Re: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

[Guest guest]

I would suggest working your HC dose up a bit faster than is usually

recommended. Foir me (Diabetic on Insulin) HC actually is lowering my

glucose. Low dose does not seemto do that but once I got to 20mg + it

does lower it substantially. I think you need to get to the point it si

actully helping the thyroid work correctly and THAT is what actually

lowers the glucose. I would go on a low glycemic diet till then. When

are you taking the 5MG?

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[Guest guest]

I took 2.5 for 3 days when I woke up, 2.5 in the morning and at lunch for 3

days, and tomorrow I would start going up to 7.5. - probably 8 am, 12 pm &

4 pm.

Thanks,

Liz

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Subject: Re: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

I would suggest working your HC dose up a bit faster than is usually

recommended. Foir me (Diabetic on Insulin) HC actually is lowering my

glucose. Low dose does not seemto do that but once I got to 20mg + it does

lower it substantially. I think you need to get to the point it si actully

helping the thyroid work correctly and THAT is what actually lowers the

glucose. I would go on a low glycemic diet till then. When are you taking

the 5MG?

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[Guest guest]

Also, Val, do you know why it does that?

Thanks,

Liz

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Low dose does not seemto do that but once I got to 20mg + it does lower it

substantially. I think you need to get to the point it si actully helping

the thyroid work correctly and THAT is what actually lowers the glucose.

[Guest guest]

>>I took 2.5 for 3 days when I woke up, 2.5 in the morning and at lunch for 3

days, and tomorrow I would start going up to 7.5. - probably 8 am, 12 pm &

4 pm.<<

So yoiu have only been on 5MG? That really is not possible ot raise glucose. I

would go to 5 in the Am adn then 2.5mg at noon fo rth enext raise as you need to

establish a cortisol rythym which is very important.

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[Guest guest]

>>Also, Val, do you know why it does that?<<

I have nto a clue! I have asked some of the most knowlegeable people I could

find, and even aske dmy doctor whoic said it was inpossible, in spite of my

religious trackign my glucose that showed it happening.

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[Guest guest]

ooooh. i already took 2.5 in the morning and 2.5 at 12:30. Should I skip 4:30

pm today and tomorrow do 5 mg in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch?

Thanks,

Liz

Re: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

>>I took 2.5 for 3 days when I woke up, 2.5 in the morning and at lunch for 3

days, and tomorrow I would start going up to 7.5. - probably 8 am, 12 pm &

4 pm.<<

So yoiu have only been on 5MG? That really is not possible ot raise glucose. I

would go to 5 in the Am adn then 2.5mg at noon fo rth enext raise as you need to

establish a cortisol rythym which is very important.

[Guest guest]

>>ooooh. i already took 2.5 in the morning and 2.5 at 12:30. Should I skip 4:30

pm today and tomorrow do 5 mg in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch?<<

That sounds like a plan!

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[Guest guest]

Val,

I took 5 mg this morning and went from 110 fasting bg to 143 bg after

breakfast. I had the same breakfast I've had many times before starting HC

and then doing 2.5 mg and I only went up a few points. Should I just assume

this will even out when I get higher?

Thanks,

Liz

Re: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

>>ooooh. i already took 2.5 in the morning and 2.5 at 12:30. Should I

>>skip 4:30 pm today and tomorrow do 5 mg in the morning and then 2.5 at

>>lunch?<<

That sounds like a plan!

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[Guest guest]

>>I took 5 mg this morning and went from 110 fasting bg to 143 bg after

breakfast. I had the same breakfast I've had many times before starting HC

and then doing 2.5 mg and I only went up a few points. Should I just assume

this will even out when I get higher?<<

OK If I am to use your glucose to answer you, I need more details. WHAT did you

eat, and how long after breakfast did you recheck glucose?

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[Guest guest]

Yesterday, the first day I took 5 mg instead of 2.5 in the morning, I test

110 bg fasting. I ate 2 turkey sausages and 2 cups of coffee with

coffeemate and, 1 hour later, tested bg at 143. (I'd eaten this many times

before and just went up 7-10 pts.) This morning my fasting bg was 103 - the

2nd day I took 5.0 in the morning. It went up to 109 before I ate breakfast

(but had taken the HC) and then, 40 min later, went down to 101. 15 min

later down to 94. Perhaps my bg is adjusting to the higher dose and perhaps

I'm just a lot more sensitive to sugar (as in the Coffee Mate) on HC?

But what is really concerning me is how I feel. When I was just on 2.5 in

the morning, I was feeling better than before I started. When I was taking

2.5 in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch, I was feeling a little edgy and

having trouble sleeping but still generally OK. On both of those doses,

when I worked from home, I felt OK most of the day. When I had to go into

work, I crashed in the afternoon. But yesterday, when I took 5.0 in the

morning, I crashed hard 3 1/2 hrs later, felt a little better after lunch

dosing, crashed a little more in the late afternoon and had trouble sleeping

until very late. Today I couldn't wake up and I feel so spacy I can't

think. I have a headache, my sinuses hurt and I feel slightly nausous. (I

took 5.0 this morning). Am I going up too fast? Is it possible to just

need 2.5?

Thanks!

Liz

[mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:00 PM

>>I took 5 mg this morning and went from 110 fasting bg to 143 bg after

breakfast. I had the same breakfast I've had many times before starting HC

and then doing 2.5 mg and I only went up a few points. Should I just assume

this will even out when I get higher?<<

OK If I am to use your glucose to answer you, I need more details. WHAT did

you eat, and how long after breakfast did you recheck glucose?

[Guest guest]

I am certainly no expert, but I thought that caffiene was really hard on the

adrenals. Maybe that is the culprit?

Kim

RE: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

Yesterday, the first day I took 5 mg instead of 2.5 in the morning, I test

110 bg fasting. I ate 2 turkey sausages and 2 cups of coffee with

coffeemate and, 1 hour later, tested bg at 143. (I'd eaten this many times

before and just went up 7-10 pts.) This morning my fasting bg was 103 - the

2nd day I took 5.0 in the morning. It went up to 109 before I ate breakfast

(but had taken the HC) and then, 40 min later, went down to 101. 15 min

later down to 94. Perhaps my bg is adjusting to the higher dose and perhaps

I'm just a lot more sensitive to sugar (as in the Coffee Mate) on HC?

But what is really concerning me is how I feel. When I was just on 2.5 in

the morning, I was feeling better than before I started. When I was taking

2.5 in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch, I was feeling a little edgy and

having trouble sleeping but still generally OK. On both of those doses,

when I worked from home, I felt OK most of the day. When I had to go into

work, I crashed in the afternoon. But yesterday, when I took 5.0 in the

morning, I crashed hard 3 1/2 hrs later, felt a little better after lunch

dosing, crashed a little more in the late afternoon and had trouble sleeping

until very late. Today I couldn't wake up and I feel so spacy I can't

think. I have a headache, my sinuses hurt and I feel slightly nausous. (I

took 5.0 this morning). Am I going up too fast? Is it possible to just

need 2.5?

Thanks!

Liz

[mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:00 PM

>>I took 5 mg this morning and went from 110 fasting bg to 143 bg after

breakfast. I had the same breakfast I've had many times before starting HC

and then doing 2.5 mg and I only went up a few points. Should I just assume

this will even out when I get higher?<<

OK If I am to use your glucose to answer you, I need more details. WHAT did

you eat, and how long after breakfast did you recheck glucose?

[Guest guest]

According to Dr. , author of " Adrenal Fatigue " caffeine is the WORST

thing for adrenals and next comes sugar and all other stimulants.

RE: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

Yesterday, the first day I took 5 mg instead of 2.5 in the morning, I test

110 bg fasting. I ate 2 turkey sausages and 2 cups of coffee with

coffeemate and, 1 hour later, tested bg at 143. (I'd eaten this many times

before and just went up 7-10 pts.) This morning my fasting bg was 103 - the

2nd day I took 5.0 in the morning. It went up to 109 before I ate breakfast

(but had taken the HC) and then, 40 min later, went down to 101. 15 min

later down to 94. Perhaps my bg is adjusting to the higher dose and perhaps

I'm just a lot more sensitive to sugar (as in the Coffee Mate) on HC?

But what is really concerning me is how I feel. When I was just on 2.5 in

the morning, I was feeling better than before I started. When I was taking

2.5 in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch, I was feeling a little edgy and

having trouble sleeping but still generally OK. On both of those doses,

when I worked from home, I felt OK most of the day. When I had to go into

work, I crashed in the afternoon. But yesterday, when I took 5.0 in the

morning, I crashed hard 3 1/2 hrs later, felt a little better after lunch

dosing, crashed a little more in the late afternoon and had trouble sleeping

until very late. Today I couldn't wake up and I feel so spacy I can't

think. I have a headache, my sinuses hurt and I feel slightly nausous. (I

took 5.0 this morning). Am I going up too fast? Is it possible to just

need 2.5?

Thanks!

Liz

[mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:00 PM

>>I took 5 mg this morning and went from 110 fasting bg to 143 bg after

breakfast. I had the same breakfast I've had many times before starting HC

and then doing 2.5 mg and I only went up a few points. Should I just assume

this will even out when I get higher?<<

OK If I am to use your glucose to answer you, I need more details. WHAT did

you eat, and how long after breakfast did you recheck glucose?

[Guest guest]

I don't think I can kick coffee cold turkey. I've been drinking less lately

and when I feel better, plan to drink even less. Meanwhile, does it mean I

should take less of a dose of HC (the 5 mg in the morning) when I drink my

coffee?

Li

Re: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

According to Dr. , author of " Adrenal Fatigue " caffeine is the

WORST thing for adrenals and next comes sugar and all other stimulants.

RE: Intro and help with HC and Blood Sugar

Yesterday, the first day I took 5 mg instead of 2.5 in the morning, I test

110 bg fasting. I ate 2 turkey sausages and 2 cups of coffee with

coffeemate and, 1 hour later, tested bg at 143. (I'd eaten this many times

before and just went up 7-10 pts.) This morning my fasting bg was 103 -

the

2nd day I took 5.0 in the morning. It went up to 109 before I ate

breakfast

(but had taken the HC) and then, 40 min later, went down to 101. 15 min

later down to 94. Perhaps my bg is adjusting to the higher dose and

perhaps

I'm just a lot more sensitive to sugar (as in the Coffee Mate) on HC?

But what is really concerning me is how I feel. When I was just on 2.5 in

the morning, I was feeling better than before I started. When I was taking

2.5 in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch, I was feeling a little edgy and

having trouble sleeping but still generally OK. On both of those doses,

when I worked from home, I felt OK most of the day. When I had to go into

work, I crashed in the afternoon. But yesterday, when I took 5.0 in the

morning, I crashed hard 3 1/2 hrs later, felt a little better after lunch

dosing, crashed a little more in the late afternoon and had trouble

sleeping

until very late. Today I couldn't wake up and I feel so spacy I can't

think. I have a headache, my sinuses hurt and I feel slightly nausous. (I

took 5.0 this morning). Am I going up too fast? Is it possible to just

need 2.5?

Thanks!

Liz

[Guest guest]

>>I don't think I can kick coffee cold turkey. I've been drinking less lately

and when I feel better, plan to drink even less. Meanwhile, does it mean I

should take less of a dose of HC (the 5 mg in the morning) when I drink my

coffee?<<

I do not think you need to give up coffee completely. What I did was switch out

half my regular coffee for Decaf. I buy organic coffee and I feel it si better

for you than tea which is FULL of fluoride. On half Caf my pulse is behaving and

I feel fine. Caffeine does NOT replace cortisol so you should take the cortiosl

the same with or without coffee, in fact consistency in cortisol dosing is

essential.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks!

So you think I should stick with 5, 2.5, & 2.5 for now?

Liz

I do not think you need to give up coffee completely. What I did was switch

out half my regular coffee for Decaf. I buy organic coffee and I feel it si

better for you than tea which is FULL of fluoride. On half Caf my pulse is

behaving and I feel fine. Caffeine does NOT replace cortisol so you should

take the cortiosl the same with or without coffee, in fact consistency in

cortisol dosing is essential.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

Yesterday, the first day I took 5 mg instead of 2.5 in the morning, I test

110 bg fasting. I ate 2 turkey sausages and 2 cups of coffee with

coffeemate and, 1 hour later, tested bg at 143. (I'd eaten this many times

before and just went up 7-10 pts.) This morning my fasting bg was 103 -

the

2nd day I took 5.0 in the morning. It went up to 109 before I ate

breakfast

(but had taken the HC) and then, 40 min later, went down to 101. 15 min

later down to 94. Perhaps my bg is adjusting to the higher dose and

perhaps

I'm just a lot more sensitive to sugar (as in the Coffee Mate) on HC?

But what is really concerning me is how I feel. When I was just on 2.5 in

the morning, I was feeling better than before I started. When I was taking

2.5 in the morning and then 2.5 at lunch, I was feeling a little edgy and

having trouble sleeping but still generally OK. On both of those doses,

when I worked from home, I felt OK most of the day. When I had to go into

work, I crashed in the afternoon. But yesterday, when I took 5.0 in the

morning, I crashed hard 3 1/2 hrs later, felt a little better after lunch

dosing, crashed a little more in the late afternoon and had trouble

sleeping

until very late. Today I couldn't wake up and I feel so spacy I can't

think. I have a headache, my sinuses hurt and I feel slightly nausous. (I

took 5.0 this morning). Am I going up too fast? Is it possible to just

need 2.5?

[Guest guest]

>>So you think I should stick with 5, 2.5, & 2.5 for now?<<

Stick wiht that for now and graph your temperature averages. Go to

www.drrind.com and read his method of taking t3mps three times a day and

graphing the averages. This will tell you if oyu are on enough cortiosl to be

able to tolerate thyroid well.

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