Re: 22 yearold male with thyroid and adrenal problems: My Story Please Help!!!

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" ep451 " wrote:

> my TSH was an 8.9 compared with the 2.7 it had been in april. She

said that this could possibly be hypothyroid

Wow Evan, sorry you've been through so much. It's small comfort, but

everyone here has been to an endickrinologist, so you're in good

company. Do you have any other lab numbers to share, like Free T3,

Free T4, sodium, potassium, cholesterol? And have you done any

saliva labs to determine your cortisol levels? You need to know that

to determine whether you need Isocort or HC, and what kind of dosing

you might expect. Once you have lab numbers, Val can give you

detailed advice.

I agree that you're probably hypothyroid, but as you already found

out, you can't just raise your dose without proper adrenal support,

whether Isocort or HC, but you won't know how much of that you need

either till you get saliva labs done.

How much weight have you put on and in what time frame?

Hang in there,

Barb

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Evan, I'm new and learning, but what this group has advised me to do is to

address the adrenals BEFORE addressing the Tyroid.

If I'm wrong, I'll be corrected and we'll both learn.

Kathy in AZ

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> > my TSH was an 8.9 compared with the 2.7 it had been in april. She

> said that this could possibly be hypothyroid

>

> Wow Evan, sorry you've been through so much. It's small comfort,

but

> everyone here has been to an endickrinologist, so you're in good

> company. Do you have any other lab numbers to share, like Free T3,

> Free T4, sodium, potassium, cholesterol? And have you done any

> saliva labs to determine your cortisol levels? You need to know

that

> to determine whether you need Isocort or HC, and what kind of

dosing

> you might expect. Once you have lab numbers, Val can give you

> detailed advice.

>

> I agree that you're probably hypothyroid, but as you already found

> out, you can't just raise your dose without proper adrenal support,

> whether Isocort or HC, but you won't know how much of that you need

> either till you get saliva labs done.

>

> How much weight have you put on and in what time frame?

>

> Hang in there,

> Barb

>

Thanks for the advice Barb. I've had like 4 seperate labs done with a

ton of stuff tested so I'll post the results here soon. All my free

T3 and T4 they said came back normal or so they said, my TSH and

hypothyroid symptoms is how she went by diagnosing me. I really want

to order the sailva test but I mean the problem I'm having is that

it's 150 bucks for the thing and im so tight on money right now its

hard, but i really am going to try to order it because I plan on

taking the HC once it arrives.

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>

All my free

> T3 and T4 they said came back normal or so they said,

Nearly everyone has " normal " labs, that's why we ask for actual

values and ranges. The ranges the labs use are WAAAY too broad and

include all hypo people.

I really want

> to order the sailva test but I mean the problem I'm having is that

> it's 150 bucks for the thing and im so tight on money right now its

> hard, but i really am going to try to order it because I plan on

> taking the HC once it arrives.

>

I understand the money problem . . . many here are in the same boat.

But realize, if you start the HC once it arrives, you can't later

take the saliva test and get accurate results unless you get off it

for two weeks. So it's better to wait and take the test, BEFORE

starting HC. For some folks, weaning is almost impossible nor

desirable.

Barb

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> >

> All my free

> > T3 and T4 they said came back normal or so they said,

>

> Nearly everyone has " normal " labs, that's why we ask for actual

> values and ranges. The ranges the labs use are WAAAY too broad and

> include all hypo people.

>

> I really want

> > to order the sailva test but I mean the problem I'm having is

that

> > it's 150 bucks for the thing and im so tight on money right now

its

> > hard, but i really am going to try to order it because I plan on

> > taking the HC once it arrives.

> >

> I understand the money problem . . . many here are in the same

boat.

> But realize, if you start the HC once it arrives, you can't later

> take the saliva test and get accurate results unless you get off it

> for two weeks. So it's better to wait and take the test, BEFORE

> starting HC. For some folks, weaning is almost impossible nor

> desirable.

>

> Barb

>

thanks barb are you basically telling me that once someone starts HC

it's basically impossible to ever get off of it an one must take it

their whole life??? if that's the case then i guess i really may have

to wait it out and try to just have them recover on their own. my

doctor in michigan made me believe that one could take HC for a

matter of 6-8 weeks and then slowly wean off of it with no problem so

im confused.

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>

> thanks barb are you basically telling me that once someone starts HC

> it's basically impossible to ever get off of it an one must take it

> their whole life???

Well it depends how bad your adrenals are, and that's why you do the

saliva testing FIRST. There are 7 stages, and recovery can take from

months to years, depending on your stage.

if that's the case then i guess i really may have

> to wait it out and try to just have them recover on their own. my

> doctor in michigan made me believe that one could take HC for a

> matter of 6-8 weeks and then slowly wean off of it with no problem so

> im confused.

If you've only got very mild adrenal fatigue, sure, 8 weeks might be

possible. But for most, the adrenals do NOT recover unless they're put

on HC for awhile. Then there are intermediate cases where Isocort is

enough.

My whole point is to get tested first. Your case may be mild, but then

again, it might be severe. You don't know till you test. I've read

more than one post from someone who started on HC, then got their tests

back and found out that they didn't need it and had a hard time weaning

off. Others never tested and just kept blindly increasing their dose

till they were too high and had other problems.

Barb

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Hi,

I am taking Cortef for the past four weeks and it has been a LIFE

SAVER. I am calmer, more relaxed etc. I feel like a tank, vs always on

edge.

My doc (Dr. Liebowitz - Hall Centre Santa ) ordered the URINE

test. he says that he rarely does the saliva test anymore. I am not

sure of the price... i can check...

Barb, what are the seven stages for this? where can i read about it?

when i started CORTEF I slept 9-10 hours/night. I thought to myself -

OMG - i will never workout again as i am too busy sleeping through

them. 2 weeks into it I am at or less than my usual 8 hours (which is

good for me)

Please do tell me on where to read the seven stages...

Lucy

INaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Barb " wrote:

>

>

> >

> > thanks barb are you basically telling me that once someone starts HC

> > it's basically impossible to ever get off of it an one must take it

> > their whole life???

>

> Well it depends how bad your adrenals are, and that's why you do the

> saliva testing FIRST. There are 7 stages, and recovery can take from

> months to years, depending on your stage.

>

> if that's the case then i guess i really may have

> > to wait it out and try to just have them recover on their own. my

> > doctor in michigan made me believe that one could take HC for a

> > matter of 6-8 weeks and then slowly wean off of it with no problem so

> > im confused.

>

> If you've only got very mild adrenal fatigue, sure, 8 weeks might be

> possible. But for most, the adrenals do NOT recover unless they're put

> on HC for awhile. Then there are intermediate cases where Isocort is

> enough.

>

> My whole point is to get tested first. Your case may be mild, but then

> again, it might be severe. You don't know till you test. I've read

> more than one post from someone who started on HC, then got their tests

> back and found out that they didn't need it and had a hard time weaning

> off. Others never tested and just kept blindly increasing their dose

> till they were too high and had other problems.

>

> Barb

>

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STages of Adrenal Fatigue:

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html

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