Re: How to take temps and what to do next?

[Guest guest]

Does it really matter which way you take your temp as long as you do it

the same way all the time? I don't think so. I take mine orally.

I don't trust digital thermometers either.

B

God Bless America!

One nation under God

----- Original Message -----

>I have been taking temps under the arm. I think it has been inaccurate. I

> did a test under the arm which was 100.1 and under the tongue which was

> 98.6

> I think I will do it orally from now on. I also think I need to invest

> in

> a mercury thermometer. I do not trust this digital thing.

[Guest guest]

If you can find a place that sells mercury thermometers, let me know!

I thought they've been banned.

P

>

> I have been taking temps under the arm. I think it has been

inaccurate. I

> did a test under the arm which was 100.1 and under the tongue which

was 98.6

> I think I will do it orally from now on. I also think I need to

invest in

> a mercury thermometer. I do not trust this digital thing. If

temps are 98

> 6, does that mean I need to hold the Armour steady? I know I am

probably

> still hypoT. The doc wants to work me up to 3 grains and I am only

@ 2. If

> I do increase it, will temps automatically rise or might they stay

steady?

> Thanks so much everyone! Merry Christmas.

>

>

> Ann s

> www.janesjewel.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I bought a dozen mercury thermometers in Ebay!

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[Guest guest]

> From everything I read you want to use a mercury thermometer

> instead of digital because it is more accurate.

....but very dependent upon being given enough time to equilibrate. How

do you solve this?

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Ann,

From everything I read you want to use a mercury thermometer instead of

digital because it is more accurate.

As far as taking temps, for adrenals you want to do it orally three times a

day, starting 3 hours after you wake. Dr. Rind uses this. www.drrind.com

For adrenals, you take it once a day when you first wake up under the

armpit. This is what Dr. and Broda use.

www.wilsonssyndrome.com That website also sells mercury thermometers. I also

recommend downloading their free manual because you will learn TONS from

reading it.

I do both because my adrenal graphing tells me how steady my adrenals are by

taking the oral temps three times a day and averaging, and under the arm

tells me what is going on with my thyroid. Interestingly, my thyroid temps

are always lower than the adrenal average.

Cheri

How to take temps and what to do next?

I have been taking temps under the arm. I think it has been inaccurate. I

did a test under the arm which was 100.1 and under the tongue which was

98.6

I think I will do it orally from now on. I also think I need to invest in

a mercury thermometer. I do not trust this digital thing. If temps are 98

6, does that mean I need to hold the Armour steady? I know I am probably

still hypoT. The doc wants to work me up to 3 grains and I am only @ 2. If

I do increase it, will temps automatically rise or might they stay steady?

Thanks so much everyone! Merry Christmas.

Ann s

www.janesjewel.com

.

[Guest guest]

I am not sure what you mean? Could you explain further? Cheri

Re: How to take temps and what to do next?

> From everything I read you want to use a mercury thermometer

> instead of digital because it is more accurate.

...but very dependent upon being given enough time to equilibrate. How

do you solve this?

Rosie

[Guest guest]

>

> I am not sure what you mean? Could you explain further? Cheri

I mean that you know when a digi is finished because it beeps. If you

haven't given a mercury thermometer enough time, you will have a

falsely low reading. But if you leave it under the tongue for longer

than necessary you will have a falsely high reading because of the

muscle action of the tongue (I've checked this with my digi and that's

what happens). Just wondering, with those two variables, how you get a

useful result.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Rosie,

Do you have some documentation of that? I use a mercury therm. and when

it is done going up, it stops. It won't go up any more no matter how

long it stays in my mouth.

Thanks,

K

>

> I mean that you know when a digi is finished because it beeps. If

you

> haven't given a mercury thermometer enough time, you will have a

> falsely low reading. But if you leave it under the tongue for longer

> than necessary you will have a falsely high reading because of the

> muscle action of the tongue (I've checked this with my digi and

that's

> what happens). Just wondering, with those two variables, how you get

a

> useful result.

>

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

The problem with digitals is that they can beep, but still not be at

maximum temperature. I tested this by leaving the digital in after it

beeped. It continued rising. So I bought a Geratherm at Walgreens. It

looks like a mercury thermometer but it's not mercury in it. I leave

it in for 10 minutes each time orally. I minimize tongue movement by

holding it up with one hand while reading all these posts.

I think if you compare the two types, you will always get a higher

reading on the mercury, because the digitals beep too early and hence

give you falsely low readings.

Barb

P.S. Can you change " spore_frog " to say Rosie? Helps me follow the

threads better. Thanks.

" spore_frog " wrote:

>

> I mean that you know when a digi is finished because it beeps. If

you

> haven't given a mercury thermometer enough time, you will have a

> falsely low reading. But if you leave it under the tongue for longer

> than necessary you will have a falsely high reading because of the

> muscle action of the tongue (I've checked this with my digi and

that's

> what happens). Just wondering, with those two variables, how you get

a

> useful result.

>

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I time it to four minutes which is what my thermometer says to do. I

have a timer next to me when I do it. As far as tongue action, I don't move

my tongue when I do it so I don't have an issue there.

Cheri

Re: How to take temps and what to do next?

>

> I am not sure what you mean? Could you explain further? Cheri

I mean that you know when a digi is finished because it beeps. If you

haven't given a mercury thermometer enough time, you will have a

falsely low reading. But if you leave it under the tongue for longer

than necessary you will have a falsely high reading because of the

muscle action of the tongue (I've checked this with my digi and that's

what happens). Just wondering, with those two variables, how you get a

useful result.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

I am not getting anywhere with these replies. Could you guys please post a

separate question to the group about this stuff? I think my questions have

gotten lost in a thermometer debate. I, for one, cannot find a mercury

thermometer at the drug store. I tried. They told they they have not sold

those for years. I know the STTM website does recommend using mercury, but

Dr. Rind says to use a digital. Hmmmm. Thanks everyone.

Ann s

www.janesjewel.com

[Guest guest]

So what do I do next? Hold my dose? Raise my dose?

Ann s

www.janesjewel.com

[Guest guest]

Try Ebay for the mercury thermometers.

K

>

> I am not getting anywhere with these replies. Could you guys

please post a

> separate question to the group about this stuff? I think my

questions have

> gotten lost in a thermometer debate. I, for one, cannot find a

mercury

> thermometer at the drug store. I tried. They told they they have

not sold

> those for years. I know the STTM website does recommend using

mercury, but

> Dr. Rind says to use a digital. Hmmmm. Thanks everyone.

>

>

> Ann s

> www.janesjewel.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>So what do I do next? Hold my dose? Raise my dose? <<

PLEASE, when this is all that you post how can I answer you? I answer 20-30

people at a time when I read posts. PLEASE post some details with your questions

so I do nto give you wrong info trying to remember what oyu are talking about.

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[Guest guest]

>

> Rosie,

>

> Do you have some documentation of that? I use a mercury therm. and

> when it is done going up, it stops. It won't go up any more no

> matter how long it stays in my mouth.

It's what Dr Rind says:

" Temperatures are measured orally. Make sure the thermometer is

placed deep under the tongue. Take three temperatures approximately

three hours apart, starting approximately three hours after waking

up. For example, if one wakes up at 6 AM, measure temperatures around

9AM, 12 Noon, and 3 PM. Try to avoid taking temperatures after

activity or eating and drinking for at least 20 minutes. Even

climbing a flight of stairs can raise one's temperature for short

period of time. Taking one's temperature several times in a row will

yield temperatures that rise each time. This is usually due to the

muscular activity of the tongue and mouth. So, take only one reading.

I have found digital oral thermometers most appropriate for

monitoring metabolism. There are many good models available. I have

found the Lumiscope Digital Thermometer to be one of the most

accurate for the price and use these with my patients. I do not

recommend mercury thermometers because: they expose you and the

environment to toxic mercury when they break; they are too slow; and,

the accuracy depends on leaving them in your mouth the same length of

time each time you measure. I do not recommend axillary temperatures

because the axillae are relatively cooler and more variable in people

with stressed adrenals. Ear thermometers are the least accurate of

all "

I tested this myself and found it to be true - taking several

measurements one after another gave successively higher readings.

HTH

Rosie/5

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Rosie, for looking this up.

K

[Guest guest]

I have been a nurse and taken temps for 34 years using all kinds of

thermometers. This is the first time I have ever heard that one. And I don't

believe a word of it. A mercury thermometer can not give you a false high

reading.

B

God Bless America!

One nation under God

>

> If you

> haven't given a mercury thermometer enough time, you will have a

> falsely low reading. But if you leave it under the tongue for longer

> than necessary you will have a falsely high reading because of the

> muscle action of the tongue

[Guest guest]

Walmart cares a good non mercury Thermometer from Germany

it works just like the mercury ones.

The brand is Getratherm cost is $8.00 out here in the boonies.

Last Feb had 3 teeth incorrectly removed with mercury in them and

end up hospitalized have not been able to function since.

Therefore got rid of all the mercury in my home. Shocking many

soaps and cleansers have mercury as well as light bulbs.

http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100125 & id=prod396857

From: Ann

cannot find a mercury

thermometer at the drug store. I tried.

[Guest guest]

Hello

Someone else mentioned dental work can cause big problems if mercury is

released. How can this be avoided? Do you know?

Thank's

Pat

Re: Re: How to take temps and what to do next?

Walmart cares a good non mercury Thermometer from Germany

it works just like the mercury ones.

The brand is Getratherm cost is $8.00 out here in the boonies.

Last Feb had 3 teeth incorrectly removed with mercury in them and

end up hospitalized have not been able to function since.

Therefore got rid of all the mercury in my home. Shocking many

soaps and cleansers have mercury as well as light bulbs.

http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100125 & id=prod396857

From: Ann

cannot find a mercury

thermometer at the drug store. I tried.

[Guest guest]

Can you give us a list of those cleaning products and soaps that contain

mercury?

[Guest guest]

Pat,

If it is done correctly using the Huggins protocol.

HAL HUGGINS FATHER OF MERCURY-FREE DENTISTRY

He is a doctor in Colorado

These

These are the most important procedures to follow. Find a dentist who

follows it as close as possible:

Rubber dam, high-powered vacuum, continuous water, oxygen nose tubes, air

filters, ionizers, amalgam cut into four pieces (not drilled out), face

cloth, IV conscious sedation for those who want it, vitamin C IV drip,

measure amperage and polarity of amalgams and remove in order of the least

path of resistance per quadrant (highest negative, lowest negative, highest

positive, lowest positive), follow biocompatibility charts if supplied.

http://www.pragmaticsw.com/drhuggins/SE_Library_HugginsProtocol.htm

http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/testimonials.php

From: pat

Hello

Someone else mentioned dental work can cause big problems if mercury is

released. How can this be avoided? Do you know?

Thank's

Pat

[Guest guest]

> If it is done correctly using the Huggins protocol.

> HAL HUGGINS FATHER OF MERCURY-FREE DENTISTRY

> These are the most important procedures to follow. Find a dentist

> who follows it as close as possible:

> Rubber dam, high-powered vacuum, continuous water, oxygen nose

tubes, > air filters, ionizers, amalgam cut into four pieces (not

drilled

> out), face cloth, IV conscious sedation for those who want it,

> vitamin C IV drip, measure amperage and polarity of amalgams and

> remove in order of the least path of resistance per quadrant

(highest > negative, lowest negative, highest positive, lowest

positive), follow > biocompatibility charts if supplied.

> http://www.pragmaticsw.com/drhuggins/SE_Library_HugginsProtocol.htm

> http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/testimonials.php

This is exactly the kind of post that I'd like to keep & flag as

interesting. Anybody know how to do this pls? I know it will stay

in the archives but I won't necessarily be able to find it (even if I

remember to look).

Perhaps this info could be tarted up & put in th Files?

Rosie, 5

[Guest guest]

You can save it as a file in your documents folder on your computer.

sol

Rosiebint wrote:

>

> This is exactly the kind of post that I'd like to keep & flag as

> interesting. Anybody know how to do this pls?

[Guest guest]

> >

> > This is exactly the kind of post that I'd like to keep & flag as

> > interesting. Anybody know how to do this pls?

Ah yes. Guess I was having a duh moment.

Rosie/5

[Guest guest]

I am creating a separate folder in my inbox, naming it with something like

`advices` and moving these type of posts there.

bw

Nil

Re: How to take temps and what to do next?

> If it is done correctly using the Huggins protocol.

> HAL HUGGINS FATHER OF MERCURY-FREE DENTISTRY

> These are the most important procedures to follow. Find a dentist

> who follows it as close as possible:

> Rubber dam, high-powered vacuum, continuous water, oxygen nose

tubes, > air filters, ionizers, amalgam cut into four pieces (not

drilled

> out), face cloth, IV conscious sedation for those who want it,

> vitamin C IV drip, measure amperage and polarity of amalgams and

> remove in order of the least path of resistance per quadrant

(highest > negative, lowest negative, highest positive, lowest

positive), follow > biocompatibility charts if supplied.

> http://www.pragmaticsw.com/drhuggins/SE_Library_HugginsProtocol.htm

> http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/testimonials.php

This is exactly the kind of post that I'd like to keep & flag as

interesting. Anybody know how to do this pls? I know it will stay

in the archives but I won't necessarily be able to find it (even if I

remember to look).

Perhaps this info could be tarted up & put in th Files?

Rosie, 5