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Can your heart be in NSR while having fluttering that last for just a few

seconds and only happens every 45 minutes? The fluttering is not a constant and

does not last very long...but it does scare me. I will normally feel a few

seconds of fluttering every few days, but today it is more often. I am so new to

afib that I am not sure what is what. I only I had one episode of afib and that

was in Oct. '05 and after 7 hours I went back in NSR with the only help being

and IV of Cardizem. I now take Cardizem I suppose for rate control...it does

keep my heart rate down. Is the rate control suppose to keep the heart rate down

so when someone has the fluttering the heart rate doesn't rise and knock someone

out of NSR? Any help is greatly appreciated. I am pretty scared about the

prospect of a second afib attack. I am on an extremely healthy diet and avoid

all things that may trigger afib...other than stress which we all have and must

deal with. Thanks all!

Rob

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Hi Rob - you could be having very short runs of sinus tachycardia... essentially

a regular, but fast heart beat... anything over 100 bpm is considered tachy. I

have these occassionally.. generally for just a few seconds and then they are

gone. They do not necessarily lead to afib, and as a matter of fact, several

times just prior to converting to NSR I'll go into sinus tach at fast heart rate

(130+) and then magically convert to NSR at a normal rate!

I have also had aflutter (or so I've been told), but I don't think I could

tell you specifically what that felt like.. I can tell when I'm in sinus tach,

and when I'm in afib, though...

you can also have a short series of premature atrial contractions.. that

sometimes feels like " fluttering " or premature ventrical contractions.. also

feels like fluttering,... they are usually just a beat or two in a row, although

some people have multiples in a row, which obviously leads to a longer

sensation. PACs are harmless and they say almost everyone experiences them from

time to time.

As for heart rate drugs... part of the idea behind them is that a slower heart

is less likely to fibb, and if it does fibb, then the afib will be slower. This

may hold true for some people, and some others not.

Hope this helps!

Stef

Rob Page thepagecrew@...> wrote:

Can your heart be in NSR while having fluttering that last for just a few

seconds and only happens every 45 minutes? The fluttering is not a constant and

does not last very long...but it does scare me. I will normally feel a few

seconds of fluttering every few days, but today it is more often. I am so new to

afib that I am not sure what is what. I only I had one episode of afib and that

was in Oct. '05 and after 7 hours I went back in NSR with the only help being

and IV of Cardizem. I now take Cardizem I suppose for rate control...it does

keep my heart rate down. Is the rate control suppose to keep the heart rate down

so when someone has the fluttering the heart rate doesn't rise and knock someone

out of NSR? Any help is greatly appreciated. I am pretty scared about the

prospect of a second afib attack. I am on an extremely healthy diet and avoid

all things that may trigger afib...other than stress which we all have and must

deal with. Thanks all!

Rob

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Could very easily just be occasional fluttering. But, if you're worried,

call your doctor and ask.

Flutter ?

Can your heart be in NSR while having fluttering that last for just a few

seconds and only happens every 45 minutes? The fluttering is not a constant

and does not last very long...but it does scare me. I will normally feel a

few seconds of fluttering every few days, but today it is more often. I am

so new to afib that I am not sure what is what. I only I had one episode of

afib and that was in Oct. '05 and after 7 hours I went back in NSR with the

only help being and IV of Cardizem. I now take Cardizem I suppose for rate

control...it does keep my heart rate down. Is the rate control suppose to

keep the heart rate down so when someone has the fluttering the heart rate

doesn't rise and knock someone out of NSR? Any help is greatly appreciated.

I am pretty scared about the prospect of a second afib attack. I am on an

extremely healthy diet and avoid all things that may trigger afib...other

than stress which we all have and must deal with. Thanks all!

Rob

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Thanks...

Yeah, I called the doc's office around noon and a nurse said she would talk to

the doc and give me a call back....it is now 5 and the office is closed. No call

back...guess that is their way of saying...not a big deal...suck it up :-)

Rob

Moskowitz boo6@...> wrote:

Could very easily just be occasional fluttering. But, if you're worried,

call your doctor and ask.

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Seems like there are too many uncaring doctors around. Well, my next bit of

advice is to do what makes you feel good in the meantime, maybe even look

around for a more caring doc, and call back in two days if you haven't heard

from him.

RE: Flutter ?

Thanks...

Yeah, I called the doc's office around noon and a nurse said she would

talk to the doc and give me a call back....it is now 5 and the office is

closed. No call back...guess that is their way of saying...not a big

deal...suck it up :-)

Rob

Moskowitz boo6@...> wrote:

Could very easily just be occasional fluttering. But, if you're worried,

call your doctor and ask.

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calling at noon and expecting a same day call back for a non-emergency is

actually asking quite a bit, and likely has no reference on the doctor, or how

he/she feels about the patient. If the pattern is chronic, then I'd say,

yes... find a new doctor, but if it's just once, I'd likely just assume that the

schedule and other patients simply didn't allow time.. or perhaps the nurse

didn't get a chance to talk to him/her until late in the day... etc.

I find that a good time to talk to the cardio, if I'm willing to talk to

anyone in the group, is to call the service at night (evening)... you might

have to wait a bit for a call back, but when the doctor on call finds out that

all they have to do is talk to you, and not get in the car and go to the ER,

they'll probably be more than happy to do so! I never abuse this system, and

for my own self I'm usually in afib when I call, but I also don't hesitate to

call if I think there is a problem.

You can call the service and say that you are concerned and explain that you

had called earlier and asked for a call back today that you didn't get.

Stef

Moskowitz boo6@...> wrote:

Seems like there are too many uncaring doctors around. Well, my next bit of

advice is to do what makes you feel good in the meantime, maybe even look

around for a more caring doc, and call back in two days if you haven't heard

from him.

RE: Flutter ?

Thanks...

Yeah, I called the doc's office around noon and a nurse said she would

talk to the doc and give me a call back....it is now 5 and the office is

closed. No call back...guess that is their way of saying...not a big

deal...suck it up :-)

Rob

Moskowitz boo6@...> wrote:

Could very easily just be occasional fluttering. But, if you're worried,

call your doctor and ask.

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No, I did not expect the doctor to jump, drop all her patients and call me...but

the nurse who answered the phone said the doctor was standing right by her so

she would talk to her and call me back with the doctors recommendation. I have

never called before about anything and perhaps to her my situation was a

non-emergency, but to me being rather new to afib I would like to know that if I

have a concern there is someone who can take a couple minutes of their time to

discuss it with me.

Rob

Quarter Acre Orchids quarteracreorchids@...> wrote:

calling at noon and expecting a same day call back for a non-emergency is

actually asking quite a bit, and likely has no reference on the doctor, or how

he/she feels about the patient. If the pattern is chronic, then I'd say,

yes... find a new doctor, but if it's just once, I'd likely just assume that the

schedule and other patients simply didn't allow time.. or perhaps the nurse

didn't get a chance to talk to him/her until late in the day... etc.

I find that a good time to talk to the cardio, if I'm willing to talk to

anyone in the group, is to call the service at night (evening)... you might

have to wait a bit for a call back, but when the doctor on call finds out that

all they have to do is talk to you, and not get in the car and go to the ER,

they'll probably be more than happy to do so! I never abuse this system, and

for my own self I'm usually in afib when I call, but I also don't hesitate to

call if I think there is a problem.

You can call the service and say that you are concerned and explain that you

had called earlier and asked for a call back today that you didn't get.

Stef

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> calling at noon and expecting a same day call back for a non-

emergency is actually asking quite a bit, and likely has no reference

on the doctor, or how he/she feels about the patient. If the

pattern is chronic, then I'd say, yes... find a new doctor, but if

it's just once, I'd likely just assume that the schedule and other

patients simply didn't allow time.. or perhaps the nurse didn't get a

chance to talk to him/her until late in the day... etc.

>

> I find that a good time to talk to the cardio, if I'm willing to

talk to anyone in the group, is to call the service at night

(evening)... you might have to wait a bit for a call back, but when

the doctor on call finds out that all they have to do is talk to you,

and not get in the car and go to the ER, they'll probably be more

than happy to do so! I never abuse this system, and for my own

self I'm usually in afib when I call, but I also don't hesitate to

call if I think there is a problem.

>

> You can call the service and say that you are concerned and

explain that you had called earlier and asked for a call back today

that you didn't get.

>

> Stef

>

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