Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

[Guest guest]

Boy, I am so glad you mentioned that, ! I was never an obsessive

person until I got really adrenal fatigued and then I was so horribly

obsessed for years. I noticed that when I started taking adrenal glandulars

4 years ago I immediately became less obsessive and since taking cortisol I

am not obsessed at all. In fact I kind of miss it, lol, because I could

really get a lot done if it fit into my obsession. Now, the things I was

obsessed about don't even interest me. Ha!

Re: Val- I have a ? about symtoms I am having -

crying, worring, etc...

Periods seem to be really tough times for most with AF. And obsessing

is definitely a low cortisol symtpom! I have seen it in many of the

peopel I have helped.

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[Guest guest]

MsSquarepants wrote:

> I immediately became less obsessive and since taking cortisol

Cheri,

Have you made the switch from Isocort to HC then?

sol

[Guest guest]

I am using both right now. Slowly swapping out doses. Still more Isocort

than HC. Cheri

Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

MsSquarepants wrote:

> I immediately became less obsessive and since taking cortisol

Cheri,

Have you made the switch from Isocort to HC then?

sol

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am a new member. I joined the group for my nephew. I suspected he has

adrenal problems. . He is 30 year old now. Remember when he was a child, he

was very sensitive and shy. did not do good at school because he was always

tired, could not focus and depressed. Later on exhibited severe OCD. After

conventional doctor did not find him any physical problems, he was referred to

psychiatrists. Since then, he has been heavely drugged. He does not look good

due to side effects of drugs. He gain weight and look stiffs. He wanted to be

normal to go to school and work but he couldn't because severe anxiety, insecure

and brain fog. His parents gave up on him and let goverment takes care of him.

I do want to help this young man. I needs your input how I can help him. Can I

just go ahead finding a lab. to test him. Just don't know how much will cost to

go to see a holistic doctor. Helen

MsSquarepants wrote:

Boy, I am so glad you mentioned that, ! I was never an

obsessive

person until I got really adrenal fatigued and then I was so horribly

obsessed for years. I noticed that when I started taking adrenal glandulars

4 years ago I immediately became less obsessive and since taking cortisol I

am not obsessed at all. In fact I kind of miss it, lol, because I could

really get a lot done if it fit into my obsession. Now, the things I was

obsessed about don't even interest me. Ha!

Re: Val- I have a ? about symtoms I am having -

crying, worring, etc...

Periods seem to be really tough times for most with AF. And obsessing

is definitely a low cortisol symtpom! I have seen it in many of the

peopel I have helped.

--

[Guest guest]

For me I have had some obessive thinking then it got worse it tehn simmered

down for a bit again , now the last three or four months their are certain days

I am

can not take it! I did bring this up to my pdoc and he said maybe he should

switch my add medication to one that is more flexible and not like the I am on

it can have me hyperfocus more than I normally do. The last two days I have been

a mess and then after being on the five day Pred. I was a obessive mess as

well.

When I was on HC for a couple days I did not feel so well. Maybe between that

and a low dose of my add medication it made me feel off.

My Intergrative doctor insists that the natural Prog. helps with that time of

month and the crying and PMS I get but it has not helped me with that. It makes

my skin clearer but I am on it 50 mgs one week prior and 100 mg during and then

off until next cycle.

I do know that the stress I am putting myself through with obessing is giving

me chest pain and I am trying to re-direct my thoughts on the ocean which I

love, etcc.. Tommorow I will hopefully be able to drive to get my results out

the lab because my doctors office would not fax me my labs, although they had

all but the hormones.

Bottom line I am not sure if it is all adrenals but the labs will tell.

a

MsSquarepants wrote:

I am using both right now. Slowly swapping out doses. Still more Isocort

than HC. Cheri

Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

MsSquarepants wrote:

> I immediately became less obsessive and since taking cortisol

Cheri,

Have you made the switch from Isocort to HC then?

sol

[Guest guest]

a

that's a lot of prog cream, 20mg is sufficient

Lynda

RE: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

>

> My Intergrative doctor insists that the natural Prog. helps with

> that time of month and the crying and PMS I get but it has not

> helped me with that. It makes my skin clearer but I am on it 50 mgs

> one week prior and 100 mg during and then off until next cycle.

> a

>

[Guest guest]

These are bioidentical capsules. He told me this is a low dose week beofre

and during 100 mg, I wil tell him on Monday but honestly I am sick and tired of

paying upteen dollars to see him each time and I do NOT have the money to start

all over with a doc that takes no insurance. The docs I have seen that do treat

me as I have Fibro and CFS and they just put on pain pills. I am on SSI I do not

have money to pull from oout of the air. So with that being said as soon as I

get my labs I will post the serum ones and then pray the salivia test can tell

something as it may be skewed due to one of my meds. I have been dealing with

this for four years and this past year I am getting worse. I am not in a good

living situation, it is high strung, but I have NO choice at this time. One can

NOT live on SSI alone. I am taking good advice here and I appreciate yours. I

just can not take that much more. I am isolated, yes Iam blessed ot have a

computer, I am in my 30s and I am a

people person, I am from LA and had ot move to another state to live with my

parenst I am so weak, exhausted and have alot of leg pain, arm pain. I jhave

research so much my head is spinning, Everyone has some different theory.

I find the info. on here great! I just have to go by my labs and other tests

and pray their is some improvement because people say oh it will get better

which is great ,and all ,but it is very hard after feeling SO tired even after

sleeping and dealing with pain and no fun it gets real old and I just do not

have teh $ to see another. I have spent 1000s' already with the one I have and

on Monday I am going to get him in a nice way , but firm to understand since

last Jan, I have made NO improvenment.

Mag, Citrate is helpful, Omega 3, the D but nothing else but maybe the Celexa

is helping. Ido get my add meds can cause further issues but until I can get on

HC w./ o I can not get out of my house .

I know you were just giving me good advice on a simple topic, but I had to

vent because I just am done with the medical community as a whole.

I have friends on a fibromyalgia support group online and I can bet yoyu they

have adrenal fatigue and adrenals out but the are told they have CFS and take

flexril and pain pills because the docs are SO incompent!

Hope you are sleeping well!

a (=

Lynda wrote:

a

that's a lot of prog cream, 20mg is sufficient

Lynda

RE: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

>

> My Intergrative doctor insists that the natural Prog. helps with

> that time of month and the crying and PMS I get but it has not

> helped me with that. It makes my skin clearer but I am on it 50 mgs

> one week prior and 100 mg during and then off until next cycle.

> a

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen,

Would your nephew be open to saliva testing? You can get it done through

www.canaryclub.org

RE: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Hi,

I am a new member. I joined the group for my nephew. I suspected he has

adrenal problems. . He is 30 year old now. Remember when he was a child, he

was very sensitive and shy. did not do good at school because he was always

tired, could not focus and depressed. Later on exhibited severe OCD. After

conventional doctor did not find him any physical problems, he was referred to

psychiatrists. Since then, he has been heavely drugged. He does not look good

due to side effects of drugs. He gain weight and look stiffs. He wanted to be

normal to go to school and work but he couldn't because severe anxiety, insecure

and brain fog. His parents gave up on him and let goverment takes care of him.

I do want to help this young man. I needs your input how I can help him. Can I

just go ahead finding a lab. to test him. Just don't know how much will cost to

go to see a holistic doctor. Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

Forgive me, I'm not up on everyone here - are you on natural thyroid hormones

and adrenal support? If not, adrenal support is the place to begin, after saliva

testing. If you don't have $$$ for testing (believe me, I get that) you can go

to: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info and do Discovery Steps One and

Two there to see the condition of your adrenals.

BTW, I did all of this without doctors. I had one that started me on Armour

thyroid, then I learned everything else here and at the main list. Read ALL of

the emails if you can, the information is invaluable.

Best to you,

[Guest guest]

www.Canaryclub.org

Select Diagnos Tech tests for $141.55

If you are able to order and get him to do the saliva test, you would get

some valuable information.

Shyness was also one of my symptoms which was horrible as a child, got

better for many years when I got better, than worse again when I relapsed

into my worst adrenal fatigue. I have problems with public speaking now and

I used to do it for a living!

Cheri

RE: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Hi,

I am a new member. I joined the group for my nephew. I suspected he has

adrenal problems. . He is 30 year old now. Remember when he was a child, he

was very sensitive and shy. did not do good at school because he was always

tired, could not focus and depressed. Later on exhibited severe OCD. After

conventional doctor did not find him any physical problems, he was referred

to psychiatrists. Since then, he has been heavely drugged. He does not look

good due to side effects of drugs. He gain weight and look stiffs. He wanted

to be normal to go to school and work but he couldn't because severe

anxiety, insecure and brain fog. His parents gave up on him and let

goverment takes care of him. I do want to help this young man. I needs your

input how I can help him. Can I just go ahead finding a lab. to test him.

Just don't know how much will cost to go to see a holistic doctor. Helen

.

[Guest guest]

a,

If memory serves you said you take Adderall? You might like to search

the archives for it. There have been discussions of it here in the past.

Some people have had problems with it, but I can't remember what they

were exactly.

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/amphet_ad.htm do any of the side

effects listed here sound similar to what you are experiencing?

You can also check for interactions between all the meds you currently

take here https://www.aidsmeds.com/cmm/

sol

erica wechsler wrote:

> he said maybe he should switch my add medication to one that is more

flexible and not like the I am on it can have me hyperfocus more than I normally

do.

[Guest guest]

Wondering do I need doctor's order to get it test? Will I be able to understand

the test result or do I need to have him seeing a doctor. What kind of doctor

can he get the scripts which our board were talking about if he has adrenal

problem? He often felt head pressure inside his head but there was no medical

findings. We live in San Francisco area, can anyone give me a recommendation

for a good doctor? My heart SO sick just thinking such a fine young man

handsome/warm hearted has to go through the suffering like this and wasting his

youth like that! Thanks again. Helen

D wrote: Hi Helen,

Would your nephew be open to saliva testing? You can get it done through

www.canaryclub.org

RE: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Hi,

I am a new member. I joined the group for my nephew. I suspected he has adrenal

problems. . He is 30 year old now. Remember when he was a child, he was very

sensitive and shy. did not do good at school because he was always tired, could

not focus and depressed. Later on exhibited severe OCD. After conventional

doctor did not find him any physical problems, he was referred to psychiatrists.

Since then, he has been heavely drugged. He does not look good due to side

effects of drugs. He gain weight and look stiffs. He wanted to be normal to go

to school and work but he couldn't because severe anxiety, insecure and brain

fog. His parents gave up on him and let goverment takes care of him. I do want

to help this young man. I needs your input how I can help him. Can I just go

ahead finding a lab. to test him. Just don't know how much will cost to go to

see a holistic doctor. Helen

[Guest guest]

No docotr's orderes are needed through Canary Club. We can help him

understand the results.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

[Guest guest]

You do not need a doctor. You can order yourself, they will send results

directly to you. You can post the results here and we can guide you.

www.Canaryclub.org

Then select Diagnos Tech as the test, set up a free account, and fill out

the form to get the kit. The kit is free to have sent to you. You don't pay

until AFTER you do the kit and send it back.

Cheri

Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Wondering do I need doctor's order to get it test? Will I be able to

understand the test result or do I need to have him seeing a doctor. What

kind of doctor can he get the scripts which our board were talking about if

he has adrenal problem? He often felt head pressure inside his head but

there was no medical findings. We live in San Francisco area, can anyone

give me a recommendation for a good doctor? My heart SO sick just thinking

such a fine young man handsome/warm hearted has to go through the suffering

like this and wasting his youth like that! Thanks again. Helen

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen,

Cheri and Val already gave you great replies. This is a great list. I was

gone for 4 hours and came back to 102 emails just here.

To give you some hope, once you get test results and help here, and at

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com site, and treat any deficiencies, his mood should

improve greatly. It is a slow process at times, but finding these lists will be

a wonderful help to you.

Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Wondering do I need doctor's order to get it test? Will I be able to

understand the test result or do I need to have him seeing a doctor. What kind

of doctor can he get the scripts which our board were talking about if he has

adrenal problem? He often felt head pressure inside his head but there was no

medical findings. We live in San Francisco area, can anyone give me a

recommendation for a good doctor? My heart SO sick just thinking such a fine

young man handsome/warm hearted has to go through the suffering like this and

wasting his youth like that! Thanks again. Helen

[Guest guest]

Sol,

Thanks for the links, that was very nice of you. I have a good pdoc and we are

going to switch somethings. In the meds I do take they are low does.

I also finally got some sleep so I am better today.

Hopefully with the serum results I just got back and the salvia testing I do

Dec. 3 I can get a clearer picture as to what can help and then GOD willing I

can be weaned down off the medications.

Thanks,

a

sol wrote:

a,

If memory serves you said you take Adderall? You might like to search

the archives for it. There have been discussions of it here in the past.

Some people have had problems with it, but I can't remember what they

were exactly.

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/amphet_ad.htm do any of the side

effects listed here sound similar to what you are experiencing?

You can also check for interactions between all the meds you currently

take here https://www.aidsmeds.com/cmm/

sol

erica wechsler wrote:

> he said maybe he should switch my add medication to one that is more flexible

and not like the I am on it can have me hyperfocus more than I normally do.

[Guest guest]

I take adderal and have no problems or side effects now that my

cortisol is being treated. Before taking cortef I did have a few side

effects but not anymore.

English

> > he said maybe he should switch my add medication to one that is

more flexible and not like the I am on it can have me hyperfocus more

than I normally do.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

Only hope I could find this group much earlier. I almost cried(as the

matter of fact i did cry) that his parent gave up on him and he is now living in

a goverment support care home with five powerful drugs. I just have him coming

to my home to cook good healthy lunch for him. Just felt so powerless seeing how

drugs have done sooo.. much damage to him that he gain much weight and he looks

stiff/slow and speaking kind of slurry. Not sure if is it too late to rescue

him. I am so angry that his parent/relative all opposing my advice of

alternative treatment also I was opposed by his doctor. You know all

conventional doctor love to give DRUGS. Since he is taking five drugs for

his anxiety/depression, could the test will be accurate with some many drug

chemical in his blood? Could adrenal support/Armor will ever be able to help

him? I know this is a complicate case. I just think he need first do detox how

drugs haD polluted him. Just don't know how CAN I walk

him to better path....Helen .

D wrote:

Hi Helen,

Cheri and Val already gave you great replies. This is a great list. I was gone

for 4 hours and came back to 102 emails just here.

To give you some hope, once you get test results and help here, and at

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com site, and treat any deficiencies, his mood should

improve greatly. It is a slow process at times, but finding these lists will be

a wonderful help to you.

Re: Obsessing - An adrenal fatigue symptom

Wondering do I need doctor's order to get it test? Will I be able to understand

the test result or do I need to have him seeing a doctor. What kind of doctor

can he get the scripts which our board were talking about if he has adrenal

problem? He often felt head pressure inside his head but there was no medical

findings. We live in San Francisco area, can anyone give me a recommendation for

a good doctor? My heart SO sick just thinking such a fine young man

handsome/warm hearted has to go through the suffering like this and wasting his

youth like that! Thanks again. Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen,

O, it hurts. I hurt with you for your nephew. I'm not sure about all of the

meds he takes. It will not be easy to get the doctors to get him off of them.

I just got my saliva test kit and I think it says that anti depressants may

interfere wth results, but please ask that of Val or someone who knows more than

I.

He probably canot go off of the meds, but maybe you can ascertain if he has

adrenal fatigue by doing Discovery steps One and Two at

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com.adrenal-info. Then check his pupils to see how

they react. There are instructions for this on that same webpage. Will he take

his basal temps and write them down for you? I couldn't afford the saliva

testing and I'm treating by symptoms, BPs and temps.

He is fortunate to have you in his corner.

Best wishes,

----- Original Message -----

From: Helen Wang

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:37 PM

Hi, .

Only hope I could find this group much earlier. I almost cried(as the

matter of fact i did cry) that his parent gave up on him and he is now living in

a goverment support care home with five powerful drugs. I just have him coming

to my home to cook good healthy lunch for him. Just felt so powerless seeing how

drugs have done sooo.. much damage to him that he gain much weight and he looks

stiff/slow and speaking kind of slurry. Not sure if is it too late to rescue

him. I am so angry that his parent/relative all opposing my advice of

alternative treatment also I was opposed by his doctor. You know all

conventional doctor love to give DRUGS. Since he is taking five drugs for

his anxiety/depression, could the test will be accurate with some many drug

chemical in his blood? Could adrenal support/Armor will ever be able to help

him? I know this is a complicate case. I just think he need first do detox how

drugs haD polluted him. Just don't know how CAN I walk

him to better path....Helen .