Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 TSH .861 range .35-5.5 FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 RT3 165 range 90-350 Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) OK RT3 is OK at 19.39 ratio. JUST OK. I suspect with a tad more adrenal support you may make it trough withotu it going too high. That FERRITIN!!! OUCH!!! 200mg elemental iron daily! I have heard Gerritol with Ferrex brings iut up rather quickly. You are stil la bit hypo but not horrible, soI would leave the thyroid where it is until you get the ferritin and cortiosl looking better. Ferritin should be between 70-90. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Whoops! Sorry I posted this twice! My brain isn't working right. :-) I wonder why???? Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Wow, your ferritin levels are even lower than mine. Mine were 28. You need iron, Reference range for ferritin starts at 11. My lab work is IN!! My doctor called this morning with my lab results. I wrote down the thyroid stuff and the cortisol stuff. He will mail me a copy of the complete results, so I'll have those later. Here is what he said: TSH .861 range .35-5.5 FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 RT3 165 range 90-350 Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) Ferratin 14.5 (forgot the range on this one, but would I really need it? This is after being on iron a couple of weeks too!) Cortisol levels (Look a bit low don't they!): Morning 6 range 13-24 Noon 4 range 5-10 Afternoon 4 range 3-8 Midnight 1 range 1-4 DHEA 3 range 3-10 IGA 17 range 25-60 So what stage do I look like? Please advise away! My doctor is going to put me on HC. He wants me to start off on either 10 in the morning and 5 at noon or 5 in the morning and 2.5 at noon. I can't remember which tablet he was going to call in. I'll go get it later. He also wants me to do another sleep study ( I don't mind doing this.) I am also apparently gluten intolerant. This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be appreciated. Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Just curious if you've been experiencing restless/painful legs? I noticed this has happened to me since all my blood loss and low iron. My lab work is IN!! >> >> >> My doctor called this morning with my lab results. I wrote down >> the thyroid >> stuff and the cortisol stuff. He will mail me a copy of the complete >> results, so I'll have those later. Here is what he said: >> >> TSH .861 range .35-5.5 >> FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 >> FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 >> RT3 165 range 90-350 >> Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) >> >> Ferratin 14.5 (forgot the range on this one, but would I really need >> it? >> This is after being on iron a couple of weeks too!) >> >> Cortisol levels (Look a bit low don't they!): >> >> Morning 6 range 13-24 >> Noon 4 range 5-10 >> Afternoon 4 range 3-8 >> Midnight 1 range 1-4 >> >> DHEA 3 range 3-10 >> IGA 17 range 25-60 >> >> So what stage do I look like? Please advise away! My doctor is >> going to put >> me on HC. He wants me to start off on either 10 in the morning >> and 5 at noon >> or 5 in the morning and 2.5 at noon. I can't remember which >> tablet he was >> going to call in. I'll go get it later. He also wants me to do >> another sleep >> study ( I don't mind doing this.) I am also apparently gluten >> intolerant. >> This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is >> defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> >> Cherie >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release >> Date: 12/18/2007 >> 9:40 PM >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Yeah, it's amazing how it can be that low, but my hemoglobin and stuff didn't show it. At least it didn't a few months ago. I started taking iron a few weeks ago, but I guess I need to up the amount. :-) Cherie > Wow, your ferritin levels are even lower than mine. Mine were > 28. You need iron, > Reference range for ferritin starts at 11. > > > My lab work is IN!! > > > My doctor called this morning with my lab results. I wrote down > the thyroid > stuff and the cortisol stuff. He will mail me a copy of the complete > results, so I'll have those later. Here is what he said: > > TSH .861 range .35-5.5 > FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 > FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 > RT3 165 range 90-350 > Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) > > Ferratin 14.5 (forgot the range on this one, but would I really need it? > This is after being on iron a couple of weeks too!) > > Cortisol levels (Look a bit low don't they!): > > Morning 6 range 13-24 > Noon 4 range 5-10 > Afternoon 4 range 3-8 > Midnight 1 range 1-4 > > DHEA 3 range 3-10 > IGA 17 range 25-60 > > So what stage do I look like? Please advise away! My doctor is > going to put > me on HC. He wants me to start off on either 10 in the morning > and 5 at noon > or 5 in the morning and 2.5 at noon. I can't remember which > tablet he was > going to call in. I'll go get it later. He also wants me to do > another sleep > study ( I don't mind doing this.) I am also apparently gluten > intolerant. > This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is > defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be > appreciated. > > Cherie > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release > Date: 12/18/2007 > 9:40 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 My legs hurt a lot. I get muscle and joint pain. I have low iron, too, but I don't know if that is the cause. My lab work is IN!! >>> >>> >>> My doctor called this morning with my lab results. I wrote down >>> the thyroid >>> stuff and the cortisol stuff. He will mail me a copy of the complete >>> results, so I'll have those later. Here is what he said: >>> >>> TSH .861 range .35-5.5 >>> FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 >>> FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 >>> RT3 165 range 90-350 >>> Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) >>> >>> Ferratin 14.5 (forgot the range on this one, but would I really need >>> it? >>> This is after being on iron a couple of weeks too!) >>> >>> Cortisol levels (Look a bit low don't they!): >>> >>> Morning 6 range 13-24 >>> Noon 4 range 5-10 >>> Afternoon 4 range 3-8 >>> Midnight 1 range 1-4 >>> >>> DHEA 3 range 3-10 >>> IGA 17 range 25-60 >>> >>> So what stage do I look like? Please advise away! My doctor is >>> going to put >>> me on HC. He wants me to start off on either 10 in the morning >>> and 5 at noon >>> or 5 in the morning and 2.5 at noon. I can't remember which >>> tablet he was >>> going to call in. I'll go get it later. He also wants me to do >>> another sleep >>> study ( I don't mind doing this.) I am also apparently gluten >>> intolerant. >>> This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is >>> defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Cherie >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release >>> Date: 12/18/2007 >>> 9:40 PM >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 He had told me to increase the iron I was taking to 50mg. So you think I should go to 200 mg? I am taking Gentle Iron (Iron Bisglycinate) by Solgar. Is this different than elemental iron? I'm not taking any thyroid at this time. I took .025mcg (or whatever it is) for about 6 weeks and felt a bit better on it. I went off of it to do the thyroid uptake scan and it didn't happen because of a bunch of other things going on. I'm still not sure if I should get that done or not. I have at lest one nodule and several cysts. The doctor said he thought I should wait to start the thyroid back until after I've been on the HC for a bit. That way we can tell what is doing what. I'm just so glad to have labs that actually SHOW something. If I had the energy, I go back to a couple of doctor's office's and shove the results in their faces. What stage adrenal fatigue would you say I'm at with the levels I have? Basically, I want to be able to say: " I'm at stage ____ adrenal fatigue. " It sounds more technical and I feel like people will take it more seriously that way. :-) Thanks! Cherie > > TSH .861 range .35-5.5 > FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 > FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 > RT3 165 range 90-350 > Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) > > OK RT3 is OK at 19.39 ratio. JUST OK. I suspect with a tad more > adrenal support you may make it trough withotu it going too high. > That FERRITIN!!! OUCH!!! 200mg elemental iron daily! I have heard > Gerritol with Ferrex brings iut up rather quickly. You are stil > la bit hypo but not horrible, soI would leave the thyroid where > it is until you get the ferritin and cortiosl looking better. > Ferritin should be between 70-90. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Oh yes! I've had RLS (restless leg syndrome) since I was a kid. I didn't know what it was until I was grown though and someone mentioned it in conversation. I always thought that everyone's legs did that. :-) It may be linked to the low iron, but for some reason taking Vit. E helps it tremendously for me. Cherie > > Just curious if you've been experiencing restless/painful legs? > I noticed > this has happened to me since all my blood loss and low iron. > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 My alternative doc says RLS is always either magnesium deficiency, folic acid deficiency or iron deficiency. RE: My lab work is IN!! > Oh yes! I've had RLS (restless leg syndrome) since I was a kid. I didn't > know what it was until I was grown though and someone mentioned it in > conversation. I always thought that everyone's legs did that. :-) It may > be > linked to the low iron, but for some reason taking Vit. E helps it > tremendously for me. > > Cherie > >> >> Just curious if you've been experiencing restless/painful legs? >> I noticed >> this has happened to me since all my blood loss and low iron. >> >> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: > 12/18/2007 > 9:40 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 > This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is > defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be > appreciated. Hi Cherie, I have been on a gluten free diet for 6 months for Candida treatment. There are some great sites out there with recipes: http://www.paleofood.com/ http://wholeapproachforums.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/2536011311 http://westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/index.html http://www.naturallythriving.com/recipes/index.php I hope these help! Regards, Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I am gluten free too. I've been tested and am gluten intolerant. It's really very easy. You just pretend that there's no such thing as wheat products and you eat EVERYTHING else. Re: My lab work is IN!! > This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is > defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be > appreciated. Hi Cherie, I have been on a gluten free diet for 6 months for Candida treatment. There are some great sites out there with recipes: http://www.paleofood.com/ http://wholeapproachforums.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/2536011311 http://westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/index.html http://www.naturallythriving.com/recipes/index.php I hope these help! Regards, Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Cara, I just went gluten free myself a few weeks ago. I have actually felt worse since then, but I think it is because I needed an Armour raise and wasn't taking enough HC. It is tough, but in the long run will be worth it! I actually just made cookies (with wheat flour) as a gift for some friends and neighbors and I didn't eat any! Yay, me. It is hard! LOL I'll be happy to commiserate with you Re: My lab work is IN!! > This is not a good thing. Trying to implement a gluten free diet is > defineatly going to be a huge challenge for me, so any advice will be > appreciated. Hi Cherie, I have been on a gluten free diet for 6 months for Candida treatment. There are some great sites out there with recipes: http://www.paleofood.com/ http://wholeapproachforums.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/2536011311 http://westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/index.html http://www.naturallythriving.com/recipes/index.php I hope these help! Regards, Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Read the label onm your iron. It should tell you how much elemental iron is in each pill. 150-200mg daily is what it takes to bring low ferritin up. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Yeah, I have to watch my carbs, too. I LOVE to bake, so I will be experimenting, believe me! LOL I already know I don't really care for bean flours. The problem is the alternative flours are so dang pricey! Re: Re: My lab work is IN!! Cara, I just went gluten free myself a few weeks ago. I have actually felt worse since then, but I think it is because I needed an Armour raise and wasn't taking enough HC. It is tough, but in the long run will be worth it! I actually just made cookies (with wheat flour) as a gift for some friends and neighbors and I didn't eat any! Yay, me. It is hard! LOL I'll be happy to commiserate with you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Are there any other labs I need to get done before I start the HC? ACTH stim test or anything? Cherie > > TSH .861 range .35-5.5 > FT-3 3.2 range 2.3-4.2 > FT-4 1.39 range .6-1.76 > RT3 165 range 90-350 > Antibodies <20 (i forgot to get the range on this) > > OK RT3 is OK at 19.39 ratio. JUST OK. I suspect with a tad more > adrenal support you may make it trough withotu it going too high. > That FERRITIN!!! OUCH!!! 200mg elemental iron daily! I have heard > Gerritol with Ferrex brings iut up rather quickly. You are stil > la bit hypo but not horrible, soI would leave the thyroid where > it is until you get the ferritin and cortiosl looking better. > Ferritin should be between 70-90. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 There are wonderful gluten free recipes on the net including for cookies and other things and you can also buy great products in the stores now. Don't need to deprive yourself too much. Now, if you are watching your glycemic index as well as gluten it is a little trickier but there are still options like almond, quinoa and other flours to substitute and natural low glycemic sugars like agave nectar. It's amazing what options are out there but it takes a lot of time and experimenting to learn a new system. Cheri Re: Re: My lab work is IN!! Cara, I just went gluten free myself a few weeks ago. I have actually felt worse since then, but I think it is because I needed an Armour raise and wasn't taking enough HC. It is tough, but in the long run will be worth it! I actually just made cookies (with wheat flour) as a gift for some friends and neighbors and I didn't eat any! Yay, me. It is hard! LOL I'll be happy to commiserate with you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 FWIW, I use the same kind of iron and 100mg wasn't enough. I am trying to work up to 200, just cautious as I am breastfeeding and too much iron can be toxic for children. Re: My lab work is IN!! > > > Read the label onm your iron. It should tell you how much elemental iron > is in each pill. 150-200mg daily is what it takes to bring low > ferritin up. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 It says 25mg, so I'll take 4 a day. Cherie > Re: My lab work is IN!! > > > Read the label onm your iron. It should tell you how much elemental iron > is in each pill. 150-200mg daily is what it takes to bring low > ferritin up. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I can't count anymore! I was thinking that 4 would be 200. I would need 8 a day then. Good grief! I need another source of iron. Cherie > > FWIW, I use the same kind of iron and 100mg wasn't enough. I am > trying to work up to 200, just cautious as I am breastfeeding and > too much iron can be toxic for children. > > Re: My lab work is IN!! > > > > > > Read the label onm your iron. It should tell you how much > elemental iron > > is in each pill. 150-200mg daily is what it takes to bring low > > ferritin up. > > > > -- > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Just wished to inform that I read that taking vit C while taking iron improves iron absorption. bw Nil RE: My lab work is IN!! I can't count anymore! I was thinking that 4 would be 200. I would need 8 a day then. Good grief! I need another source of iron. Cherie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Thanks Cara! I'll check out these sites. :-) Cherie > > Hi Cherie, > I have been on a gluten free diet for 6 months for Candida treatment. > There are some great sites out there with recipes: > > http://www.paleofood.com/ > > http://wholeapproachforums.com/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/2536011311 > > http://westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/index.html > > http://www.naturallythriving.com/recipes/index.php > > I hope these help! > Regards, > Cara > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 12/18/2007 9:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hi Cherie, My iron was 5 in May and was 94 in November - 6 months later. I did not take any iron supplements. I was already eating meat with every meal so figured it was a problem with absorbtion/ digestion rather than lacking iron consumption. I took HCL tablets about 5 with each meal, I've also been taking a whole lot of vitamins for the last 6 months, specific vitamins are meant to help with the absorbtion of iron, I think Vit A & C but this is from my poor memory you may like to do a search on this yourself. Regards, Cara > > > I can't count anymore! I was thinking that 4 would be 200. I would need 8 a > day then. Good grief! I need another source of iron. > > Cherie > > > > > FWIW, I use the same kind of iron and 100mg wasn't enough. I am > > trying to work up to 200, just cautious as I am breastfeeding and > > too much iron can be toxic for children. > > > > RE: My lab work is IN!! > > > > > > It says 25mg, so I'll take 4 a day. > > > > Cherie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I Kimberley, I have felt much better going gluten free, lots more energy and some of my health problems resolved after a few months - eg varicose veins started dissapearing, hearmoroids clearing, acne etc. However I've made a lot of other changes to my diet cutting out refined sugar, alchohol, dairy and ALL prepackaged foods etc has also really helped. I now cook everything from scratch, I've learned to really enjoy cooking! I gave myself 4 months to transition over gradually and that made it a lot easier. It's actually a lot harder for me to give up smoking!!! Still trying to do that! I wonder if one of the reasons you are feeling worse could also be the drop of energy from all the carbs in the grains? Did you increase good fats when you reduced carbs - eg coconut oil, butter, olive oil, fish oil? That would probably help with energy levels. My diet is high fat, moderate protein and low carb. It is definatley hard to begin with but if you stick with it you should gain many rewards and it becomes much easier with time! Reards, Cara > > Cara, I just went gluten free myself a few weeks ago. I have actually felt worse since then, but I think it is because I needed an Armour raise and wasn't taking enough HC. > > It is tough, but in the long run will be worth it! I actually just made cookies (with wheat flour) as a gift for some friends and neighbors and I didn't eat any! Yay, me. It is hard! LOL > > I'll be happy to commiserate with you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Oh I'm glad I read this. My iron says that each tablet contains 27 mgs. of iron. Does that mean I can take about 6 of them per day? I've gotta get mind up quick. Re: My lab work is IN!! Read the label onm your iron. It should tell you how much elemental iron is in each pill. 150-200mg daily is what it takes to bring low ferritin up. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 >>Oh I'm glad I read this. My iron says that each tablet contains 27 mgs. of iron. Does that mean I can take about 6 of them per day? I've gotta get mind up quick.<< 6-8 of them if you can tolerate it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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