Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 " jillbillylove " wrote: > Started Amour on Dec 13th and it is still at 15mg until next year > Jan/Feb time frame then she wants to see blood work again. She also > prescribed DHEA 25mg a day, Stress Eze 2x a day. Melatonin to help > with my lack of sleep (sleep, what's that??) and added multivitamins with selenium and zinc. > > Does this sound right? Medical terms and treatment are like a foreign language that I just can't grasp at all. Should I ask for any other test/treatments? Yes, get Free T3! DHEA 25 mg is a pretty high dose for a woman. Do you feel okay since starting? Everything I've read says to start at 5 mg/day. Melatonin should also be used in minute quantities or it could have the opposite effect on you. What dose were you prescribed? 15 mg Armour is a minute amount for someone hypo. When you do raise, make sure you only do it at 15 mg/week to give your body time to adjust. > Will I ever be able to go > off meds successfully? I have 3 children, should I test them? Armour is usually for life, but properly dosed, improves your quality of life, so you wouldn't want to stop taking it. I'd get you taken care of first, then worry about testing your kids later, unless they're already highly symptomatic. > I am also having skin issues, severe dry, flakey, itchy and has been like that for at least 15 years. Now I am getting Actinic Keratosis froze at dr office. Is this due to growing up in AZ or could it have anything to do with thyroid? Just thought I would ask. Dry skin, especially heels that peel, are hypo symptoms. Don't know about your keratosis, isn't that usually sun exposure related? Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hi Jill, It's not all in your head. You are definitely hypo. You will need to raise faster than next month. This is from Missy at the NTH list: Usually a person is started at 1/2 to 1 grain. It works best to increase every 2 weeks by 1/2 grain until you reach 3 grains. (1 grain = 60 mg). You will want to go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com and read the pages: Natural Thyroid 101 Things We Have Learned Mistakes Patients Make >>>TSH came back 5.87 high range 0.34-4.82, FT4 0.77 range .59-1.17 and TPO 231 high range 0-35 (not sure why he had TPO tested). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Oh Jill, you are one of many victims of the TSH lab. It is the WORST test to tell if you are hypothyroid which you have been for YEARS. I feel any TSH over 1.0 should be treated in women. Your doctor is on basically the right track, but keeping you on 15mg Armour for that long will do more harm than good. You also may need a product called isocort for your adrnels. You can do a Google search for it and order it online as it is OTC med, and we have a ramp up schedule for starting it in our files section. I also suggest you read the files there especially the New Member file and How to treat Adrenals., as that will give oyu a background of how to get this treatment working for you. The TSH test should be scrapped as a screen for hypo and pnce you are on thyroid meds it literally means NOTHING. But even so at least 5 years ago the TSH range has bene lowered to .30- 3.3 so you have been hypothyroid even by that for years that your doctors have ignored. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 >>Yes, get Free T3! DHEA 25 mg is a pretty high dose for a woman. Do you feel okay since starting? Everything I've read says to start at 5 mg/day.<< I think the reason her doctor started her with 25 MG is her low sex hormones. I noticed that even though she did prescribe Progesterone she chose to not supplement her low estrogen. I believe the DHEA may help this though but that is why she prescribed that high a dose. You are absolutely correct abotu getting a Free T3 though! That is the most important thyroid hormone but with youre very low T4 I am certain it is also very low. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 wrote; But even so at least 5 years ago the TSH range has bene lowered to .30- 3.3 so you have been hypothyroid even by that for years that your doctors have ignored. I spoke with my military dr today and he feels I should not even be on Armour/any thing as I am borderline hypo. And recalled in July my TSH & FT4 were 5.87 and .77 but in Sept they werein the " normal " range at 2.32 and my FT4 was at .52. Questioned why I didn't take Synthyroid if I was going to start meds. His literature does not support saliva test and made me feel like an ass for getting a second opinion. He said, " We were gonna test you in 6 months to see if you were hypo but you are only borderline " . He also explained FT3 is not important, reason why they did not test me. My memory is horrid so I sounded like a babbling idiot trying to recall the info from books and web sites I researched (mostly from STM suggestions) and new dr. The only reason I saw him was to get referral to dermatology and he noticed I started Armour. Am I just a wimp with symptoms? He made me really doubt what I am doing acting as if it was all in my head again. I have not yet started the Progesterone cream (waiting for day 14) and need to buy DHEAs. I am not noticing any difference in taking the 15mg of Armour, only been a week though. If I decide to up my dose, should I postpone the DHEA until my hypo symptoms subside? Thanks for your help, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 " jillbillylove " wrote: > I spoke with my military dr today and he feels I should not even be > on Armour/any thing as I am borderline hypo. Questioned why I didn't take Synthyroid if I was going to start meds. Your doctor's ignorance is appalling! A doctor should prescribe what works for the patient. His insistence on Synthroid shows he is closed-minded. You will HAVE to get another doctor. > His literature does not support saliva test and made me feel like an ass for getting a second opinion. He also explained FT3 is not important, reason why they did not test me. Okay, now he's an ignorant ass. I hate doctors who talk down to you. FT3 not important? That's what powers everything in our body! > My memory is horrid so I sounded like a babbling idiot trying to > recall the info from books and web sites I researched (mostly from > STM suggestions) and new dr. I think everyone here has that problem and it's a Catch-22. How can you coherently argue for Armour instead of Synthroid when you're brain-fogged because you're hypo? The only thing I can recommend is to make lots of notes and print out documents that support your position. Doctors hate women who come in with notes, but at least it might give YOU something to refer to if you want to present your point. > Am I just a wimp with symptoms? He made me really doubt what I am > doing acting as if it was all in my head again. I have not yet > started the Progesterone cream (waiting for day 14) and need to buy > DHEAs. You are NOT a wimp. You have an untreated medical condition. Sad part is that there is treatment, but he isn't giving it to you. IF you decide to start DHEA, I would highly recommend only starting with 5 mg. Some people have had bad reactions so you should start slowly to make sure you're not one of them. > I am not noticing any difference in taking the 15mg of Armour, only > been a week though. If I decide to up my dose, should I postpone the DHEA until my hypo symptoms subside? Some people take both Armour and DHEA successfully, others have bad side effects, so you could try one 5mg pill and see how you react. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Well you can weait for the bad sympotoms to start but I can tell you from my own experinece. Whne I was literally dying of myxedema Coma the doctor was tell ing me my thyroi was fine. I had ot go so far as a BP of 245/148 for twqo years and congestive heart failure before I went to se;lf treat ing my thyroid which was the CAUSE of it.I was given under 2 years to live by four SPECIALISTS 13 years ago. None of them thought I had a thyroid problem. So your doctor, hthough an idiot, is in good company. So are you in finding this list. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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