Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

[Guest guest]

Ashwaganda is said to be very hel0pful support for the adrenals whether

they are under or over functioning so yes.

And what about Gingko Val, I bought some for Danny and he is taking a.m. Is

this OK or would Ashwagda be better or BOTH?

He is insisting on staying in the NutriAdrenal glandulars for now and I am

not convinced they will help him much so want to add in whatever else would

be useful.

Mo

[Guest guest]

Ginko is a stimulant so I would avoid it for all the same reasons we avoid

caffeine.

Eek! Oh I got that badly wrong then.......... Better call him and tell not

to take it.

Mo

[Guest guest]

Ashwaganda is said to be very hel0pful support for the adrenals whether

they are under or over functioning so yes.

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[Guest guest]

I tried it I found it to be little energizing. it could be that my dosage was

high. I do not prefer this.(I also noticed it increases libido). I than tried

rhodiola. I found it to be much calmer. lately I tried relora. I found it is

best one for me.I am low in cortisol whole day but also anxious.I need something

to calm me down. you need to try to find out which one suits you best.

bw

Nil

Ashwagandha & cortisol

Is ashwagandha (withania) good to take if cortisol is high? I read

that it can adapt to either high or low cortisol.

[Guest guest]

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> Ashwaganda is said to be very hel0pful support for the adrenals

whether

> they are under or over functioning so yes.

Thanks Val. How do you keep up with so many posts?!

[Guest guest]

>>And what about Gingko Val, I bought some for Danny and he is taking a.m. Is

this OK or would Ashwagda be better or BOTH?<<

Ginko is a stimulant so I would avoid it for all the same reasons we avoid

caffeine.

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[Guest guest]

>>Thanks Val. How do you keep up with so many posts?!<<

I dont; go back and fix my typos! >LOL

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[Guest guest]

Hi val

I am having very severe brain swelling problems.Pressure in head at the left

side.Not being able to reason properly,extreme light and sound sensitivity and

even some uncontrollable body contractions. I was taking ginkgo for that(to

improve micro circulation).I am also taking Bromelain to thin the blood and

aspirin when my problem is extreme. Thank you for giving information that ginkgo

is a stimulant. I was not aware of that.That might explain why I was getting

worse since I started it.I don't know if you ever had this brain swelling

problem? Would this go away if my cortisone dosage is increased or are there any

other supplements to help with this.

thanks

Nil

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

>>And what about Gingko Val, I bought some for Danny and he is taking a.m.

Is

this OK or would Ashwagda be better or BOTH?<<

[Guest guest]

Nil, if you are low in cortisol, you do realize that Relora lowers it

further, right? Cheri

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

I tried it I found it to be little energizing. it could be that my dosage

was high. I do not prefer this.(I also noticed it increases libido). I than

tried rhodiola. I found it to be much calmer. lately I tried relora. I found

it is best one for me.I am low in cortisol whole day but also anxious.I need

something to calm me down. you need to try to find out which one suits you

best.

bw

Nil

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[Guest guest]

I have never heard of brain swelling in conjunction with cortisol problems.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I had bad brain swelling for two years. I don't know if it was thyroid

related or adrenal since I was suffering from both but it did get better

when I went on thyroid and adrenal supplements.

Cheri

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

I have never heard of brain swelling in conjunction with cortisol

problems.

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if my symptom has been brain swelling or what,

but (it used to be worse before HC): head flushing, " too much blood in

upper part of body " , head pressures and bowing would make it worse

(still have it to some degree), headaches, unable to think clearly or

focus, bloodshot eyes, feeling hot... I had it long too and it got

very bad after my last adrenal crisis and then found HC etc...Well,

working on Armour thyroid now with 35mg HC. Tend to get head throbbing

when increase Armour (currently only on 1/8G).

Cheri may I ask what kind of brain swelling was yours?

>

> I had bad brain swelling for two years. I don't know if it was

> thyroid related or adrenal since I was suffering from both but it

> did get better when I went on thyroid and adrenal supplements.

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

Mine gave me headaches, swelling around the eyes and internal swelling.

Started in 2000 after an infection which also made my hypo symptoms (and

adrenals) worse and it lasted in it's severe case for two years.

The worst part was pressure within my eyes. I would get this gritty feeling

in front of the eyeball then a feeling of someone trying to suck out my

eyeballs with a vacuum in front. In the back of the eye, I got a severe

stabbing pain like someone was taking a knife and stabbing the back of my

eyeball. My ophthalmologist even notice changes in my cornea at the time and

my contacts no longer fit right. He said my cornea was flattening out. Not

sure if that was related. My eyes were also very bloodshot.I think that is a

blood pressure issue. My over all blood pressure was very low at this time,

passing out, fainting in shower, etc. sometimes several times a day.

The pressure in my head was so bad one night I woke up screaming. I really

should have gone to the ER because I have since learned strokes and

embolisms have similar symptoms. But I survived. I was also having heart

tissues at the time off and on so who knows. Anyway, for 2 years I could not

sleep lying down because I had so much pressure in my head that built up

when I slept so I had to sleep in a sitting position with an elevated bed

front and body elevated by pillows. My blood showed macro platelets. Not

sure if that was related. I do think sodium showed low and I specifically

remember my potassium was high and blood protein was high. Again, not sure

if anything or all is related.

It slowly got better as I did various treatments, changed my diet to all

organic, added kombu, supplements, etc.. Every once in awhile I feel

pressure in the eyes and I take a lot of kombu which immediately helps. Not

sure if it is the iodine, support for the thyroid, or what. I am just glad I

don't have it anymore because it was the scariest thing I experienced.

I have read that with thyroid disease you can get edema of the brain and any

organ in the body really, so I think it is hypo related. Some people get

affected and some not.

Cheri

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

I don't know if my symptom has been brain swelling or what,

but (it used to be worse before HC): head flushing, " too much blood in

upper part of body " , head pressures and bowing would make it worse

(still have it to some degree), headaches, unable to think clearly or

focus, bloodshot eyes, feeling hot... I had it long too and it got

very bad after my last adrenal crisis and then found HC etc...Well,

working on Armour thyroid now with 35mg HC. Tend to get head throbbing

when increase Armour (currently only on 1/8G).

Cheri may I ask what kind of brain swelling was yours?

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheri

It does not lower the cortisol. It regulates Hypothalamus pituitary adrenal

axis. If you are low in cortisol it stops pituitary pushing and makes you to

notice that you need some rest.I can feel that. I am breathless but still

running around. I take relora and 15 minutes later my heart rate becomes

normal,i feel relaxed but tired(which i could not notice if I had not taken

relora) and go to bed for resting. It also makes my cortisol last longer. I

don't spend as much if i take it.

It may lower cortisol at people with excess adrenal functioning again by

regulating HPA axis

bw

Nil

RE: Ashwagandha & cortisol

Nil, if you are low in cortisol, you do realize that Relora lowers it

further, right? Cheri

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks..

At least there is hope for me..

bw

Nil

RE: Ashwagandha & cortisol

I had bad brain swelling for two years. I don't know if it was thyroid

[Guest guest]

Relora is sold as a cortisol lowing agent because the main ingredient is

magnolia bark which has cortisol lower effects. I don't believe it balances

cortisol like ashwagandha does. I have used both. Relora caused me to have

low cortisol issues sending me into an adrenaline rush not necessarily when

I first took it, but the next day when I was already low and could not

afford to. I realized it was the Relora because after I stopped, I was

better in a few days, then did some research on it. All I am saying is be

careful because you might be causing yourself more heartache but if you

think it works for you, you know your body best. I hadn't read that it works

on the pituitary level to regulate, only that it lowers cortisol.

Cheri

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

Hi Cheri

It does not lower the cortisol. It regulates Hypothalamus pituitary

adrenal axis. If you are low in cortisol it stops pituitary pushing and

makes you to notice that you need some rest.I can feel that. I am breathless

but still running around. I take relora and 15 minutes later my heart rate

becomes normal,i feel relaxed but tired(which i could not notice if I had

not taken relora) and go to bed for resting. It also makes my cortisol last

longer. I don't spend as much if i take it.

It may lower cortisol at people with excess adrenal functioning again by

regulating HPA axis

bw

Nil

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your concern Cheri.I am thinking it is marketed as `cortisol

lowering agent` as there are not many people like us.People with normal adrenal

function are more interested in lowering cortisol and loosing weight,etc. and

one can sell more if it is promoted as weight loss supplement.I made a quick

search and could not find much info on these. How does it lower cortisol? Not

much information.I will make some search on this.

thanks and best wishes.

Nil

RE: Ashwagandha & cortisol

Relora is sold as a cortisol lowing agent because the main ingredient is

magnolia bark which has cortisol lower effects. I don't believe it balances

cortisol like ashwagandha does. I have used both. Relora caused me to have

low cortisol issues sending me into an adrenaline rush not necessarily when

I

[Guest guest]

Try googling " magnolia bark cortisol " and I think you will find more. I

found stuff in the past that says it lowers it but nothing that says it

balances it (meaning raising in a person who is low).

My problem was when I took it I thought I was suffering from high cortisol

when in fact I was suffering from low.

Cheri

Re: Ashwagandha & cortisol

Thank you for your concern Cheri.I am thinking it is marketed as `cortisol

lowering agent` as there are not many people like us.People with normal

adrenal function are more interested in lowering cortisol and loosing

weight,etc. and one can sell more if it is promoted as weight loss

supplement.I made a quick search and could not find much info on these. How

does it lower cortisol? Not much information.I will make some search on

this.

thanks and best wishes.

Nil

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