Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 I was dx after two years. The doctor I have in alabama is one of the few that woeks with cases of PLS. He did test to rule out ALS and the others and after 2 years he said that I had PLS. The said to go to the internet where I would find answers to most of my questions then put me on Baclofen. I was luckey to find this group as this is where I do find most of my answers. > Hi all > > I have stated that i have either HSP or PLS but i have been incorrect > in saying that. 3 neurologists have only given me a diagnosis of > Spastic Paraplegia with Startle Myoclonus which as i understand it, is > not a diagnosis but symptoms of a disorder. The 4th neuro came up > with HSP or PLS but he is stumped with me as i dont clearly fit in > with either one. but he has said that it is more likely HSP as there > are 23 different varieties. My symptoms began 9 years ago and saw my > first neuro 7 years ago (who like Lana here, told me to see a > physchiatrist). You would think that i would have a diagnosis by now. > I am using a walker now outside the home and speech problems began > 1.5 years ago but have been corrected by taking baclofen. So my > question to the people here is, how long after symptoms began did you > receive a firm diagnosis? and are there any people here, like me, who > are still waiting to be diagnosed? > > thanks > > maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Hi Maureen, Around 8 years ago I was first diagnosed with M.S.I went through the shots and even chemotherapy for M.S. I just contiually got worse, so my Neuro sent me to a specialist, that put me through all those tests again, she stated that I dont have M.S I indeed have PLS. So after getting used to the fact that I had M.S for 7 years, now I have to deal with another diagnosis. Hey at least I am still being able to walk and talk. Original Message ----- From: Maureen To: PLS-FRIENDS Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:34 AM Subject: How long did it take for you to be diagnosed Hi all I have stated that i have either HSP or PLS but i have been incorrect in saying that. 3 neurologists have only given me a diagnosis of Spastic Paraplegia with Startle Myoclonus which as i understand it, is not a diagnosis but symptoms of a disorder. The 4th neuro came up with HSP or PLS but he is stumped with me as i dont clearly fit in with either one. but he has said that it is more likely HSP as there are 23 different varieties. My symptoms began 9 years ago and saw my first neuro 7 years ago (who like Lana here, told me to see a physchiatrist). You would think that i would have a diagnosis by now. I am using a walker now outside the home and speech problems began 1.5 years ago but have been corrected by taking baclofen. So my question to the people here is, how long after symptoms began did you receive a firm diagnosis? and are there any people here, like me, who are still waiting to be diagnosed? thanks maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 I got a diagnosis pretty quick. As a matter of fact, I may even hold the record for being rapidly diagnosed with this stuff. I first saw a general type doctor, who sent me to a neurologist, who did some tests (including X-rays and MRI scans) and when he said he was puzzled, I got sent right to the chairman of neurology at the University of Virginia School of Medicine. He did some more tests and stuff, and then I got a diagnosis, which has since been re-confirmed oodles of times. The whole process took less than a year, unlike many of the stories you will hear. I must confess however, that at the time I worked for that same medical school, and that the MRI was almost just across the street from where I worked. Shoot, I could leave work, have some scans or something done, and be back at my desk in under an hour. -- Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA ghekhuis@... We are the CroMagnon of the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 I too am in this position. Spastic paraplegia (quadriplegia?) is what the neuros will write down if asked. However when I saw Talbot in the UK he told me he thought I fitted PLS. I have deteriorating movement in my legs, fingers and also speech problems. Startle reflex, hyperactive reflexes, some drooling at night and deformed feet. One neuro thought that my feet indicated that this has been progressing for a long time. Talbot indicated PLS is more likely because of the speech involvement. I think they are all just being cautious of a definite diagnosis. I've been seeing them for about 3 years now but symptons started about 6 years ago. Myself I'm convinced its PLS. I think that Doctors down this part of the world maybe don't see as much PLS. I've grown to accept this uncertainty as a positive thing at this point and just keep hoping for slowing progression. Regards Kiwi How long did it take for you to be diagnosed Hi all I have stated that i have either HSP or PLS but i have been incorrect in saying that. 3 neurologists have only given me a diagnosis of Spastic Paraplegia with Startle Myoclonus which as i understand it, is not a diagnosis but symptoms of a disorder. The 4th neuro came up with HSP or PLS but he is stumped with me as i dont clearly fit in with either one. but he has said that it is more likely HSP as there are 23 different varieties. My symptoms began 9 years ago and saw my first neuro 7 years ago (who like Lana here, told me to see a physchiatrist). You would think that i would have a diagnosis by now. I am using a walker now outside the home and speech problems began 1.5 years ago but have been corrected by taking baclofen. So my question to the people here is, how long after symptoms began did you receive a firm diagnosis? and are there any people here, like me, who are still waiting to be diagnosed? thanks maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Maureen, I had symptoms that were serious enough to see a physician back in about 1996. The symptoms were hip pain, lack of balance on my feet and minor leg weakness. I was diagnosed with PLS in 1998. My diagnosis remains a " working diagnosis " . This means that if symptoms change, so will my diagnosis. Nonetheless, after 6 years of the same (but progressively worse) symptoms, it is very unlikely that any new symptoms will arise in my case--according to my neurologist. Typically, but not always, PLS includes speech problems. Some neurologists insist that there must be speech problems to have a PLS diagnosis. Others disagree. In a year or 2, new diagnostic criteria for PLS will be published. (Thanks to Thomson, Gentner, Thurza and Dixson who worked for 2 years to help organize the PLS Conference help early this past June in Santa Cruz, CA.) Once the new criteria are published, neurologists will be able to classify my symptoms more accurately. And there won't be any more disagreements about whether speech problems are required for a final PLS diagnosis. Until then, I wait for the final word on my diagnosis. Mark > Hi all > > I have stated that i have either HSP or PLS but i have been incorrect > in saying that. 3 neurologists have only given me a diagnosis of > Spastic Paraplegia with Startle Myoclonus which as i understand it, is > not a diagnosis but symptoms of a disorder. The 4th neuro came up > with HSP or PLS but he is stumped with me as i dont clearly fit in > with either one. but he has said that it is more likely HSP as there > are 23 different varieties. My symptoms began 9 years ago and saw my > first neuro 7 years ago (who like Lana here, told me to see a > physchiatrist). You would think that i would have a diagnosis by now. > I am using a walker now outside the home and speech problems began > 1.5 years ago but have been corrected by taking baclofen. So my > question to the people here is, how long after symptoms began did you > receive a firm diagnosis? and are there any people here, like me, who > are still waiting to be diagnosed? > > thanks > > maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 Hi Maureen, My PLS diagnosis took a month in 1993 and three weeks of that was waiting for the MRI appointment. Had been feeling stiff and having problems running, so mentioned it to my GP (a great doc!). He did various simple physical tests with me, sent me off to see a local neuro the next day who did basically the same physical tests and then booked me in for an MRI at a hospital which had only had their machine for a month or two but already had almost a three week waiting list. Went back to see the neuro about a week after the MRI. That was probably the worst month of my life, wondering whether what I had was some inoperable brain tumour, MS or other horrible disease. Based on my clinical symptoms and the fact that my MRI showed abnormal signals in the corticospinal tract he agreed with the guy who had written up the MRI report that I had PLS. So, that was it, just under a month. In retrospect I think it was a pretty gutsy call given all I know now, but I also think it was pretty spot on because in the eleven years since then I have lost my speech and much of my mobility, developed urinary urgency and startle reflex etc and everything I have read from others here on PLS-FRIENDS makes me confident that I truly do have PLS. Regards, -- . ,-._|\ Covington / Oz \ \_,--.x/ v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2004 Report Share Posted July 11, 2004 , I seem to have lost the intense " startle reflex, " and feel good about it. I really don't know where it went and expect it to show up when I least expect it. The urinary frequency is getting worse. Someone once stated in this group that it was like your brain suddenly telling you that you were supposed to go an hour ago. Or something like that. I have been very lucky in the mobility part. I am able to walk easily with just a four wheeled walker and occasionally around my house, yard and office without it. I just need it immediately when I need it. I feel like something is going right with me and I am not progressing at all. However, my voice volume has dropped in just the past three months and I seem like I have to force my words out occasionally. That is getting more frequent. Welcome to this great group of people. There are a lot of us who just read and delete. Many of us used to respond more frequently, but now just speak up when we feel like we have something to contribute. There is a wealth of information here, and none from any neuros. Just us plain folk. However, they seem to be catching on, since there seem to be more people joining this group recently than in any three month period before. Guess the SPF and NIH got the message out. Keep in there and here. Let us know how you're doing and we'll do the same. May you see better days ahead. Mike Gray Re: How long did it take for you to be diagnosed > Hi Maureen, > > My PLS diagnosis took a month in 1993 and three weeks of that was > waiting for the MRI appointment. Had been feeling stiff and having > problems running, so mentioned it to my GP (a great doc!). He did > various simple physical tests with me, sent me off to see a local neuro > the next day who did basically the same physical tests and then booked > me in for an MRI at a hospital which had only had their machine for a > month or two but already had almost a three week waiting list. > > Went back to see the neuro about a week after the MRI. That was > probably the worst month of my life, wondering whether what I had was > some inoperable brain tumour, MS or other horrible disease. Based on my > clinical symptoms and the fact that my MRI showed abnormal signals in > the corticospinal tract he agreed with the guy who had written up the > MRI report that I had PLS. So, that was it, just under a month. > > In retrospect I think it was a pretty gutsy call given all I know now, > but I also think it was pretty spot on because in the eleven years since > then I have lost my speech and much of my mobility, developed urinary > urgency and startle reflex etc and everything I have read from others > here on PLS-FRIENDS makes me confident that I truly do have PLS. > > Regards, > > > -- > . > ,-._|\ Covington > / Oz \ > \_,--.x/ > v > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I have found the stories of getting a PLS diagnosis most interesting. Ronnie's account of so many neurologic disorders in the area of Berkeley Springs, WV, should be followed by some researcher. It took me less than a year for my diagnosis and I never did have an MRI. Following a couple unexplained falls, my internist noticed a couple abnormal reflexes. He not was not satisfied with what he heard back from a referral to an orthopedist and he immediately sent me to a neurologist who had all of those uncomfortable tests run and within a week the neuro said he suspected PLS but that he would monitor it for 6 months before a final diagnosis. A year later he said we could definitely rule out ALS -- and I was surprised and glad I didn't know he had not ruled that out earlier. I must add that a couple year before the unexplained falls I had physical therapy for sciatica, but what didn't return was the full feeling in my left big toe. The physical therapist said something else was going on unrelated to the sciatica. In retrospect, I suspect that was the first " symptom " of PLS, particularly since my degeneration has been somewhat slow paced. Thanks for asking! Dorothy > Hi all > > I have stated that i have either HSP or PLS but i have been incorrect > in saying that. 3 neurologists have only given me a diagnosis of > Spastic Paraplegia with Startle Myoclonus which as i understand it, is > not a diagnosis but symptoms of a disorder. The 4th neuro came up > with HSP or PLS but he is stumped with me as i dont clearly fit in > with either one. but he has said that it is more likely HSP as there > are 23 different varieties. My symptoms began 9 years ago and saw my > first neuro 7 years ago (who like Lana here, told me to see a > physchiatrist). You would think that i would have a diagnosis by now. > I am using a walker now outside the home and speech problems began > 1.5 years ago but have been corrected by taking baclofen. So my > question to the people here is, how long after symptoms began did you > receive a firm diagnosis? and are there any people here, like me, who > are still waiting to be diagnosed? > > thanks > > maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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