Re: Transition to Armour failed; need help re what to do now.

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Your adrenals still look unstable to me. Should be within .2 degrees. And

yes, having a high temp but feeling cold is something I experience too. I

would increase your dosage of either Isocort or HC, whichever you have

access to and keep graphing.

I am taking 30 mg Isocort which I worked up to over a two month period and

I take it broken down 4 times a day. I have to take it every 3 hours in

early day or I get low cortisol symptoms. Night time I am pretty much fine

after 6 pm.

As far as quitting the Armour or not, Val would be more helpful there.

Cheri

Transition to Armour failed; need help re what to

do now.

Per Dr Peatfield's instructions, I started Armour on Sunday. Half a

grain sublingually in the morning. I felt no different Sunday, felt

a bit different yesterday (nervy, anxious, jumpy, with a weird

pressure feeling in my head & eyes), and very much more so today.

So I reckon my adrenals are still tanked.

Many thanks,

Rosie

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[Guest guest]

>>W 97.1 (mean of 3)

T 97.1 (mean of 3)

F 97.6 (mean of 4)

S 97.9 (mean of 2)

S 97.5 (mean of 2)

M 97.3 (just the one)

That's low & unstable, isn't it? <<

Yes I would up the adrenal support and restart Armoru a few days after that.,

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> >>W 97.1 (mean of 3)

> T 97.1 (mean of 3)

> F 97.6 (mean of 4)

> S 97.9 (mean of 2)

> S 97.5 (mean of 2)

> M 97.3 (just the one)

>

> That's low & unstable, isn't it? <<

>

> Yes I would up the adrenal support and restart Armoru a few days

after that.,

Can you give me a sensible schedule pls?

How does 5mg@8am/5mg@noon/5mg@4pm sound?

Ta

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Sorry to butt in..I'm confused, is the right time to take temps the

first 5 days of our period?

Don't know what I'd have done if I hadn't found this forum yesterday,

I felt so alone and scared.

Thanks,

Sara

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>

> >

> > >>W 97.1 (mean of 3)

> > T 97.1 (mean of 3)

> > F 97.6 (mean of 4)

> > S 97.9 (mean of 2)

> > S 97.5 (mean of 2)

> > M 97.3 (just the one)

> >

> > That's low & unstable, isn't it? <<

> >

> > Yes I would up the adrenal support and restart Armoru a few days

> after that.,

>

> Can you give me a sensible schedule pls?

>

> How does 5mg@8am/5mg@noon/5mg@4pm sound?

>

> Ta

>

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

How does 5mg@8am/5mg@noon/5mg@4pm sound?

There is no cortisol rythm in this doseing and most peopel do best on 4 doses a

day. Though on thi low amoutn yu may not need a bedtime dose YET. I would go to

7.5 - 5 - 2.5

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> Sorry to butt in..I'm confused, is the right time to take temps the

> first 5 days of our period?

YES.

Actually you can take it from Day 1 of your cycle (the day bleeding

starts) right up to the day you ovulate (which is usually but not

always roundabout Day 14). This is because when you ovulate, your

temperature rises & remains higher for the rest of your cycle & if you

take your temperature during the luteal phase of your cycle you are not

comparing like with like.

The usual advice is to take it during Days 1-5 of your cycle so that

you are very unlikely to be messing the info up with post-ovulatory

temps. However if you know when you ovulate you can stretch that Day 1-

5 window out to include as many days after that as you know are pre-

ovulatory, if that makes sense. For instance, I ovulate on Day 19. So

I can take my temps on Days 1-18.

I only know this stuff because I've kept charts for twelve years.

Charting gives a lot of information and appeals to the anal retentive

in me. And, as it turns out, makes taking temps for thyroid/adrenal

purposes easier too.

> Don't know what I'd have done if I hadn't found this forum yesterday,

> I felt so alone and scared.

We're all in the same boat feeling alone and scared so don't be afraid

to ask any questions. Everybody here is caring and helpful.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Rosie for that great explanation x

>

>

> >

> > Sorry to butt in..I'm confused, is the right time to take temps

the

> > first 5 days of our period?

>

> YES.

>

> Actually you can take it from Day 1 of your cycle (the day bleeding

> starts) right up to the day you ovulate (which is usually but not

> always roundabout Day 14). This is because when you ovulate, your

> temperature rises & remains higher for the rest of your cycle & if

you

> take your temperature during the luteal phase of your cycle you are

not

> comparing like with like.

>

> The usual advice is to take it during Days 1-5 of your cycle so

that

> you are very unlikely to be messing the info up with post-ovulatory

> temps. However if you know when you ovulate you can stretch that

Day 1-

> 5 window out to include as many days after that as you know are pre-

> ovulatory, if that makes sense. For instance, I ovulate on Day

19. So

> I can take my temps on Days 1-18.

>

> I only know this stuff because I've kept charts for twelve years.

> Charting gives a lot of information and appeals to the anal

retentive

> in me. And, as it turns out, makes taking temps for

thyroid/adrenal

> purposes easier too.

>

> > Don't know what I'd have done if I hadn't found this forum

yesterday,

> > I felt so alone and scared.

>

> We're all in the same boat feeling alone and scared so don't be

afraid

> to ask any questions. Everybody here is caring and helpful.

>

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

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> How does 5mg@8am/5mg@noon/5mg@4pm sound?

>

> There is no cortisol rythm in this doseing and most peopel do best

on 4 doses a day. Though on thi low amoutn yu may not need a bedtime

dose YET. I would go to 7.5 - 5 - 2.5

That's great, thank you. So 7.5 in the morning, 5 at noon, and 2.5

at 4pm-ish? That's 15mg a day.

I wonder how I wil know if that is enough. I also wonder how I will

know if I need a bedtime dose.

In a previous thread you said you thought I needed to be on about

30mg a day....

Just to be totally clear, do you think I should resume the thyroxine?

Ta,

Rosie

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>>That's great, thank you. So 7.5 in the morning, 5 at noon, and 2.5

at 4pm-ish? That's 15mg a day.

I wonder how I wil know if that is enough. I also wonder how I will

know if I need a bedtime dose.<<

Are you following the ramp up directions in the files section? It is listed

under How to treat Adrenals. You should be graphing your temps per

www.drrind.com, please read his directions and start taking temps as that is how

you know when you are high enough wiht HC.

>>In a previous thread you said you thought I needed to be on about

30mg a day....

Just to be totally clear, do you think I should resume the thyroxine?<<

Yes, this is just one step along the way. You must raise HC slowly or you can

have a thyroid dump, even when not on thyroid yet. I would not start thyroid

until your temps stabilize using Dr Rind';s method I just told you about.

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