Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 How long since yoiu have had thyroid labs? These temps look HYPER not HYPO and can feel the same. Fluid issues can be fro hyperthyroid too. I think I would be getting some fresh thyroid labs. It could be a Hashi hyper swing or it could be it jst decided to all kick at once. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I haven't had labs done since 9-19. No one to draw blood any more and the nearest lab is 5 hrs. away. These are all the labs I've had done previously. 10-10-06 ZRT Estradiol (saliva) 0.9 L 1.0-5.0 Pre-menopausal (optimal 1.5-3) Progesterone (saliva) 66 L 500-3000 Topical, Sublingual, Troche Ratio: Pg/E2 73 50-200 Optimal, 200-1000 Progesterone Therapy Testosterone (saliva) 20 (20-50) DHEAS (saliva) 3.3 (3-10) Cortisol Morning (saliva) 8.8 H (3-8) Cortisol noon (saliva) 1.6 L (2-4) Cortisol Evening (saliva) 1.4 (1-2) Cortisol Night (saliva) 0.9 (0.5-1.5) Free T4 (blood spot) 1.9 (0.7-2.5) optimal 1-2 Free T3 (blood spot) 2.8 (2.5-6.5) optimal 3-4 TSH (blood spot) 1.1 (0.5-3.0) optimal 0.5-2 TPO (blood spot) 13 (0-150) 70-150 borderline 11-14-06 First Doc wanted me to stay here. 60 Armour 1st Day, then 30 the next and keep rotating this way. FreeT 4 1.1 (0.7-1.9) TSH-Ultrasens 0.71 (0.35-5.50) FreeT3 308 (230-420) 1-30-07 2nd Doc wanted me to stop Armour, and he would treat me with Synthroid TSH 0.09 (0.49-4.67) FreeT4 0.86 (0.70-1.85) No results for FreeT3, wouldn't give them to me. 1-30-07 results 30HC 90mg Armour daily 6-14-07 TSH 0.014 (0.350-5.500) T4,FREE(Direct) 1.71 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.9 (2.3-4.2) 27.5 HC 187.5 Armour 9-17-07 TSH 0.017 (0.350-5.500) T4, Free (Direct) 1.11 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 5.0 (2.3-4.2) Ferritin, Serum 135 (10-291) 25 HC, 195 Armour, 3/4 Florinef If I can figure out how to get bloodwork done I sure will. 2nd Doc office totally freaked out at me the last time I went there. My sis used to do this for me but is upset with me for doing any of this and won't do it for me anymore. wrote: How long since yoiu have had thyroid labs? These temps look HYPER not HYPO and can feel the same. Fluid issues can be fro hyperthyroid too. I think I would be getting some fresh thyroid labs. It could be a Hashi hyper swing or it could be it jst decided to all kick at once. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 6-14-07 TSH 0.014 (0.350-5.500) T4,FREE(Direct) 1.71 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.9 (2.3-4.2) 27.5 HC 187.5 Armour 9-17-07 TSH 0.017 (0.350-5.500) T4, Free (Direct) 1.11 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 5.0 (2.3-4.2) Ferritin, Serum 135 (10-291) 25 HC, 195 Armour, 3/4 Florinef Something happened between these two labs that BIG time improved your thyroid levels. I knwo it doesn;t look like much but what cahnged is that you started converting T4 toT3 MUCH better. I would assume ist is better adrenal funciton. What I would be doing now is lowering the Florinef a you are having flud problems just a 1/4 tab. Then wait a week ad try lowering the HC a bit more. Your thyroid dose is adequate I believe. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I haven't taken any Florinef since 10-22-07 wrote: 6-14-07 TSH 0.014 (0.350-5.500) T4,FREE(Direct) 1.71 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.9 (2.3-4.2) 27.5 HC 187.5 Armour 9-17-07 TSH 0.017 (0.350-5.500) T4, Free (Direct) 1.11 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 5.0 (2.3-4.2) Ferritin, Serum 135 (10-291) 25 HC, 195 Armour, 3/4 Florinef Something happened between these two labs that BIG time improved your thyroid levels. I knwo it doesn;t look like much but what cahnged is that you started converting T4 toT3 MUCH better. I would assume ist is better adrenal funciton. What I would be doing now is lowering the Florinef a you are having flud problems just a 1/4 tab. Then wait a week ad try lowering the HC a bit more. Your thyroid dose is adequate I believe. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 6-14-07 > TSH 0.014 (0.350-5.500) > T4,FREE(Direct) 1.71 (0.61-1.76) > Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.9 (2.3-4.2) > 27.5 HC 187.5 Armour > > 9-17-07 > TSH 0.017 (0.350-5.500) > T4, Free (Direct) 1.11 (0.61-1.76) > Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 5.0 (2.3-4.2) > Ferritin, Serum 135 (10-291) > 25 HC, 195 Armour, 3/4 Florinef > > Something happened between these two labs that BIG time improved your thyroid levels. I knwo it doesn;t look like much but what cahnged is that you started converting T4 toT3 MUCH better. I would assume ist is better adrenal funciton. What I would be doing now is lowering the Florinef a you are having flud problems just a 1/4 tab. Then wait a week ad try lowering the HC a bit more. Your thyroid dose is adequate I believe. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 How did you stop taking the Florinef? Did you wean off gradually or just stop taking it all at once? Re: Confusing I haven't taken any Florinef since 10-22-07 wrote: 6-14-07 TSH 0.014 (0.350-5.500) T4,FREE(Direct) 1.71 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 4.9 (2.3-4.2) 27.5 HC 187.5 Armour 9-17-07 TSH 0.017 (0.350-5.500) T4, Free (Direct) 1.11 (0.61-1.76) Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 5.0 (2.3-4.2) Ferritin, Serum 135 (10-291) 25 HC, 195 Armour, 3/4 Florinef Something happened between these two labs that BIG time improved your thyroid levels. I knwo it doesn;t look like much but what cahnged is that you started converting T4 toT3 MUCH better. I would assume ist is better adrenal funciton. What I would be doing now is lowering the Florinef a you are having flud problems just a 1/4 tab. Then wait a week ad try lowering the HC a bit more. Your thyroid dose is adequate I believe. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Then there is nothign left to do btu to try lowering the HC some more. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 >>I haven't taken any Florinef since 10-22-07 I also haven't taken any Armour since 11-27. What do I do?<< You stopped BOTH? Why did you stop Armour? Or Florinef? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I started having problems with my temps being high on 11-15, so I started cutting the Armour then 99.2, 99,99,99.1,98.9 etc they did come down to 98.4 so I thought I woould add a little Armour in then. The very next day they started coming up again on 60 mg. That was11-24, 98.6. So the next day I did 60 again, then my temps rose to 99.So I tried 30mg for 1 Day and my temp was still 98.9. I stopped all Armour then. 98.9, 99, and then they dropped to 98.5 On no Armour since 11-27. Temps. since have been 98.3,98.7,98.6,98.6, 98.8,98.5,98.7,98.4,97.9,98.5,98.2,98.6,98.6,98.9,99.1,99,99.1,98.7,99,99.2. I started Florinef 7-2 1/4 tab. 27.5HC, 195 Armour , by 7-16 on 1/2 tab my B/P was running higher 140's over 80's and 90's. My blood sugars were high as well, so I dropped some HC, 2.5 down th 25. My B/P dropped some but my blood sugar didn't and then my heartrate started going high again. So I dropped more HC. to 22.5. Heartrate still high so I added more Florinef. Long story short I ended up taking 1 Florinef , 22.5 HC, and 195 Armour. 9-7 by this time my B/P had shot up to 166/93, I was nauseated and vomiting, I had decided that I had, had enough and started the weaning process. I have been off since 10-12. I have since been working to get my blood sugar straightened out. wrote: >>I haven't taken any Florinef since 10-22-07 I also haven't taken any Armour since 11-27. What do I do?<< You stopped BOTH? Why did you stop Armour? Or Florinef? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 This really sounds lie a Hashi attack where a chunk of thyroid is destroyed an dreleases alot of thyroid into the body at once. OR it could also be T4 toxicity. When your body becomes toxic weith high Rt3 it can cause those high temps too even though you are hypo still. JEEZ, what a mess! But your temps are nto stable and with glucose running high it is hard ot advise. I have not seen Florinef raise glucose it certainyl did nto mine. But I wasn;t on it long either. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I'm confused as all get out!!!!!! Yeah, a total mess! Sometimes wonder what I got myself into. I guess I'll keep going as I have with reducing the HC, maybe I can get thru and just start all over! I don't have a clue but I guess it's better than not doing anything. Thinking maybe I can start all over with the ZRT Test, it would be better than nothing for the time being. Thanks again for the help wrote: This really sounds lie a Hashi attack where a chunk of thyroid is destroyed an dreleases alot of thyroid into the body at once. OR it could also be T4 toxicity. When your body becomes toxic weith high Rt3 it can cause those high temps too even though you are hypo still. JEEZ, what a mess! But your temps are nto stable and with glucose running high it is hard ot advise. I have not seen Florinef raise glucose it certainyl did nto mine. But I wasn;t on it long either. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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