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Thank you, Barb,

Thank you for catching it. I see where this could be an issue for

someone with struggling adrenals. I didn't do it this way due to

being thyroidless - I started out at 2 grains and increased by 1/2

grain two more times, now I'm at 1/4 grain increases. I did have

struggling adrenals, so don't know how I did it. I usually do things

bass ackwards though. LOL I was on 2 grains before I found these

wonderful groups.

Thank you for catching this.

>

> I would like to disagree with this theory for the sake of others

like

> me. What Missy wrote only applies if you don't have adrenal

fatigue. More than one person in our group has had trouble with 1/8

grain increases, and I personally would probably die of tachycardia

and have 100 degree temps at 3 grains. I read one doctor who

researched historical Armour dosages before doctors used TSH and

found that the majority of people were on 2-4 grains. So I would

recommend that once someone got to 2 grains, they slow the raises to

every 5 weeks, and then only raise by 1/4 grain. Your temps and

symptoms would also tell you whether you can tolerate larger

increases, or how far you are from your optimal dose. Someone with

97.6 temps still has a ways to go, whereas someone at 98.5 at only

1.5 grain needs to be cautious. Otherwise you could overshoot your

sweet spot, become hyper, and possibly cause a RT3 problem. Not

good. IMHO.

>

> Barb

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Missy tells everyone on the NTH list to go up by 1/2 grain a week and

doesn't mention adrenals. I mentioned adrenals once and someone said

that the person I was addressing had been around a while and could

stand the 1/2 grain b/c she was already on 2 or more. I don't say

much over there anymore and no one responds to my questions on that

list anyway. I like it here better ;)

> This is from Missy at the NTH list:

> > Usually a person is started at 1/2 to 1 grain. It works best to

> > increase every 2 weeks by 1/2 grain until you reach 3 grains. (1

> > grain = 60 mg). You will want to go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

> > and read the pages:

> >

> > Natural Thyroid 101

> > Things We Have Learned

> > Mistakes Patients Make

> >

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The specific question that I asked on NTH group recently was whether

others with Hashis, which not everyone on this list has, have found

that they feel worse as they increase Armour until they get closer to

a therapeutically correct dose. The Hashis group is essentially

inactive so I hoped to find a few people on NTH that might not spend

much time here but who have had a relevant experience to share. I did

not ask that question on this list so the suggestion that I was

cross-posting and/or trying to cross moderators' answers is, IMO, an

unfair characterization of me and that particular question. As I

said, I find this list to be a little more hospitable and informative

so I participate here and lurk on NTH for the most part. I do think

that not warning everyone about adrenals before recommending a 1/2

grain increase is dangerous, but that's MO and I won't share it over

there.

Thanks,

>

>

> I think you misunderstood the situation you refer to below.

> The " someone " you refer to is me, Missy and I are moderators on the

> NTH group. I knew the history of the person I was helping so I knew

> it was ok for her to increase armour.

> Also it is not true that we never mention adrenals, we advise all new

> members to test adrenals before taking armour but there are some new

> members who have already been taking armour successfully without any

> signs of adrenal fatigue.

> As for us not answering your questions, you were asking the same

> questions you had already posted on this group and had given

> you good advice. Why would we contradict that or even give you the

> same advice. also sometimes monitors posts on the other

> group too.

> Just had to give my side of the story

> Lynda

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> Re: Raising Armour

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> > Missy tells everyone on the NTH list to go up by 1/2 grain a week

> > and

> > doesn't mention adrenals. I mentioned adrenals once and someone

> > said

> > that the person I was addressing had been around a while and could

> > stand the 1/2 grain b/c she was already on 2 or more. I don't say

> > much over there anymore and no one responds to my questions on that

> > list anyway. I like it here better ;)

> >

> >

> >

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