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Hi all...

Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a question...being rather

new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct. '05 while having a 7 hour episode...I have

not had a repeat since...right now my wife and our children all have the flu...I

know it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am afraid that when

the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to have afib trouble more

often when you are sick? I know not to take any over the counter meds because

those can do some crazy things to afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate

being out of NSR much much more.

Rob

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Rob - your best defense is to wash your hand all the time, to avoid kissing

family members during their incubation period (which sounds like it's past), and

to stay enormously hydrated now and if you happen to get the bug. Eat a

healthy diet and get regular exercise also helps keep your body in overall good

shape.... and of course, try to avoid stressful situations.. whether stressful

in a bad way, or stressful in a good way.. .and get plenty of sleep... all

things good for a body are probably your best defense without medication.

I, personally, take Alkazelzer (how do you spell that?) Cold and Flu and I

don't notice that it speeds me up at all... I'm pretty sensitive to things like

antihistamines, and I don't know if this one has them, but it doesn't seem to

affect me at all. It's my cold drug of choice these days, and it seems to talk

almost nothing to trigger me these days.

Stef

Rob Page thepagecrew@...> wrote:

Hi all...

Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a question...being rather

new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct. '05 while having a 7 hour episode...I have

not had a repeat since...right now my wife and our children all have the flu...I

know it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am afraid that when

the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to have afib trouble more

often when you are sick? I know not to take any over the counter meds because

those can do some crazy things to afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate

being out of NSR much much more.

Rob

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Hi Rob

I believe any other illness, including flu is likely to make AF

worse temporarily at least. I have got a nasty cold and have already

noticed worse AF. I think the answer is to take extra care of

yourself, get plenty of rest and large doses of powdered vitamin C.

I have found this helps a lot with symptoms. If you start the vit c

now, you may even avert the flu altogether.

Hope the missus and kids are better soon.

Regards Sue

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> Hi all...

>

> Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a

question...being rather new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct. '05

while having a 7 hour episode...I have not had a repeat

since...right now my wife and our children all have the flu...I know

it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am afraid that

when the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to have

afib trouble more often when you are sick? I know not to take any

over the counter meds because those can do some crazy things to

afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate being out of NSR much

much more.

>

> Rob

>

>

>

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Thanks everyone,

I am hoping that the healthy eating and vitamin regimine I have been doing for

the last few months will help me out with this and the flu will pass me

over...that would be a first :-)

susan andrews somniacismyname@...> wrote:

Hi Rob

I believe any other illness, including flu is likely to make AF

worse temporarily at least. I have got a nasty cold and have already

noticed worse AF. I think the answer is to take extra care of

yourself, get plenty of rest and large doses of powdered vitamin C.

I have found this helps a lot with symptoms. If you start the vit c

now, you may even avert the flu altogether.

Hope the missus and kids are better soon.

Regards Sue

>

> Hi all...

>

> Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a

question...being rather new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct. '05

while having a 7 hour episode...I have not had a repeat

since...right now my wife and our children all have the flu...I know

it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am afraid that

when the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to have

afib trouble more often when you are sick? I know not to take any

over the counter meds because those can do some crazy things to

afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate being out of NSR much

much more.

>

> Rob

>

>

>

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I had a cold coming on last week and know all too well the

problems with cold meds. I went to the vitamin store looking

for some " homeopathic " pills that someone recommended. I

asked the clerk what was the best one and he said if you

want something that really works try this

http://www.quantumherbalproducts.com/Catalog/herbs.cgi/1015

All cold symptoms were gone in 2 days and no unusual effects

as far as rhythm goes. I find it hard to believe that I'm

recommending an herbal elixir but it did seem to be

effective.

DS

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> Hi all...

>

> Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a

question...being rather new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct.

'05

while having a 7 hour episode...I have not had a repeat

since...right now my wife and our children all have the

flu...I know

it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am

afraid that

when the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to

have

afib trouble more often when you are sick? I know not to

take any

over the counter meds because those can do some crazy things

to

afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate being out of

NSR much

much more.

>

> Rob

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Hi Rob and Sue,

I am at the tail end of a cold, and have had a definite increase in

AF in the latter part of the illness. The first few days I felt

pretty good in spite of a sore throat and runny nose but around the

time it moved into my chest, on the fourth day, I began feeling more

tired, achy and fatigued. I had a couple of mini-episodes of under a

minute each that day. The next day and every other day since, I've

had one or two bouts lasting 1.75 to 6 hours. I seem to ache less and

my heart feels a bit more stable today, so am hopeful that things

will improve now.

The pattern of AF during my cold seems to correlate well with my

body's inflammatory reaction to the cold virus. Once the immune

system is fired up and fighting hard, some of the inflammatory

factors, interlukins, cytokines, lukotrienes, etc must effect the

heart. When your body is aching isn't it likely that the muscles you

don't feel are also inflamed?

I've been reading 's recommended books, " The China Study " by

and " Stop Inflammation Now " by Fleming. The inflammatory

theory of AF makes a lot of sense to me, and I am modifying my diet

accordingly. It was upsetting to have several AF episodes only a week

after significantly changing my diet toward one designed to limit

inflammation, so I'm pleased that I can connect my current woes to

the cold. The week before I came down with it was very good. Now I

hope I will get back on track again as the cold passes.

Has anyone else noticed an association between either a cold or the

flu (viral infections) and worsened AF?

Hartshorn

On 9 Jan 2006 at 12:05, rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by sy wrote:

Hi Rob

I believe any other illness, including flu is likely to make AF

worse temporarily at least. I have got a nasty cold and have already

noticed worse AF. I think the answer is to take extra care of

yourself, get plenty of rest and large doses of powdered vitamin C.

I have found this helps a lot with symptoms. If you start the vit c

now, you may even avert the flu altogether.

Hope the missus and kids are better soon.

Regards Sue

>

> Hi all...

>

> Hope this new year has been kind to you all. I have a

question...being rather new to afib, I was diagnosed in Oct. '05

while having a 7 hour episode...I have not had a repeat

since...right now my wife and our children all have the flu...I know

it is only a matter of time before it is my turn...I am afraid that

when the flu kicks in so will the afib...do you all seem to have

afib trouble more often when you are sick? I know not to take any

over the counter meds because those can do some crazy things to

afibbers. As much as I hate the flu...I hate being out of NSR much

much more.

>

> Rob

>

>

>

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> Hi Rob and Sue,

>

> I am at the tail end of a cold,

SNIP

Has anyone else noticed an association between either a cold or the

> flu (viral infections) and worsened AF?

>

> Hartshorn

>

All severe illnesses put strain on the heart. It is vital to take

exceptional care as soon as you get an illness .The drugs are a

separate risk and I personally am very reluctant to medicate after

earlier difficulties.

The flu virus invades trillion of cells and divert them to their

purpose. (making more virus)

Fever is like the sauna, which can trigger AF so try not to challenge

it more than absolutely necessary.

In addition to the above the inflammatory responses of the body can be

a further problem. These co-factors make illness a high-risk time for

Af. I personally went to persistent AF in a bacterial illness (that

lasted three weeks)

Do not exercise (work out) until you are fully recovered.

My personal advice to you all, is as you think the risk of illness is

immanent (a few months is better) go to a highly alkaline diet.

(mostly veg. and fruit with some RAW) Do not consume dairy and

preferably no meat (mucous forming )

NSR nearly three years Whole Food Lifestyle

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