primal defense, was Re: Re: ...probiotics

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The last time I warned against primal defense and similar soil organism

products I could not find the references

I still can't find them all.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=278134

> Along with a book I ordered called " The IBD Remission Diet " by Jini

> Patel , came a page inserted later by the author that

> essentially withdrew her prior recommendation of Primal Defense.

> Horrified, I searched the Internet and could only find glowing

> testimonials (most of which eventually stemmed from the Garden of Life

> company's own marketing.) I could find nothing from a scientific or

> unbiased source. The inserted warning is frightening. Here it is:

>

> " On Page 108 of the IBD remission diet, I suggest that readers may

> want to try a product called Primal Defense after they've been

> completely healed for 3-5 months. I learned of this product from

> numerous readers who wrote in to let me know how well it's worked for

> them. Since I couldn't try the product myself (I've been pregnant or

> breastfeeding for four years and counting,) I questioned numerous

> respected naturopaths, microbiology professors and gastroenterologists

> for their opinion on the product and all said it looked fine.

>

> However, since meeting the founder and president of Natren Inc. (top

> quality pro-biotic manufacturer,) Natasha Trenev, I must change my

> opinion of bacterial soil organisms. Natasha is a world renowned

> expert on microorganisms and maintains one of the largest research

> libraries on that topic in the world. She has sent me an entire CD ROM

> of articles, research and clinical data and other scientific studies,

> (most done outside of North America,) outlining why it is not safe to

> consume bacterial soil organisms (like those contained in Primal

> Defense and numerous other products.)

>

> To summarize the research briefly, soil organisms (SO) are spore

> formers, so they make make good competitors for yeast, fungus and

> other pathogens. This is why so many people taking soil organisms will

> initially experience very favorable results. However these spores are

> are extremely difficult to kill, surviving sterilants, disinfectants,

> acceleration forces, heat, pressure, radiation and many antibiotics.

> Strong antibiotics -- like Vancomycin -- can suppress certain spores.

> Spores are so persistent in the intestines that another round of

> germination may occur after the the drug is stopped. Soil organisms

> can also adapt loose genetic material and incorporate it into their

> cellular structure - the ramifications of which are yet unknown.

> Various soil organisms can also produce harmful peptides, affecting

> hemoglobin in the blood. It's important to keep in mind that virtually

> all antibiotic drugs were were initially developed from soil organisms

> and as antibiotics become more potent, they cause more damage to the

> host, not just in the immediate gut environment, but systematically as

> well.

>

> In the EU (European Union) the use of soil organisms in animal feed is

> being stringently controlled and questioned at this time. There are

> simply too many questions and unknowns to sanction the use of soil

> organisms for human consumption and one can certainly cannot qualify

> them as safe at this time.

>

> I'm very sorry for any confusion this may have caused you. To be

> honest, this is the very first time I've recommended a product that

> I've not tried and tested exclusively myself -- I admit I was swayed

> by so many good recommendations from readers. Rest assured that I will

> not do so again!

>

> My sincerest apologies,

> Jini Patel

> July 2003 "

General info on probiotic sporeforming species

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1541-4337.2003.tb00017.x

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