Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I really should not have been too surprised about this. I have had little if any work since the docs did their job action. When they came back to work it was for 1 day only and then many of them had a long weekend of 4 days due to the snow storms/blizzards. They were back one day and my doc went to a convention in Fla on Ankles. She came back last Wed and has been out with no voice until yesterday. I have had all of 4 minutes of dictation in one month. I I went into my folders and found the give and take between Jay and and will now study that. I can't believe what is happening. Her practice is small enough as it is. She lost yet another sec. last Friday. I will do a lot of praying. Aliceanne At 06:31 PM 3/4/2003 -0500, Alice Sawyer wrote: >I called her home and left the messages you guys gave me. She had said she >would think about it when I left her at the office so I thought if I could >get a head start with pros and cons I might have a chance. She does have a >computer at home but what scares me is this new boyfriend of hers IS >computer savy and electronically unchallenged. He will see her through >it. She does not keep office staff so who knows if he will stay around. >She mentioned he had an Olympus so I asked on her home machine what >model. I will try to see what I am going to need here. I have never worked >with wav pedals, I don't think. I did work for a short time for a national >(DTS) but did not stay because I could not say when I was going to be able >to work with mom's problems and I did have a pedal but I have no idea if >that was a wav pedal. I am just as computer illiterate as she but she has a >good side kick who can help her through it. I can't spend that much. I was >hoping I could get by with express scribe or hypersend. I will just have >to keep researching. I sure wish there was a cyberspace class on this stuff. >Aliceanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 If I used Hypersend, I would still have to pick up the dictation so this would not solve the digital dictation. Is there such a thing as a digital transcriber? Aliceanne At 06:50 PM 3/4/2003 -0500, Alice Sawyer wrote: >I really should not have been too surprised about this. I have had little >if any work since the docs did their job action. When they came back to >work it was for 1 day only and then many of them had a long weekend of 4 >days due to the snow storms/blizzards. They were back one day and my doc >went to a convention in Fla on Ankles. She came back last Wed and has been >out with no voice until yesterday. I have had all of 4 minutes of dictation >in one month. I >I went into my folders and found the give and take between Jay and >and will now study that. I can't believe what is happening. Her practice >is small enough as it is. She lost yet another sec. last Friday. >I will do a lot of praying. >Aliceanne > >At 06:31 PM 3/4/2003 -0500, Alice Sawyer wrote: > >I called her home and left the messages you guys gave me. She had said she > >would think about it when I left her at the office so I thought if I could > >get a head start with pros and cons I might have a chance. She does have a > >computer at home but what scares me is this new boyfriend of hers IS > >computer savy and electronically unchallenged. He will see her through > >it. She does not keep office staff so who knows if he will stay around. > >She mentioned he had an Olympus so I asked on her home machine what > >model. I will try to see what I am going to need here. I have never worked > >with wav pedals, I don't think. I did work for a short time for a national > >(DTS) but did not stay because I could not say when I was going to be able > >to work with mom's problems and I did have a pedal but I have no idea if > >that was a wav pedal. I am just as computer illiterate as she but she has a > >good side kick who can help her through it. I can't spend that much. I was > >hoping I could get by with express scribe or hypersend. I will just have > >to keep researching. I sure wish there was a cyberspace class on this > stuff. > >Aliceanne > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thanks to all my friends on here for their support about my nada's passing. This has certainly been a roller coaster for me these last two years with her in particular, but now that is past me and over of course. The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada has left with nothing in order financially so I have NO idea what accounts she has are still valid and can be liquidated and what accounts she canceled. Nada didn't trust ANYONE including me with any of that information and it's very difficult to get a handle on all this. I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the rest? Forget it. I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten minutes earlier; called the funeral director and after his monatone " I'm sorry for your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to me " You had said she had Prudential Life Insurance, correct? " I replied, " yes " . He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really wasn't thinking about it to tell you the truth. " He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first thing tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body away. " I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know what type of relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is still my mother. What an ass! If he weren't the least expensive funeral guy in the area, I would tell him adios jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yes, I think that is amazingly insensitive! Hugs and . . . I don't want to say congratulations . . . but I'm relieved for you that this is over. May she rest as peacefully as a BPD can. XOXO > > > Thanks to all my friends on here for their support about my nada's passing. > > This has certainly been a roller coaster for me these last two years with > her in particular, but now that is past me and over of course. > > The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada has left with > nothing in order financially so I have NO idea what accounts she has are > still valid and can be liquidated and what accounts she canceled. Nada > didn't trust ANYONE including me with any of that information and it's very > difficult to get a handle on all this. > > I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the rest? Forget it. > > I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten minutes > earlier; called the funeral director and after his monatone " I'm sorry for > your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to me " You had said she had Prudential > Life Insurance, correct? " > > I replied, " yes " . > > He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " > > I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really wasn't > thinking about it to tell you the truth. " > > He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first thing > tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body away. " > > I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know what type of > relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is still my mother. What an > ass! If he weren't the least expensive funeral guy in the area, I would tell > him adios jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 That funeral director sure sounds insensitive to me. People who can't show some compassion for those who are likely to be grieving shouldn't be in that business. Even if he knew the state of your relationship with your nada, there would still be no call for being rude and demanding the number that way. I hope you end up having less trouble straightening out your nada's affairs than you think you will. My nada changed her will several years ago to leave everything and all the responsibility to my brother. She made sure I knew about it, presumably thinking that she was punishing me. I sure won't miss having to deal with it when the time comes. At 07:15 AM 03/22/2011 Romantic Libra wrote: >Thanks to all my friends on here for their support about my >nada's passing. > >This has certainly been a roller coaster for me these last two >years with her in particular, but now that is past me and over >of course. > >The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada >has left with nothing in order financially so I have NO idea >what accounts she has are still valid and can be liquidated and >what accounts she canceled. Nada didn't trust ANYONE including >me with any of that information and it's very difficult to get >a handle on all this. > >I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the >rest? Forget it. > >I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten >minutes earlier; called the funeral director and after his >monatone " I'm sorry for your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to >me " You had said she had Prudential Life Insurance, correct? " > >I replied, " yes " . > >He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " > >I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really >wasn't thinking about it to tell you the truth. " > >He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first >thing tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body >away. " > >I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know >what type of relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is >still my mother. What an ass! If he weren't the least >expensive funeral guy in the area, I would tell him adios >jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? -- Katrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hugs for all of this... your little girl heart, you big girl brain... While the guy does seem like a dolt, consider this... he may have to legally HAVE a policy on record and accessible before he can legally take the body. There are all sorts of laws governing the $ and responsiblity of bodies in this country... while it seems crass and his timing stunk, it may be a necessary evil. For your own heart's sake, I'd cut him some slack and figure he's just doing the job you're asking him to do... even if his job is offensive and the protocal is icky... Don't choose this battle... let it slide. Lynnette > > Thanks to all my friends on here for their support about my nada's passing. > > This has certainly been a roller coaster for me these last two years with her in particular, but now that is past me and over of course. > > The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada has left with nothing in order financially so I have NO idea what accounts she has are still valid and can be liquidated and what accounts she canceled. Nada didn't trust ANYONE including me with any of that information and it's very difficult to get a handle on all this. > > I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the rest? Forget it. > > I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten minutes earlier; called the funeral director and after his monatone " I'm sorry for your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to me " You had said she had Prudential Life Insurance, correct? " > > I replied, " yes " . > > He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " > > I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really wasn't thinking about it to tell you the truth. " > > He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first thing tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body away. " > > I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know what type of relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is still my mother. What an ass! If he weren't the least expensive funeral guy in the area, I would tell him adios jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 No, no, the word I m going for is asshole. Doug > The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada has left with nothing in order financially so I have NO idea what accounts she has are still valid and can be liquidated and what accounts she canceled. Nada didn't trust ANYONE including me with any of that information and it's very difficult to get a handle on all this. > > I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the rest? Forget it. Pay absolutely NOTHING yet. Before you act on her behalf, you need to go to probate office of the circuit clerk and apply to be named the fiduciary of her estate. This gives you the legal right to sign her name, disberse her money, ect. If anyone complains about a bill she needs to pay, just quitely tell them she passed away, and they will have to wait until the estate clears. If you get all this done and start to pay people in a year, you ll have done well. So again, pay no one anything yet. Collect any mail which comes and keep it in a file folder. Do NOT go out of your way to find people she owes. It is their responsiblity to discover she died, and file claims to her estate. If there is not enough money to pay everyone, there is a formula for determining who gets what. You must post a bond to act as fiduciary for her estate. If you don t want to do so, you are free to just walk away from it and say have a ball , world. You don t hvae to. YOU are NOT responsible for paying ANY ANY ANY of her debts. As fiduciary, you are only responsible for disbersing HER money to her creditors. Keep a log and keep track of all time you spend doing this. You get paid for it, out of the estate. The number one and two creditors are you and the IRS. So, again, you cannot pay anyone until you see what taxes are. And if you pay yourself say 10 an hour for your work managing the estate, when it is gone, it is gone. As for the AH funeral director, do NOTgive him the number of the policy. Tell him you want to contact the insurance company yourself and not just leave it to him. And tell him you want a detailed account of all expenses before the funeral. They will try to soak you. You do not need a 5000 dollar casket. It is just a box that is going to go in the ground. You dont have to pay for multiple vehicles to take flowers to the cemetary and rot on the grave. You can tell them to take just what goes in with the hearse, and leave the rest. You do not have to pay him for clothing for her, you can bring something of hers. But don t just " leave everything to him. " He has not acted in such a way as to earn that trust. Show me in detail before I agree to spend it. And I will bring you the money after the funeral. Unless she put the funeral home as the beneficiary, you do not let them get the money first and then decide if you get any back. Tell him you want to read the policy and call the company before you finalize arrangements with him. Tell him , and this is true, you do NOT have to pay for a funeral. You can state mom has no money or insurance, and the county does a paupers funeral and burial. Not that you want to do that, but don t let this SOB exploite you in your current state. I went thru all this just 2 years ago, so I remember a lot of it. Let me know if you need advice. Doug God, what an incredible prick! > > I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten minutes earlier; called the funeral director and after his monatone " I'm sorry for your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to me " You had said she had Prudential Life Insurance, correct? " > > I replied, " yes " . > > He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " > > I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really wasn't thinking about it to tell you the truth. " > > He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first thing tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body away. " > > I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know what type of relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is still my mother. What an ass! If he weren't the least expensive funeral guy in the area, I would tell him adios jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thank you for sharing this information, Doug. Most of us here will be going through this situation sooner or later, so, its good to know this stuff. Invaluable, actually. I am grateful that in earlier years my nada, with Sister's help, already made all these arrangements ahead of time. My nada is nothing if she is not hyper-organized down to the last dotted " i " and crossed " t " . -Annie > > > No, no, the word I m going for is asshole. > > Doug > > > > > The only things confounding me are all the paper trails nada has left > with nothing in order financially so I have NO idea what accounts she > has are still valid and can be liquidated and what accounts she > canceled. Nada didn't trust ANYONE including me with any of that > information and it's very difficult to get a handle on all this. > > > > I have bills to pay for her which is the easy part but the rest? > Forget it. > > > > Pay absolutely NOTHING yet. Before you act on her behalf, you need to > go to probate office of the circuit clerk and apply to be named the > fiduciary of her estate. This gives you the legal right to sign her > name, disberse her money, ect. If anyone complains about a bill she > needs to pay, just quitely tell them she passed away, and they will have > to wait until the estate clears. If you get all this done and start to > pay people in a year, you ll have done well. > > So again, pay no one anything yet. > > Collect any mail which comes and keep it in a file folder. Do NOT go > out of your way to find people she owes. It is their responsiblity to > discover she died, and file claims to her estate. If there is not > enough money to pay everyone, there is a formula for determining who > gets what. > > You must post a bond to act as fiduciary for her estate. If you don t > want to do so, you are free to just walk away from it and say have a > ball , world. You don t hvae to. > > YOU are NOT responsible for paying ANY ANY ANY of her debts. As > fiduciary, you are only responsible for disbersing HER money to her > creditors. > > Keep a log and keep track of all time you spend doing this. You get > paid for it, out of the estate. The number one and two creditors are > you and the IRS. > > So, again, you cannot pay anyone until you see what taxes are. And if > you pay yourself say 10 an hour for your work managing the estate, when > it is gone, it is gone. > > As for the AH funeral director, do NOTgive him the number of the policy. > Tell him you want to contact the insurance company yourself and not just > leave it to him. And tell him you want a detailed account of all > expenses before the funeral. They will try to soak you. You do not > need a 5000 dollar casket. It is just a box that is going to go in the > ground. You dont have to pay for multiple vehicles to take flowers to > the cemetary and rot on the grave. You can tell them to take just what > goes in with the hearse, and leave the rest. > > You do not have to pay him for clothing for her, you can bring something > of hers. But don t just " leave everything to him. " He has not acted in > such a way as to earn that trust. Show me in detail before I agree to > spend it. And I will bring you the money after the funeral. Unless she > put the funeral home as the beneficiary, you do not let them get the > money first and then decide if you get any back. > > Tell him you want to read the policy and call the company before you > finalize arrangements with him. Tell him , and this is true, you do NOT > have to pay for a funeral. You can state mom has no money or insurance, > and the county does a paupers funeral and burial. Not that you want to > do that, but don t let this SOB exploite you in your current state. > > > > I went thru all this just 2 years ago, so I remember a lot of it. Let > me know if you need advice. > > Doug > > God, what an incredible prick! > > > > > > I can't believe that I had just found out that nada passed ten minutes > earlier; called the funeral director and after his monatone " I'm sorry > for your loss " , he had the GAUL to say to me " You had said she had > Prudential Life Insurance, correct? " > > > > I replied, " yes " . > > > > He THEN said, " I want the policy # now. " > > > > I said, " I got home late last night from Jersey and I really wasn't > thinking about it to tell you the truth. " > > > > He replied, " I'll give you a breather then and call you first thing > tomorrow morning for it. Of course we'll take the body away. " > > > > I thought OMG! What an insensitive baboon! He doesn't know what type > of relationship my nada and I had! Even though she is still my mother. > What an ass! If he weren't the least expensive funeral guy in the area, > I would tell him adios jerk. Any of you think he was being insensitive? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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