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Didn't Clements also say - " Religion has filled more graveyards and

asylums than anything else in history " ?

--- In texasems-l , " Bledsoe, DO " > But, being the

simple-minded fellow I am, I have determined that the solution to any

philosophical or epistemological can be found in the writings of either Mark

Twain or Jimmy Buffett.

" The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but

because he loves what is behind him. " - GK Chesterton

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My question was about whether creationism should be a part of paramedic

instruction based upon 2 of 6 reviews I received on a chapter in progress.

Textbooks should be secular and mine will be. The thread degraded to

religion. I am disappointed to see that your heart is filled with such

hatred simply based upon whose God one chooses to worship. As an EMT, will

you treat a Jew different than a Muslim? Do you treat infidels? How would

you treat a United States soldier who killed a Muslim in Iraq? Who said that

Jews are Europe's unwanted? Hitler? The Sunni and the Shia were not fighting

before the US invasion because they were too busy killing Kurds. The Muslims

of India now have Pakistan and just a few years ago India and Pakistan was

in a standoff. Culturally, I was raised a Roman Catholic. Some of my best

friends are Jewish. I too have friends who are Muslim and Hindu and atheist.

I don't see them for their religion, I see them for their humanity and that

is as it should be. Today, I am more secular. Religion is important in

guiding society's behavior. But, it has spilled more blood than all wars

combined and the moderators will soon put a stop to this thread (as they

should).

This clip from Al-Jazeera is revealing:

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214 & ar=1050wmv & ak=null

Re: Loaded Question

Dr. Bledsoe, if you are sincere about knowing the answer, email me

personally at shah_emt@.... I have been told before that this

forum is not the place to discuss religion.

F.Y.I. Muslims and Jews were living peacfully till you know who

decided to kick Muslims out of Jerusalem to accomodate europe's unwanted.

There was no single Sunni-Shia riot in Iraq till you know who arrived

at the scene.

Under Muslim rulers of India, Hindus were a protected sister community

for 200 yrs till the British arrived and found it profitable to make

Muslims and Hindus hate each other.

Anyone else who has more questions is invited on March 25, 2:00 p.m.

to an open house at 8830 Old Galveston Road (Hwy 3), 77034, ph:

.

OR

An Interfaith Education Forum on Freedom of speech vs. religion in

cooperation with the Interfaith Ministries, the Boniuk Center for the

Study and Advancement of Religious Tolerance, and the Houston Rabbinic

Association,a panel discussion in Rice University's Herring Hall, Room

100 on Tues March 21 @ 0700 p.m.

Now I have opened a can of worms for sure.

Shahla Wahid EMT

>

> Would it not be a better world if Jew and Muslim could live

side-by-side in

> harmony? Can Christians not peacefully co-exist with Pagans? Why must

> Shiites kill Sunnis and vice-versa? The Roman Catholic Church of my

youth

> was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Crusades. Hitler

killed

> millions of Jews because he did not like their religion.

>

> Why is it that some humans feel they must share their religion with

others?

> Is it because they are searching for reassurance that their beliefs are

> real? How many of you get excited when you see two Mormon kids, on

their

> requisite mission, wearing a white shirt and tie pushing their

bicycles up

> the driveway? Do you invite them in for tea and crumpets (or beer and

> barbecue) or don't answer the door and pretend you are away? I have

never

> had two Jews come down my driveway and invite me to temple or offer a

> discount circumcision.

>

> One of the beauties of true science fiction literature is that people

> peacefully co-exist together. No religions, no poverty, no

discrimination.

> Perhaps I am too much of a geek.

>

> But, being the simple-minded fellow I am, I have determined that the

> solution to any philosophical or epistemological can be found in the

> writings of either Mark Twain or Jimmy Buffett.

>

> " Where's the church, who took the steeple?

> Religion's in the hands of some crazy-ass people,

> Television preachers with bad hair and dimples,

> The God's honest truth is it's not that simple.

>

> It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me

> It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?

> It's that born again look, it's the WASP and the Jew

> Tell me what's goin on, I ain't got a clue. "

>

> Jimmy Buffett

>

> " I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception

can ever

> be religious--except he purposely shut the eyes of his mind and keep

them

> shut by force. "

> Mark Twain

>

> " If Christ were here now, there is one thing he would not be--A

Christian. "

> Mark Twain

>

> " Mosques and churches are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and

> whisky are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their

> natural instincts do not permit them to be moral. "

> Mark Twain

>

> " When I asked him [Tom Sawyer] what a Muslim was, he said it was a

person

> who was not a Presbyterian. So there is plenty of them in Missouri,

though I

> didn't know it before. "

> Mark Twain

>

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Dr. Bledsoe, if you are sincere about knowing the answer, email me

personally at shah_emt <<snip>>

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The most important caveat of all: Trust all who seek the truth; doubt

all who claim to hold it.

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Dear DO,

By getting personal and attacking my integrity as a professional you

have done nothing but reveal your own intensity of negative feelings

and emotions. I hope you are feeling better. Don't throw a clot on

this list. We can't save you here.

Shahla

> >

> > Would it not be a better world if Jew and Muslim could live

> side-by-side in

> > harmony? Can Christians not peacefully co-exist with Pagans? Why

must

> > Shiites kill Sunnis and vice-versa? The Roman Catholic Church of my

> youth

> > was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Crusades. Hitler

> killed

> > millions of Jews because he did not like their religion.

> >

> > Why is it that some humans feel they must share their religion with

> others?

> > Is it because they are searching for reassurance that their

beliefs are

> > real? How many of you get excited when you see two Mormon kids, on

> their

> > requisite mission, wearing a white shirt and tie pushing their

> bicycles up

> > the driveway? Do you invite them in for tea and crumpets (or beer and

> > barbecue) or don't answer the door and pretend you are away? I have

> never

> > had two Jews come down my driveway and invite me to temple or offer a

> > discount circumcision.

> >

> > One of the beauties of true science fiction literature is that people

> > peacefully co-exist together. No religions, no poverty, no

> discrimination.

> > Perhaps I am too much of a geek.

> >

> > But, being the simple-minded fellow I am, I have determined that the

> > solution to any philosophical or epistemological can be found in the

> > writings of either Mark Twain or Jimmy Buffett.

> >

> > " Where's the church, who took the steeple?

> > Religion's in the hands of some crazy-ass people,

> > Television preachers with bad hair and dimples,

> > The God's honest truth is it's not that simple.

> >

> > It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me

> > It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?

> > It's that born again look, it's the WASP and the Jew

> > Tell me what's goin on, I ain't got a clue. "

> >

> > Jimmy Buffett

> >

> > " I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception

> can ever

> > be religious--except he purposely shut the eyes of his mind and keep

> them

> > shut by force. "

> > Mark Twain

> >

> > " If Christ were here now, there is one thing he would not be--A

> Christian. "

> > Mark Twain

> >

> > " Mosques and churches are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but

morals and

> > whisky are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink.

Their

> > natural instincts do not permit them to be moral. "

> > Mark Twain

> >

> > " When I asked him [Tom Sawyer] what a Muslim was, he said it was a

> person

> > who was not a Presbyterian. So there is plenty of them in Missouri,

> though I

> > didn't know it before. "

> > Mark Twain

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The reply reiterated below is a nifty little lesson in compound

rhetorical fallcy, for any phlosophy students out there (formal or

avocational) . . . it works like this:

The writer engages in an ad hominem fallacy by accusing the

correspondent of engaging in ad hominem! What a twist, eh? The ad

hominem fallacy is where the persons waging the argument avoids the

substance (called the ad rem component--the facts and stuff) but

attacks instead the motive or character of the person against whom

they wage their quarrel. Problem is, of course, that scoundrels and

morons sometimes advance valid arguments despite their character and

limitations, while saints and seers sometimes advance drivel despite

their insight and genius.

asks questions and cites facts--they might not protray Shalah

as SHalah would like, but they're facts and observations. Shalah

doesn't address or contest these, but accueses of ad homnem

attack and offers how he should be ashamed. Meanwhile, if you're

keeping score as one would in a formal debate of a boxing match,

landed several body blows while Sgalah ducked and clung to the

ropes.

> > >

> > > Would it not be a better world if Jew and Muslim could live

> > side-by-side in

> > > harmony? Can Christians not peacefully co-exist with Pagans?

Why

> must

> > > Shiites kill Sunnis and vice-versa? The Roman Catholic Church

of my

> > youth

> > > was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Crusades.

Hitler

> > killed

> > > millions of Jews because he did not like their religion.

> > >

> > > Why is it that some humans feel they must share their religion

with

> > others?

> > > Is it because they are searching for reassurance that their

> beliefs are

> > > real? How many of you get excited when you see two Mormon

kids, on

> > their

> > > requisite mission, wearing a white shirt and tie pushing their

> > bicycles up

> > > the driveway? Do you invite them in for tea and crumpets (or

beer and

> > > barbecue) or don't answer the door and pretend you are away?

I have

> > never

> > > had two Jews come down my driveway and invite me to temple or

offer a

> > > discount circumcision.

> > >

> > > One of the beauties of true science fiction literature is that

people

> > > peacefully co-exist together. No religions, no poverty, no

> > discrimination.

> > > Perhaps I am too much of a geek.

> > >

> > > But, being the simple-minded fellow I am, I have determined

that the

> > > solution to any philosophical or epistemological can be found

in the

> > > writings of either Mark Twain or Jimmy Buffett.

> > >

> > > " Where's the church, who took the steeple?

> > > Religion's in the hands of some crazy-ass people,

> > > Television preachers with bad hair and dimples,

> > > The God's honest truth is it's not that simple.

> > >

> > > It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me

> > > It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?

> > > It's that born again look, it's the WASP and the Jew

> > > Tell me what's goin on, I ain't got a clue. "

> > >

> > > Jimmy Buffett

> > >

> > > " I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous

perception

> > can ever

> > > be religious--except he purposely shut the eyes of his mind

and keep

> > them

> > > shut by force. "

> > > Mark Twain

> > >

> > > " If Christ were here now, there is one thing he would not be--A

> > Christian. "

> > > Mark Twain

> > >

> > > " Mosques and churches are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but

> morals and

> > > whisky are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to

drink.

> Their

> > > natural instincts do not permit them to be moral. "

> > > Mark Twain

> > >

> > > " When I asked him [Tom Sawyer] what a Muslim was, he said it

was a

> > person

> > > who was not a Presbyterian. So there is plenty of them in

Missouri,

> > though I

> > > didn't know it before. "

> > > Mark Twain

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Docgist wrote:

> The reply reiterated below is a nifty little lesson......

Right on target, sir, but to what avail? Folks who thump tomes almost

never listen to reason. That has been my experience.

This line of discussion seldom goes anywhere but the gutter. It started

as something else and morphed into a debate over who had the bigger,

badder dog. Time to drop it and move on.

Larry

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