Re: Almost instant response to goitrophens?

[Guest guest]

>> Their

opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

to have an effect. After today I don't know.<<

LONG time ago in my Syncrap days I tested this out on myself. I drank a quart of

spy milk the dsay before thyroid testing. My thyroid wa HALF what it normally

was on that dose. not a bucket and I think the goitrogen effects differ for

different foods, but it certainly could be POART of it, the pther part being you

just are not quite there yet with the HC.

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[Guest guest]

Yes. Peanuts are on my avoid list. For one thing, they are highly

susceptible to mold. For another, a lot of hypo people cannot tolerate them.

Almonds and walnuts from good sources are better alternatives.

Unfortunately, most mixes have peanuts which is why I make my own.

Cheri

Almost instant response to goitrophens?

I was feeling decent today - fair amount of energy despite not

sleeping enough for past few nights, no blatant hypoT symptoms like

hypo headache, muscle aches, brain fog or sore neck. At 3PM I needed

a snack so I ate several handfuls of mixed nuts, raisins and a few

M & Ms (trail-mix like snack) - mostly peanuts though. At 4:30 I took

my third dose of 5mg of HC and ate some more nuts to have something in

my stomach and walked out of the office with decent energy. Within 30

minutes, I was tired, hypo headache, left arm and hand aching, sides

of neck hurting - all symptoms that I now associate with being very

hypoT. Is it possible that eating too many peanuts today do that? I

also had a Luna bar earlier in the day and the protein source in those

is soy which is also goitrophenic (sp?)? I had an argument with my

wife and MIL the nutritionist over Thanksgiving over how much of such

foods one would have to eat before it makes a difference. Their

opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

to have an effect. After today I don't know.

[Guest guest]

Oh, and yes, soy in the those food bars can be potent. I would avoid that.

There are tons like Lara bars that do not have soy.

Cheri

Almost instant response to goitrophens?

I was feeling decent today - fair amount of energy despite not

sleeping enough for past few nights, no blatant hypoT symptoms like

hypo headache, muscle aches, brain fog or sore neck. At 3PM I needed

a snack so I ate several handfuls of mixed nuts, raisins and a few

M & Ms (trail-mix like snack) - mostly peanuts though. At 4:30 I took

my third dose of 5mg of HC and ate some more nuts to have something in

my stomach and walked out of the office with decent energy. Within 30

minutes, I was tired, hypo headache, left arm and hand aching, sides

of neck hurting - all symptoms that I now associate with being very

hypoT. Is it possible that eating too many peanuts today do that? I

also had a Luna bar earlier in the day and the protein source in those

is soy which is also goitrophenic (sp?)? I had an argument with my

wife and MIL the nutritionist over Thanksgiving over how much of such

foods one would have to eat before it makes a difference. Their

opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

to have an effect. After today I don't know.

.

[Guest guest]

I read once somewhere that a person stopped a hyperthyroid episode by

eating raw cabbage.

sol

jasrich wrote:

> Is it possible that eating too many peanuts today do that? I

> also had a Luna bar earlier in the day and the protein source in those

> is soy which is also goitrophenic (sp?)? I had an argument with my

> wife and MIL the nutritionist over Thanksgiving over how much of such

> foods one would have to eat before it makes a difference. Their

> opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

> to have an effect. After today I don't know.

>

[Guest guest]

,

Tell them that may very well be true for a healthy person

without thyroid and adrenal problems. However for

us it is best to abstain from all of these items until we are

stable on medication and doing well. Then you many be able

to add a few things that you really miss several times a week.

If the item is cooked it is said to have less effect. Personally

for now all of those items are off my list as feel it is not in my

best interest to consume foods that are counterproductive to

my increasing Armour thus achieving a semblance of feeling

well.

From: jasrich

Their

opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

to have an effect. After today I don't know.

[Guest guest]

Have your wife and MIL read " The Magic Bean " by Dr. Tim O'Shea.

http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/magic_bean.php

Linn

>

> >> Their

> opinion is that it would take eating a bucket full of tofu or similar

> to have an effect. After today I don't know.<<

>

> LONG time ago in my Syncrap days I tested this out on myself. I

drank a quart of spy milk the dsay before thyroid testing. My thyroid

wa HALF what it normally was on that dose. not a bucket and I think

the goitrogen effects differ for different foods, but it certainly

could be POART of it, the pther part being you just are not quite

there yet with the HC.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I proved it yesterday and my wife pointed out that the nuts

weren't cooked like veggies and tofu would be and that each of them

have water content that the nuts don't. It was really my MIL who I

think was taken aback when I declined to eat tofu as part of a meal

and pointed out that I needed to watch how much soy I eat and that she

cooks with a lot of it already (Taiwanese). She then went for a walk

with two dietician friends and they had a good laugh about how much

tofu I would need to eat for it to have that kind of effect. I'll do

what I need to do now. Unfortunately I have a huge stock of Luna bars

that I bought b/c they're gluten free, and they're tasty, but the

protein source is soy. Now I need to look at Lara bars which I have

had before and they tasted like tar.

>

> ,

>

> Tell them that may very well be true for a healthy person

> without thyroid and adrenal problems. However for

> us it is best to abstain from all of these items until we are

> stable on medication and doing well. Then you many be able

> to add a few things that you really miss several times a week.

>

> If the item is cooked it is said to have less effect. Personally

> for now all of those items are off my list as feel it is not in my

> best interest to consume foods that are counterproductive to

> my increasing Armour thus achieving a semblance of feeling

> well.

[Guest guest]

I agree some of the Larabars taste like tar. But some are very good. The

Lemon Pie ones are my favorite, with the Jocolat (chocolate-orange)

coming in second. I have an aquaintance here who likes the ginger ones.

You can get them from iherb, etc. I can't find these flavors locally at

all.

They are high carb/high sugar though, so I limit them. A good emergency

food to carry with you though, and I find half a bar is a good dessert

replacement.

I also carry pepperoni chips, and string cheese when I go shopping etc.

I know you can't have the cheese, but you might see if you can find a

pepperoni you can have. I crisp them in the microwave on a paper towels,

store in fridge, take a small snack bag of them with me for emergencies.

I do the same with salami. I don't know if you can find either one

totally milk free though.

sol

jasrich wrote:

> Now I need to look at Lara bars which I have

> had before and they tasted like tar.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lol. I LOVE the lemon ones. My favorite too. There are other companies that

make non-soy, non-peanut ones but I like Lara because they use the least

amount of ingredients. I also like their nut ones. They aren't really

protein bars though. It's hard to find a good tasting, good-for-you protein

bar.

Cheri-

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From: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS

[mailto:NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ]On Behalf Of sol

I agree some of the Larabars taste like tar. But some are very good. The

Lemon Pie ones are my favorite, with the Jocolat (chocolate-orange)

coming in second. I have an aquaintance here who likes the ginger ones.

You can get them from iherb, etc. I can't find these flavors locally at

all.

They are high carb/high sugar though, so I limit them. A good emergency

food to carry with you though, and I find half a bar is a good dessert

replacement.

I also carry pepperoni chips, and string cheese when I go shopping etc.

I know you can't have the cheese, but you might see if you can find a

pepperoni you can have. I crisp them in the microwave on a paper towels,

store in fridge, take a small snack bag of them with me for emergencies.

I do the same with salami. I don't know if you can find either one

totally milk free though.

sol

jasrich wrote:

> Now I need to look at Lara bars which I have

> had before and they tasted like tar.

>

>

.

[Guest guest]

,

Look into the Jay Robb protein bars. They are whey protein and taste

very good.

K

[Guest guest]

I'll check out those flavors. I can eat cheese, just in moderation.

The digestive enzymes have been working wonders with my GI - and maybe

getting the Armour up closer to therapeutic is helping too.

Thanks Sol.

> > Now I need to look at Lara bars which I have

> > had before and they tasted like tar.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Will do, I need the protein more than the sugar.

>

> ,

>

> Look into the Jay Robb protein bars. They are whey protein and taste

> very good.

>

> K

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm always on the look-out for soy-free " energy bars " . They're not

too easy to find. I love Lara bars - soy-free, gluten-free,

dairy-free, vegan, kosher, etc. etc!! Which one did you have that

tasted like tar?? The chocolate-coconut? My favorite is Cashew Cookie

- tastes nothing like tar Do you have a Trader Joe's or Costco

near you? They have Lara bars at very reasonable prices.

BTW, Clif Nectar bars are soy, wheat, gluten and dairy-free also...

Kirsten

Unfortunately I have a huge stock of Luna bars

> that I bought b/c they're gluten free, and they're tasty, but the

> protein source is soy. Now I need to look at Lara bars which I have

> had before and they tasted like tar.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kirsten, I forget what flavor I had, but I'm spoiled from those

yummy Luna bars that I can't eat too many of any more like everything

else. We have an Earthfare near by so we'll check out their stock of

Lara and Clif bars.

Thanks,

>

> ,

> I'm always on the look-out for soy-free " energy bars " . They're not

> too easy to find. I love Lara bars - soy-free, gluten-free,

> dairy-free, vegan, kosher, etc. etc!! Which one did you have that

> tasted like tar?? The chocolate-coconut? My favorite is Cashew Cookie

> - tastes nothing like tar Do you have a Trader Joe's or Costco

> near you? They have Lara bars at very reasonable prices.

>

> BTW, Clif Nectar bars are soy, wheat, gluten and dairy-free also...

>

> Kirsten