Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Val, Last message told you the endo gave me HC 10mg. She said, 5mg 2x day. I did not start it because of wanting to do a saliva test. I received these results from the alternative doctor, Diagnos- Techs.With Cortisol levels this high, why would my endo prescribe HC and order an AM Cortisol after the fact? What do the other results indicate? Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-24 11-Noon 20 5-10 4-5pm 14 3-8 Midnight 3 1-4 DHEA 6 3-10 Note: Adapted with DHEA slump. What does this mean? Insulin Post-prandial 9 5-20 Optimal I did not get instructions for eating properly for this test at noon. Progesterone 25 22-100 Optimal Total Salivary Slg-A Borderline 21 20-25 Gliadin Ab, SlgA Negative 11 Thank you, Frannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Adapted with DHEA slump = stage 3 It is in this phase that we frequently begin to see our patients. The divergently high Cortisol levels may produce anxiety or even " panic " attacks. The high Cortisol night levels and the low DHEA levels will often create insomnia. Because of ever increasing divergence of the DHEA and Cortisol levels, the patient may experience a strange feeling unique to this state--anxiety and exhaustion simultaneously. http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%203.html New Test Results- Need Opinions & Understanding Val, Last message told you the endo gave me HC 10mg. She said, 5mg 2x day. I did not start it because of wanting to do a saliva test. I received these results from the alternative doctor, Diagnos- Techs.With Cortisol levels this high, why would my endo prescribe HC and order an AM Cortisol after the fact? What do the other results indicate? Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-24 11-Noon 20 5-10 4-5pm 14 3-8 Midnight 3 1-4 DHEA 6 3-10 Note: Adapted with DHEA slump. What does this mean? Insulin Post-prandial 9 5-20 Optimal I did not get instructions for eating properly for this test at noon. Progesterone 25 22-100 Optimal Total Salivary Slg-A Borderline 21 20-25 Gliadin Ab, SlgA Negative 11 Thank you, Frannie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Actually, " adapted with DHEA slump " is Stage 2 according to diagnos tech tests but could be either stage 2 headed toward stage 3 on the ASI index. Here is the stage 2 info: http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%202.html You test results should show you in a box that is either 2 or 3. The Physiological Effects of Stress on the Body (Stage 2) In this phase, we find the cortisol levels are continuing to rise in an effort by the body to compensate for the unending stress it is asked to undergo. However, we also find that the DHEA levels are not now keeping pace with the Cortisol levels indicating that the body is beginning to lose ground in its efforts keep up with the stress placed upon it. ACTH is not affecting the production of DHEA to the same degree that it is Cortisol. The start of trouble. New Test Results- Need Opinions & Understanding Val, Last message told you the endo gave me HC 10mg. She said, 5mg 2x day. I did not start it because of wanting to do a saliva test. I received these results from the alternative doctor, Diagnos- Techs.With Cortisol levels this high, why would my endo prescribe HC and order an AM Cortisol after the fact? What do the other results indicate? Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-24 11-Noon 20 5-10 4-5pm 14 3-8 Midnight 3 1-4 DHEA 6 3-10 Note: Adapted with DHEA slump. What does this mean? Insulin Post-prandial 9 5-20 Optimal I did not get instructions for eating properly for this test at noon. Progesterone 25 22-100 Optimal Total Salivary Slg-A Borderline 21 20-25 Gliadin Ab, SlgA Negative 11 Thank you, Frannie . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Do I need to supplement a small amount of DHEA? Possibly the supplement PS? I have a terrible infection that is probably causing part of the high Cortisol, no one has identified it or found an antidote. It seem to escalate after an infected tooth was pulled? Frannie To: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS@...: ms.squarepants@...: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:38:15 -0700Subject: RE: New Test Results- Need Opinions & Understanding Actually, " adapted with DHEA slump " is Stage 2 according to diagnos techtests but could be either stage 2 headed toward stage 3 on the ASI index.Here is the stage 2 info:http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%202.htmlYou test results should show you in a box that is either 2 or 3.The Physiological Effects of Stress on the Body(Stage 2)In this phase, we find the cortisol levels are continuing to rise in aneffort by the body to compensate for the unending stress it is asked toundergo. However, we also find that the DHEA levels are not now keeping pacewith the Cortisol levels indicating that the body is beginning to loseground in its efforts keep up with the stress placed upon it. ACTH is notaffecting the production of DHEA to the same degree that it is Cortisol. Thestart of trouble.-----Original Message-----From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRE\ NALS ]On Behalf OffrannielizoSent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:44 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS@...: New Test Results- Need Opinions & UnderstandingVal,Last message told you the endo gave me HC 10mg. She said, 5mg 2x day.I did not start it because of wanting to do a saliva test.I received these results from the alternative doctor, Diagnos-Techs.With Cortisol levels this high, why would my endo prescribe HCand order an AM Cortisol after the fact? What do the other resultsindicate?Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-2411-Noon 20 5-104-5pm 14 3-8Midnight 3 1-4DHEA 6 3-10Note: Adapted with DHEA slump.What does this mean?Insulin Post-prandial 9 5-20 OptimalI did not get instructions foreating properly for this testat noon.Progesterone 25 22-100 OptimalTotal Salivary Slg-A Borderline 21 20-25Gliadin Ab, SlgA Negative 11Thank you,Frannie.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Do I need to supplement a small amount of DHEA? Possibly the supplement PS? I have a terrible infection that is probably causing part of the high Cortisol, no one has identified it or found an antidote. It seem to escalate after an infected tooth was pulled? Frannie To: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS@...: ms.squarepants@...: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:38:15 -0700Subject: RE: New Test Results- Need Opinions & Understanding Actually, " adapted with DHEA slump " is Stage 2 according to diagnos techtests but could be either stage 2 headed toward stage 3 on the ASI index.Here is the stage 2 info:http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%202.htmlYou test results should show you in a box that is either 2 or 3.The Physiological Effects of Stress on the Body(Stage 2)In this phase, we find the cortisol levels are continuing to rise in aneffort by the body to compensate for the unending stress it is asked toundergo. However, we also find that the DHEA levels are not now keeping pacewith the Cortisol levels indicating that the body is beginning to loseground in its efforts keep up with the stress placed upon it. ACTH is notaffecting the production of DHEA to the same degree that it is Cortisol. Thestart of trouble.-----Original Message-----From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS [mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRE\ NALS ]On Behalf OffrannielizoSent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:44 PMTo: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS@...: New Test Results- Need Opinions & UnderstandingVal,Last message told you the endo gave me HC 10mg. She said, 5mg 2x day.I did not start it because of wanting to do a saliva test.I received these results from the alternative doctor, Diagnos-Techs.With Cortisol levels this high, why would my endo prescribe HCand order an AM Cortisol after the fact? What do the other resultsindicate?Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-2411-Noon 20 5-104-5pm 14 3-8Midnight 3 1-4DHEA 6 3-10Note: Adapted with DHEA slump.What does this mean?Insulin Post-prandial 9 5-20 OptimalI did not get instructions foreating properly for this testat noon.Progesterone 25 22-100 OptimalTotal Salivary Slg-A Borderline 21 20-25Gliadin Ab, SlgA Negative 11Thank you,Frannie.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Free Cortisol 7-8am 50 13-24 11-Noon 20 5-10 4-5pm 14 3-8 Midnight 3 1-4 DHEA 6 3-10 Note: Adapted with DHEA slump. What does this mean? Adaptesd with DHEA slump means that your adrenals are adapting to a HUGE stress on your body, probably vey low thyroid,and they are adapting by making way too much cortiosl, then the DHEA is out of balance as it should be high too, so it si a slump. This usually means the adrnals are burning themselves out. This is an early stage of AF but better than when it drops low as you can try to prop the adrenals with vitamins and sea salt, and try to build the thyroid levels so releive the stress on them. I am not sure why the Endo gave you HC except the SYMPTOMS of high and low cortilsl are near identical until some of the Cushings syumptoms appear which can take several weeks or months even. THIS is why I tell every one to NOT treat adrenals until they get testing done. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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