valerie are you on adrenal support?

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hi valerie just wondering are you on adrenal support?and if so how are

you doing?can you give me alittle background on your condition,i seen

that you say you have high cortisol,treatment?

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>>hi valerie just wondering are you on adrenal support?and if so how are

you doing?can you give me alittle background on your condition,i seen

that you say you have high cortisol,treatment?<<

Yes I am on HC. I am on 17.5mg and I have high AM cortisll and almost none at

noon the n normal the rest of the day. I seem to need a bedtime an d morning

doses more than anything but I still take 4 doses a day, 5 at 6AM, 5 at 10AM,

2.5 at 2PM and 5 at bedtime. The 5 at bedtime is needed to lower my AM cortiosl

a bit and this seems ot work.,

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>

> >>hi valerie just wondering are you on adrenal support?and if so

how are

> you doing?can you give me alittle background on your condition,i

seen

> that you say you have high cortisol,treatment?<<

>

> Yes I am on HC. I am on 17.5mg and I have high AM cortisll and

almost none at noon the n normal the rest of the day. I seem to need

a bedtime an d morning doses more than anything but I still take 4

doses a day, 5 at 6AM, 5 at 10AM, 2.5 at 2PM and 5 at bedtime. The 5

at bedtime is needed to lower my AM cortiosl a bit and this seems ot

work.,

>

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>how do you have high cortisol in the am if your taking h.c?can hc

lower high cortisol?

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>

> >>hi valerie just wondering are you on adrenal support?and if so

how are

> you doing?can you give me alittle background on your condition,i

seen

> that you say you have high cortisol,treatment?<<

>

> Yes I am on HC. I am on 17.5mg and I have high AM cortisll and

almost none at noon the n normal the rest of the day. I seem to need

a bedtime an d morning doses more than anything but I still take 4

doses a day, 5 at 6AM, 5 at 10AM, 2.5 at 2PM and 5 at bedtime. The 5

at bedtime is needed to lower my AM cortiosl a bit and this seems ot

work.,

>

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>how do you have high cortisol in the am if your taking h.c?can hc

lower high cortisol?

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>>how do you have high cortisol in the am if your taking h.c?can hc

lower high cortisol?<<

I have high cortisll ONLY in thew AM, it is low by noon. It is a juggling act

sort of the same as block & replace which can be done in hyperthyroidism. I

also have recently learned of cortisol resistance which would mean it takes more

cortiosl for the body to get the same benefits that others get from less. I

suspect I may also be in that category.

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,

How does the high AM level of cortisol manifest itself? How do you know it's

high in the AM?

Pamela

wrote:

>>how do you have high cortisol in the am if your taking h.c?can hc

lower high cortisol?<<

I have high cortisll ONLY in thew AM, it is low by noon. It is a juggling act

sort of the same as block & replace which can be done in hyperthyroidism. I also

have recently learned of cortisol resistance which would mean it takes more

cortiosl for the body to get the same benefits that others get from less. I

suspect I may also be in that category.

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Well I did labs two years running and got the same results an nwo I can

track it with my glucose meter. It is actually quite accurate.

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, Can you describe the 'feeling' of high AM levels?

wrote: Well I did labs two

years running and got the same results an nwo I can

track it with my glucose meter. It is actually quite accurate.

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I can't tell by feelign whne I am high cortisol. I might have swellignin

my fingers which is unusual for me in the AM but usually I wake early

with plenty of energy.

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So, it is a good thing. Nothing wrong with lots of energy in the morning!

wrote: I can't tell by

feelign whne I am high cortisol. I might have swellignin

my fingers which is unusual for me in the AM but usually I wake early

with plenty of energy.

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>>So, it is a good thing. Nothing wrong with lots of energy in the morning!<<

No not good energy. And it si destroying my muscle tone. I can feel my muscles

getting weaker all the time. I can;t do things that I could even a year ago. It

also means I have to take extra insulin to bring the glucose down. HIGH cortisol

is very destructive to the body though it takes a long time ot do the damage it

si BAD.

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Val,

So you are not on HC? I think once you see can post my serum labs I may not be

able to to take the HC. I was better on the Medrol apck I think then on the HC

when I was on for a short time. Are you not on HC due to be diabetic as well.

a

wrote:

>>So, it is a good thing. Nothing wrong with lots of energy in the morning!<<

No not good energy. And it si destroying my muscle tone. I can feel my muscles

getting weaker all the time. I can;t do things that I could even a year ago. It

also means I have to take extra insulin to bring the glucose down. HIGH cortisol

is very destructive to the body though it takes a long time ot do the damage it

si BAD.

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Were you not on a much higher dose of HC at one point? If so, how long

were you on the higher dose before you began weaning down, and are you

still weaning down from 17.5?

thanks,

sol

wrote:

> I have high cortisll ONLY in thew AM, it is low by noon. It is a

> juggling act sort of the same as block & replace which can be done in

> hyperthyroidism. I also have recently learned of cortisol resistance

> which would mean it takes more cortiosl for the body to get the same

> benefits that others get from less. I suspect I may also be in that

> category.

>

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>>So you are not on HC? I think once you see can post my serum labs I may not

be able to to take the HC. I was better on the Medrol apck I think then on the

HC when I was on for a short time. Are you not on HC due to be diabetic as

well.<<

Actua;lly HC lowers my glucose! When I forget a dose my glucose in 12 hours is

MUCH higher. Yes I am on 17.5mg HC right now but have been as high as 60MG.

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>>Were you not on a much higher dose of HC at one point? If so, how long

were you on the higher dose before you began weaning down, and are you

still weaning down from 17.5?<<

I was on 30MG for most of 2 years adn have been off it twice. First time I felt

good till a major stressor happened, the second time I got off it wiht Florinef

btu then started major fluid retention so had to get off Floeinef and back on

HC, I am taoering slowly off it again this time but will probably not be totally

off it till mid February UNLESS I get ill. Last Winter was rough with illnesses

for me, I am praying I do nto start that again this year.

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>>What do you do to control high AM cortisol<<

5MG HC at bedtime helps control this. Also you shoudl be checked to see if oyu

have sleep apnea as this can be a cause of very high Am cortiosl too.

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Val,

How can you sleep when you take 5mg at night? Doesn't that keep you

wired? When I take my 5mg first thing in the morning, I'm wired

until it's time to take my next dose--and I'm only on a total of

12.5mg now. Maybe my body is reacting to the 25ugm Levoxyl and 5ugm

cytomel dumping into my system???

P

>

> >>What do you do to control high AM cortisol<<

>

> 5MG HC at bedtime helps control this. Also you shoudl be checked to

see if oyu have sleep apnea as this can be a cause of very high Am

cortiosl too.

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the 5MG at bedtime puts me to sleep and I do not sleep well without it.

When I have tapered off HC in the past this is thew lats dose I give up!

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I have the same issue.

Cheri /7

Re: Re: valerie are you on adrenal support?

Hi val

What do you do to control high AM cortisol?I also have low muscle tone. at

this point can not lift more than half lbs. and I can not carry top part of

my body. It is too heavy for my back muscles to carry. I am continually

getting massage to improve muscle tone.

bw

Nil

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That depends on the individual and how the HC supresses the adrenals.

Right now I am taking 5 - 5 - 5 and just went to this today, I take 5 at

5am 5 at 10 am and then 5 at bedtime.

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Val

What would be the hc dosage for morning if one is high at AM?

thanks a lot.

Nil/7

Re: Re: valerie are you on adrenal support?

>>how do you have high cortisol in the am if your taking h.c?can hc

lower high cortisol?<<

I have high cortisll ONLY in thew AM, it is low by noon. It is a juggling act

sort of the same as block & replace which can be done in hyperthyroidism. I

also have recently learned of cortisol resistance which would mean it takes more

cortiosl for the body to get the same benefits that others get from less. I

suspect I may also be in that category.

--

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Hi val

What do you do to control high AM cortisol?I also have low muscle tone. at this

point can not lift more than half lbs. and I can not carry top part of my body.

It is too heavy for my back muscles to carry. I am continually getting massage

to improve muscle tone.

bw

Nil

Re: Re: valerie are you on adrenal support?

>>So, it is a good thing. Nothing wrong with lots of energy in the morning!<<

No not good energy. And it si destroying my muscle tone. I can feel my

muscles getting weaker all the time. I can;t do things that I could even a year

ago. It also means I have to take extra insulin to bring the glucose down. HIGH

cortisol is very destructive to the body though it takes a long time ot do the

damage it si BAD.

--

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