Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 If one is both a nurse and a paramedic, and the facts warrant pulling the medic's certificate, the same facts might indeed be acted upon by the Board of Nursing. However, they do not automatically know or find out about a disciplinary action taken by another agency. Generally they act on complaints filed. So if you think a person is dangerous, file a complaint with the Board of Nurse Examiners. Gene G. > > Can anyone tell me if there is any way to cross reference a person > that say is not only a medic but also a R.N.? I have heard in other > states about a respiratory therapist that flubbed up majorly and was > released from his job and would never be able to work as a therapist > again, but was still working as a medic. I suppose I'm asking this > question now because I know of a few folks that have been or are on > suspension with EMS from the state but are still working in the > medical field under their other title. > > Is there not any way to check up on both? I mean if you are > suspended from being a medic because of say pt. neglect then why > would we want this person working as a nurse? Or if they have had > their certification removed in EMS again why would I want them > working in the medical field still but under a different title? Or > it could be the other way around, if they have their initials > stripped from them in a different part of medical field why would I > want them being able to work as a medic? Just because you change > titles doesn't mean the person has changed. > > Anyway before I get any farther up on the soap box, if any one has > any information about this please let me know. And if there isn't > one Heaven Help Us because their needs to be. > > Sincerely, > > > > > > ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 It isn't that I currently know anyone that I think is dangerous, but finding out about their situations got me to thinking. I know both DSHS and BNE both run off complaints but why isn't their something set up for them to cross reference? I can see some complaining that they where using their nursing or medic but if it is a legit. complaint and one or the other feels the need to decertify or suspend why shouldn't it roll over? The example I gave about the R.T. and the other state for example, the R.T. was pocketing medications. He was released of his position and never allowed to work as an R.T. again. But yet he went to work using his Paramedic and was put in a position where he was over ordering medications and stock for the trucks. Granted I know that not all folks are like this, but their are some out there. Why in this day and age have the authorities not set up some type of system where they can see who is dually certified and what type of reprimands they have? It only makes sense to me but then again I'm just a common small town hick.....lol > > If one is both a nurse and a paramedic, and the facts warrant pulling the > medic's certificate, the same facts might indeed be acted upon by the Board of > Nursing. However, they do not automatically know or find out about a > disciplinary action taken by another agency. Generally they act on complaints filed. > So if you think a person is dangerous, file a complaint with the Board of > Nurse Examiners. > > Gene G. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 It OUGHT to be quite simple to cross-notify related agencies of disciplinary actions by one or another given the communications capabilities we have, but it is not for government agencies. Probably any private company of any size could accomplish the technology, but our government still cannot construct a computer system for the FBI that works; the space shuttles use 40 year old hardware and software, and the " virtual fence " that's supposed to be built along the Arizona/Mexican border doesn't work. (Note: Boeing is the contractor, so perhaps I spoke rashly about the capabilities of private concerns). Homeland INsecurity cannot yet figure out how to send messages to its regional offices. Of course, governments have better things to do like debating whether parents can legally spank their children or deciding whether or not we should brand the Armenian slaughter in 1914 as " genocide. " Pressing matters, both. The pressing matter here in AZ today is whether or not organic foods are more nutritious than non-organic foods. I'm deep in research on that one myself (he said while eating a Burger King Whopper). Gene G. > > , > >  > > If it is within a single agency (say DSHS) then it would cross reference. > If not, then trying to figure out how and where to cross-reference everything > would be a killer. It makes sense between RN and paramedic... If it is > within a single agency (say DSHS) then it would cross reference. If not, then > trying to figure out how and where to cross-reference everything would be a > killer. It ma If it is within a single agency (say DSHS) then it would cross > reference. If not, then trying t If it is within a single agency (say DSHS) > then it would cross reference. If not, then trying to figure out how and where > to cross-reference everything would > >  > > The logistics of reporting each violation to each and every licensing board > in Texas would be daunting and almost impossible from a record retention > standpoint.. The logistics of reporting each violation to each and every > licensing board in > >  > > Dudley > > Re: Cross referencing > > It isn't that I currently know anyone that I think is dangerous, but > > finding out about their situations got me to thinking. I know both > > DSHS and BNE both run off complaints but why isn't their something > > set up for them to cross reference? > > I can see some complaining that they where using their nursing or > > medic but if it is a legit. complaint and one or the other feels the > > need to decertify or suspend why shouldn't it roll over? The example > > I gave about the R.T. and the other state for example, the R.T. was > > pocketing medications. He was released of his position and never > > allowed to work as an R.T. again. But yet he went to work using his > > Paramedic and was put in a position where he was over ordering > > medications and stock for the trucks. > > Granted I know that not all folks are like this, but their are some > > out there. Why in this day and age have the authorities not set up > > some type of system where they can see who is dually certified and > > what type of reprimands they have? > > It only makes sense to me but then again I'm just a common small > > town hick.....lol > > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem, wegandy1938@, wegandy1 > > > > > > If one is both a nurse and a paramedic, and the facts warrant > > pulling the > > > medic's certificate, the same facts might indeed be acted upon by > > the Board of > > > Nursing. However, they do not automatically know or find out > > about a > > > disciplinary action taken by another agency. Generally they act > > on complaints filed. > > > So if you think a person is dangerous, file a complaint with the > > Board of > > > Nurse Examiners. > > > > > > Gene G. > > > In a message dated 12/1/07 11:13:03 AM, rookie_sis@. In a mess > > #AOLMsgPart_ #AOLMsgPar #AOLMsgPa #AOLMsgPart_<wb # > > #AOLMsgPart_ #AOLMsgPar #AOLMsgPa #AOLMsgPart_<wb # > > #AOLMsgPart_ #AOLMsgPar #AOLMsgPa #AOLMsgPart_<wb # > > ____________ ________ ________ ________ ________ ________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://o.aolcdn.http://o.aolcdn.http://o.aolcdn.http://o.aohttp://o.http://o.aol\ cdn.http://o. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ,  If it is within a single agency (say DSHS) then it would cross reference. If not, then trying to figure out how and where to cross-reference everything would be a killer. It makes sense between RN and paramedic....but it would be difficult for both to cross-reference when a fairly small percentage (my guess) of each agencies registrants are both...and your example of an RT and Paramedic...what about a PA or a Police Officer or a Fire Fighter or a plumber or electrician or contractor...there comes a point in time where agencies have to be held responsible for doing the right thing...or rules need to be made to require it...across the board.  The logistics of reporting each violation to each and every licensing board in Texas would be daunting and almost impossible from a record retention standpoint...at least that is my opinion. Would be nice, but I just don't see it happening.  Dudley Re: Cross referencing It isn't that I currently know anyone that I think is dangerous, but finding out about their situations got me to thinking. I know both DSHS and BNE both run off complaints but why isn't their something set up for them to cross reference? I can see some complaining that they where using their nursing or medic but if it is a legit. complaint and one or the other feels the need to decertify or suspend why shouldn't it roll over? The example I gave about the R.T. and the other state for example, the R.T. was pocketing medications. He was released of his position and never allowed to work as an R.T. again. But yet he went to work using his Paramedic and was put in a position where he was over ordering medications and stock for the trucks. Granted I know that not all folks are like this, but their are some out there. Why in this day and age have the authorities not set up some type of system where they can see who is dually certified and what type of reprimands they have? It only makes sense to me but then again I'm just a common small town hick.....lol > > If one is both a nurse and a paramedic, and the facts warrant pulling the > medic's certificate, the same facts might indeed be acted upon by the Board of > Nursing. However, they do not automatically know or find out about a > disciplinary action taken by another agency. Generally they act on complaints filed. > So if you think a person is dangerous, file a complaint with the Board of > Nurse Examiners. > > Gene G. > #AOLMsgPart_2_8abc0aa6-b31a-485a-abcf-77b2091d61de #AOLMsgPart_2_8abc0aa6-b31a-485a-abcf-77b2091d61de #AOLMsgPart_2_8abc0aa6-b31a-485a-abcf-77b2091d61de ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp0\ 0050000000003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 In a message dated 03-Dec-07 00:55:03 Central Standard Time, wegandy1938@... writes: the space shuttles use 40 year old hardware and software ummm...Gene, there is a practical reason why the shuttle electronics haven't been upgraded...and still use 286 class technology... (hmmm....can't call them Avionics (AVIation electrONICS)....Spatronics, maybe?) simply put, anything much denser than a 286 chip is so sensitive to damage as to be almost impossible to harden against random cosmic ray damage... ck S. Krin, DO FAAFP **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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