RE: Cherie..gluten and stages

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Cherie,

I think you are at a late stage adrenal fatigue, probably stage 6 headed

toward 7 since not only is your overall level very low but you are depressed

two times in the day and borderline depressed the other two and your DHEA is

at the low end. Your labs are not as bad as mine but close. My brain isn't

working well today but remind me tomorrow and I will look it up on the

website for you and should be able to tell you more precisely.

When I started out a few years ago, I literally was so sick that 99% of

anything I ate created issues for me. In childhood and up through my 20s I

really didn't have major problems to speak of. It got bad by age 35 and by

37 I was so toxic I couldn't function. I had to do some parasite and colon

cleanses before I could even contemplate really working on my diet and other

issues. Then, eliminating gluten (wheat and such...my body can't tolerate)

helped tremendously, then the sugars, then dairy. I went all organic or as

much as possible. I have had Candida issues since age 10 though, so that has

always been an issue thanks to my mercury poisoning. Plus, living in mold

infected places filled my body with mycotoxins in all my organs so that is

another issue I am dealing with...systemic fungal infections.

I added cheese in lately, but found it caused me to have major colon issues

that I have not had in years so eliminated again. Finding protein sources

outside of plants is nearly impossible for me so I am ready to just focus on

other things because I can't seem to get meat protein and I don't digest it

anyway. I also found that the cortisol in Isocort is causing me gut issues

and I really needed something stronger like HC, so I am thinking I am forced

to go to all cream and hope that the research I posted the other day is

wrong and the body does absorb more than 1-7%. I can't get my temps

stabilized and I have become super hypo since starting adrenal treatment and

I can't let the hypo continue any longer without some thyroid support. I

really am having a bad day today (temps in the 96 ranges and a whole degree

off from yesterday's averages) and can't wait a year for my temps to

stabilize before starting thyroid meds. I guess at stage 7 where I am at

this is going to be even harder than I thought.

Veggies require lots of digestive enzymes with me taken about 15 minutes to

30 minutes before. I love veggies so it is worth it to take the enzymes. I

have been making my homemade sushi with veggies and quinoa instead of rice

and my body seems to really like that and I enjoy the taste. My bigger

issues is meat. I hate it, but need the protein. Since I am on cortisol,

the smell even gags me. Not sure why...thought it would get better. I can't

eat any beef...it literally makes me vomit. Chicken I can force myself to

eat with creative recipes and some buffalo meat. I can't tolerate pork

either. However, even chicken which I used to like the taste of is gagging

me lately.

The other issue I have is stomach acid and ulcer issues so meat is even

harder for me to digest. My ulcer starts acting up and I get really bad acid

reflux, so again, lots of enzymes. Some days are better than others. When I

think about it I can find good, healthy, good tasting recipes that I really

enjoy but it is time consuming and when I am pressed for time, my eating is

worse. I am going to try to do at least 5 days a week making meals in

advance and freezing to see if that helps.

One thing I will say with all this, I think your level of toxicity has a lot

to do with it. I haven't been cleansing as much this year as prior years and

am having a lot more digestive issues and food intolerances so I need to get

back to that. Also, when I ran out of my Garden of Life Primal Defense

probiotics, I used two other brands I still had stock of for two weeks, and

boy did I notice a difference. It is like it set me back 3 years. So, I am

on a large dose of the Primal Defense again to try to restore that.

One thing that I am lucky with is I do not have a problem with beans. I cook

them with kombu which prevents any gas or upset and black and garbanzo beans

I really love. So, I do use them and they have been one of the best foods

for me, but I haven't tried the flours. I have used quinoa, almond, flax and

some pastry flour mixed in to do various recipes. Many of them actually

taste a lot better than flour or corn but again, it is taking the time to

find what you like and can make quickly. On my brain fog days, I need

something made in advance, lol. I limit grains but organic brown rice pasta

seems to be fine...I make a good spaghetti, lol.

I also have twisted and cracked teeth and jaw malformation that in the last

7 years has gotten really bad. I need 9 filings replaced, my teeth built up,

and braces (none of which I can afford right now) so foods like nuts I have

to grind in my little processor then sprinkle on foods. The left side I

could still use up until a few months ago but I have another tooth cracking

so not it is mush foods.

Hope that rambling was somewhat coherent. Like I said, my brain is not

working at all today. I had a tire blowout late last night, had to walk a

mile to the station today in the cold morning air and then spent $500 on 4

tires which I really cannot afford right now and the service guy was rude

from the start and I wasn't in the mood for a fight when I was giving the

jerk $500 of my money! Whatever happened to customer service? On top of

that, my temps are super low today and I feel very hypo. I have been turning

down all holiday party invites the past two months, but one tonight I really

wanted to go to...friends I haven't seen in months...and now I think I am

too sick to attend. Just a bad day all around.

Ugh!

Cheri

RE: Re: My lab work is IN!!

Thanks Cheri! I'll just have to do more research and figure stuff out. There

are lots of things that I can't eat though because it hurts my stomach.

Almost any veggie that I like, hurts me. The ones I don't like and may not

hurt my guts, I gag when I try to eat them. Can you get by on meat and

pills? I'll adjust. At least there is an element of control in this. There

really should be a rule that you can only have 1 major health issue.

Any ideas on what stage of adrenal fatigue I'm at? I've tried looking at the

charts withother levels and my brain won't wrap around it. The part I'm

having trouble with is how you figure out what square you go into. I know it

has something to do with the mean of the 2 middle cortisol levels and the

DHEA, but I can't crack the code. My brain locks up. It is very frustrating

becasue stuff like that used to be easy for me. Here are the levels again:

Morning 6 range 13-24

Noon 4 range 5-10

Afternoon 4 range 3-8

Midnight 1 range 1-4

DHEA 3 range 3-10

Cherie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheri! I had my dh look at it with me and as near as we can figure my

levels fall on the stupid lines where 4, 7, and reference meet. Stupid

lines.

You have certainly been through alot. I'm grateful to you and Val and the

others on this list who are sharing your hard earned knowledge with the rest

of us! I can certainly understand the whole brain not working thing. My

seems to get worse every day. I'll be talking and my brain seems to shut off

in mid-sentence. When I was at my doctor's yesterday, he said he would give

me a B-12 shot so I followed him out of the exam room. He asked me if I

still wanted the shot and I said yes and then started to leave again. He had

to tell me 3 times to go back into the exam room and sit down before it

clicked. I joke with friends when it happens that I saw something shiny, but

this bothers me more than the fatigue. I miss my brain. Maybe I should put

up lost and found posters and offer a reward if someone finds it and returns

it....

Cherie

BTW my dd loves you screenname.

>

> Cherie,

> I think you are at a late stage adrenal fatigue, probably stage 6 headed

> toward 7 since not only is your overall level very low but you

> are depressed

> two times in the day and borderline depressed the other two and

> your DHEA is

> at the low end. Your labs are not as bad as mine but close. My brain isn't

> working well today but remind me tomorrow and I will look it up on the

> website for you and should be able to tell you more precisely.

>

> When I started out a few years ago, I literally was so sick that 99% of

> anything I ate created issues for me. In childhood and up through my 20s I

> really didn't have major problems to speak of. It got bad by age 35 and by

> 37 I was so toxic I couldn't function. I had to do some parasite and colon

> cleanses before I could even contemplate really working on my

> diet and other

> issues. Then, eliminating gluten (wheat and such...my body can't tolerate)

> helped tremendously, then the sugars, then dairy. I went all organic or as

> much as possible. I have had Candida issues since age 10 though,

> so that has

> always been an issue thanks to my mercury poisoning. Plus, living in mold

> infected places filled my body with mycotoxins in all my organs so that is

> another issue I am dealing with...systemic fungal infections.

>

> I added cheese in lately, but found it caused me to have major

> colon issues

> that I have not had in years so eliminated again. Finding protein sources

> outside of plants is nearly impossible for me so I am ready to

> just focus on

> other things because I can't seem to get meat protein and I don't

> digest it

> anyway. I also found that the cortisol in Isocort is causing me gut issues

> and I really needed something stronger like HC, so I am thinking

> I am forced

> to go to all cream and hope that the research I posted the other day is

> wrong and the body does absorb more than 1-7%. I can't get my temps

> stabilized and I have become super hypo since starting adrenal

> treatment and

> I can't let the hypo continue any longer without some thyroid support. I

> really am having a bad day today (temps in the 96 ranges and a

> whole degree

> off from yesterday's averages) and can't wait a year for my temps to

> stabilize before starting thyroid meds. I guess at stage 7 where I am at

> this is going to be even harder than I thought.

>

> Veggies require lots of digestive enzymes with me taken about 15

> minutes to

> 30 minutes before. I love veggies so it is worth it to take the enzymes. I

> have been making my homemade sushi with veggies and quinoa instead of rice

> and my body seems to really like that and I enjoy the taste. My bigger

> issues is meat. I hate it, but need the protein. Since I am on cortisol,

> the smell even gags me. Not sure why...thought it would get

> better. I can't

> eat any beef...it literally makes me vomit. Chicken I can force myself to

> eat with creative recipes and some buffalo meat. I can't tolerate pork

> either. However, even chicken which I used to like the taste of is gagging

> me lately.

>

> The other issue I have is stomach acid and ulcer issues so meat is even

> harder for me to digest. My ulcer starts acting up and I get

> really bad acid

> reflux, so again, lots of enzymes. Some days are better than

> others. When I

> think about it I can find good, healthy, good tasting recipes

> that I really

> enjoy but it is time consuming and when I am pressed for time, my

> eating is

> worse. I am going to try to do at least 5 days a week making meals in

> advance and freezing to see if that helps.

>

> One thing I will say with all this, I think your level of

> toxicity has a lot

> to do with it. I haven't been cleansing as much this year as

> prior years and

> am having a lot more digestive issues and food intolerances so I

> need to get

> back to that. Also, when I ran out of my Garden of Life Primal Defense

> probiotics, I used two other brands I still had stock of for two

> weeks, and

> boy did I notice a difference. It is like it set me back 3 years. So, I am

> on a large dose of the Primal Defense again to try to restore that.

>

> One thing that I am lucky with is I do not have a problem with

> beans. I cook

> them with kombu which prevents any gas or upset and black and

> garbanzo beans

> I really love. So, I do use them and they have been one of the best foods

> for me, but I haven't tried the flours. I have used quinoa,

> almond, flax and

> some pastry flour mixed in to do various recipes. Many of them actually

> taste a lot better than flour or corn but again, it is taking the time to

> find what you like and can make quickly. On my brain fog days, I need

> something made in advance, lol. I limit grains but organic brown

> rice pasta

> seems to be fine...I make a good spaghetti, lol.

>

> I also have twisted and cracked teeth and jaw malformation that

> in the last

> 7 years has gotten really bad. I need 9 filings replaced, my

> teeth built up,

> and braces (none of which I can afford right now) so foods like

> nuts I have

> to grind in my little processor then sprinkle on foods. The left side I

> could still use up until a few months ago but I have another

> tooth cracking

> so not it is mush foods.

>

> Hope that rambling was somewhat coherent. Like I said, my brain is not

> working at all today. I had a tire blowout late last night, had to walk a

> mile to the station today in the cold morning air and then spent $500 on 4

> tires which I really cannot afford right now and the service guy was rude

> from the start and I wasn't in the mood for a fight when I was giving the

> jerk $500 of my money! Whatever happened to customer service? On top of

> that, my temps are super low today and I feel very hypo. I have

> been turning

> down all holiday party invites the past two months, but one

> tonight I really

> wanted to go to...friends I haven't seen in months...and now I think I am

> too sick to attend. Just a bad day all around.

>

> Ugh!

>

> Cheri

>

>

>

> RE: Re: My lab work is IN!!

>

>

> Thanks Cheri! I'll just have to do more research and figure stuff

> out. There

> are lots of things that I can't eat though because it hurts my stomach.

> Almost any veggie that I like, hurts me. The ones I don't like and may not

> hurt my guts, I gag when I try to eat them. Can you get by on meat and

> pills? I'll adjust. At least there is an element of control in this. There

> really should be a rule that you can only have 1 major health issue.

>

> Any ideas on what stage of adrenal fatigue I'm at? I've tried

> looking at the

> charts withother levels and my brain won't wrap around it. The part I'm

> having trouble with is how you figure out what square you go

> into. I know it

> has something to do with the mean of the 2 middle cortisol levels and the

> DHEA, but I can't crack the code. My brain locks up. It is very

> frustrating

> becasue stuff like that used to be easy for me. Here are the levels again:

>

> Morning 6 range 13-24

> Noon 4 range 5-10

> Afternoon 4 range 3-8

> Midnight 1 range 1-4

>

> DHEA 3 range 3-10

>

> Cherie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

O, Cherie,

Your email made me think of this:

I'm lost. . .

I've gone to look for myself.

Should I return before get back, please ask me to wait.

Thanks

>>>When I was at my doctor's yesterday, he said he would give

me a B-12 shot so I followed him out of the exam room. He asked me if I

still wanted the shot and I said yes and then started to leave again. He had

to tell me 3 times to go back into the exam room and sit down before it

clicked. I joke with friends when it happens that I saw something shiny, but

this bothers me more than the fatigue. I miss my brain. Maybe I should put

up lost and found posters and offer a reward if someone finds it and returns

it....

[Guest guest]

Yep! that about sums it up! I miss myself...but I think most of us on this

list do...

Cherie

> O, Cherie,

>

> Your email made me think of this:

>

> I'm lost. . .

> I've gone to look for myself.

> Should I return before get back, please ask me to wait.

> Thanks

>

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[Guest guest]

>>>Yep! that about sums it up! I miss myself...but I think most of us on this

list do...<<<

Yes, I could so relate and I had that paper from when I worked in CD rehab. I

hope you feel better.