Re: My Older Labs-Would like imput

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From an earlier post of Val's:

" When you have high cortisol it blocks conversion of T4 to T3

then the T4 builds too high in the body and to rid itself of the

excess T4 the body will make RT3. If this is prolonged (or in some

instances it seems folks just get stuck in this mode) the RT3 fills

the T3 receptors, but as it is inactive it then blocks the T3 you DO

have from entering the cells. As long as you have T4 in highish

amounts the RT3 is replenished in the receptors and you will get

toxicity symptoms from Armour. "

So you would need to stop any med containing T4 and move to T3 for

awhile. Isn't that what you're already doing?

Barb

>

> I feel like I am missing something when I read my old labs.

>

> This blood lab was taken in August of 2007, my adrenals showed minor

> discomfort at the time and I was not on HC.

>

> I was on 5 grains of NT and still napping, feeling like crap, losing

> hair, slow reflexes but lost some weight and grew nails.

>

> I am confused by the high T4 and super high T3...And if I showed

signs

> of conversion issues back then?

>

> TSH 0.012 (.25-3.0)low

>

> rT3 41.7 (6.7-21.8)high

>

> rT3/T3 10.12% (4-32%)

>

> FT3 11.3 (1.8-3.9)high

>

> FT4 2.6 (0.8-1.7)high

>

> Tasia

>

[Guest guest]

>

> From an earlier post of Val's:

>

> " When you have high cortisol it blocks conversion of T4 to T3

> then the T4 builds too high in the body and to rid itself of the

> excess T4 the body will make RT3. If this is prolonged (or in some

> instances it seems folks just get stuck in this mode) the RT3 fills

> the T3 receptors, but as it is inactive it then blocks the T3 you DO

> have from entering the cells. As long as you have T4 in highish

> amounts the RT3 is replenished in the receptors and you will get

> toxicity symptoms from Armour. "

>

> So you would need to stop any med containing T4 and move to T3 for

> awhile. Isn't that what you're already doing?

>

> Barb>

>

>

Barb,

I did switch to T3 and begin on HC, but I have been wondering if I

should have stayed on NT, tested adrenals, and then added HC. I am now

switching from the time released T3 and my body is hypo again--I am

concerned that T3 won't give my body the spectrum that it needs....

I would like to learn how to interpret my lab results so I can review

my tests from the last 6 months. I do not understand why my FT3 is

high on the last test....

And my Rt3 was 10%...the top of the range is 32%...is that high? What

is normal?

Tasia

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rT3 41.7 (6.7-21.8)high

This shows a conversin problem btu the reason it you were making too much RT3 is

because you were on too much Armour. You passed your sweet spot. Once T4 goes

over abotu 1.4 The RT3 starts to climb. All the T3 in the world will not make

you feel unhypo when RT3 is that high as it cannot get to the cells.

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[Guest guest]

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> rT3 41.7 (6.7-21.8)high

>

> This shows a conversin problem btu the reason it you were making too

much RT3 is because you were on too much Armour. You passed your sweet

spot. Once T4 goes over abotu 1.4 The RT3 starts to climb. All the T3

in the world will not make you feel unhypo when RT3 is that high as it

cannot get to the cells.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV>

>

>

Ok, got it! That explains why I didn't feel wonderful with my high

levels of T3. I thought the high T3 would work through some of the

RT3 issues.

Tasia

[Guest guest]

> >

> > rT3 41.7 (6.7-21.8)high

> >

> > This shows a conversin problem btu the reason it you were making too

> much RT3 is because you were on too much Armour. You passed your sweet

> spot. Once T4 goes over abotu 1.4 The RT3 starts to climb. All the T3

> in the world will not make you feel unhypo when RT3 is that high as it

> cannot get to the cells.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV>

> >

> >

> Ok, got it! That explains why I didn't feel wonderful with my high

> levels of T3. I thought the high T3 would work through some of the

> RT3 issues.

>

> Tasia

Yes, I thought that was the whole point of the taking T3 or does it

just not work if you have too high levels of RT3? I have very high

levels of RT3 and yet I've never been on Armour or any type of thyroid

treatment.

Cara

[Guest guest]

>

> >>Yes, I thought that was the whole point of the taking T3 or does it

> just not work if you have too high levels of RT3? I have very high

> levels of RT3 and yet I've never been on Armour or any type of thyroid

> treatment. <<

>

> Getting T3 high is not the ONLY part of clearing out excess Rt3. You

must also lower the SOURCE for Rt3 which is T4. As long as oyu are

keeping the T4 at high levels a fresh supply of RT3 is constantly

being made and strongly attached ot the receptors so no T3 can work.

>

Thanks . That's what is puzzling to me since i have not been on

any treatment for thyroid so its not as if my high T4 is coming from

Armour or Synthoid. Do you know what else could cause the high T4?

Regards,

Cara

[Guest guest]

I think if you have conversion issues and/or cellular resistance, the

natural thyroid your body produces can't convert or can't get into the cells

and what is left is a lot of T4 not being utilized.

Cheri

Re: My Older Labs-Would like imput

>

> >>Yes, I thought that was the whole point of the taking T3 or does it

> just not work if you have too high levels of RT3? I have very high

> levels of RT3 and yet I've never been on Armour or any type of thyroid

> treatment. <<

>

> Getting T3 high is not the ONLY part of clearing out excess Rt3. You

must also lower the SOURCE for Rt3 which is T4. As long as oyu are

keeping the T4 at high levels a fresh supply of RT3 is constantly

being made and strongly attached ot the receptors so no T3 can work.

>

Thanks . That's what is puzzling to me since i have not been on

any treatment for thyroid so its not as if my high T4 is coming from

Armour or Synthoid. Do you know what else could cause the high T4?

Regards,

Cara

[Guest guest]

> > > This shows a conversin problem btu the reason it you were making

too

> > much RT3 is because you were on too much Armour. You passed your

sweet

> > spot. Once T4 goes over abotu 1.4 The RT3 starts to climb. All the

T3

> > in the world will not make you feel unhypo when RT3 is that high as

it

> > cannot get to the cells.

> > >

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> > > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV>

I, too, have high rT3 which the ration was 12.4. My T3 was over the

window and the T4 was at top of window. What you say above to that

person is that they were on too much armour and they passed their spot.

On another post you said the following:

" Getting T3 high is not the ONLY part of clearing out excess Rt3. You

must also lower the SOURCE for Rt3 which is T4. As long as oyu are

keeping the T4 at high levels a fresh supply of RT3 is constantly being

made and strongly attached ot the receptors so no T3 can work "

I did as you suggested Val and cut back my HC 2.5mg and Armour 30mg

when we found the rT3. Did I miss my spot? So I am wondering if I

should cut back my Armour a little more to bring my T4 down more? I

have another lab test on Dec 27 for the doc so I will be able to see

where I am. My T3 should be here in a week or so....

but if T3 can not work with high rT3, how does giving additional T3

help? I'm confused...

[Guest guest]

>>Thanks . That's what is puzzling to me since i have not been on

any treatment for thyroid so its not as if my high T4 is coming from

Armour or Synthoid. Do you know what else could cause the high T4?<<

Graves in which you could be hyperthyroid, OR low cortisol where your body is

not able to utilize the thyroid hormones your body is making properly.

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[Guest guest]

>>but if T3 can not work with high rT3, how does giving additional T3

help? I'm confused...<<

Thsi si why you need ot go on NOTHING but T3. You have to stop the flow of T4

into your body. This is accomplished by taking a full supressive dose of T3

onyl. You want to worj=k the T3 up to have a TSH as close to 0 as you can

wihtout getting hyper symptoms. Mine was .015 last test, wiht my T4 at .26 and I

doubt it would go much lower. My Free T3 is 6.2 which is RIGHT where ti needs ot

be to clear the receptors.

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