Help with menu

[Guest guest]

Hello all

I'm a bit miserable atm - partly cos it's one of my symptoms and

partly because of the weight gain (or at least inch gain). I have

split my food into 6 small meals and snacks, to help the conversion

of T4 into T3. However, I've been doing this for about three months

and I am STILL gaining inches. I just thought I would post a

typical day's menu to see if anybody thinks I am overeating. If not,

then it must just be a question of waiting until I get my hormone

supplementation right.

Breakfast: 1 rasher of bacon, 1 egg (sometimes scrambled), 1

tomato, mug of tea

Mid morning: Mug of fresh coffee with coconut milk, homemade low

carb lemon muffin or coconut chocolate made with 2 tbs VCO.

Lunch: Meat/fish (eg chicken, tuna/salmon steak) usually pan fried

in butter. About 1 cup of green veg - eg broccoli, mangetout, etc.

Mid afternoon: Mug of tea, approx 4 homemade Brazil nuts covered in

70% chocolate (yum!)

Dinner: As lunch, but sometimes more of a stew/casserole, usually

with a starter of salad, homemade soup or homemade dip with crudites

Mid evening: either a handful of home made dried salted nuts (using

Celtic sea salt) or perhaps a smoothie made with homemade Kefir,

half a small banana, a few blueberries, cinnamon. Mug of fruit tea.

I've been a low carber for the past five years which means I'm

eating lots of good quality food but no grains and very little

sugar. I am following plenty of Sally Fallon's advice

from " Nourishing Traditions " for a healthy diet which is one of the

reasons I am disappointed about gaining weight. I'm also taking

plenty of supplements (I won't detail them here unless you really

want me to!) and still drinking plenty of water. I calculate that I

am eating approx 2,500 cals per day as I know important to keep the

metabolism going and not to " diet " by cutting calories and I am

rarely hungry (which is of course also a symptom of hypoT!)

Appreciate your comments ... am I eating a healthy diet??

Katy

[Guest guest]

Dear Katy,

I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.

I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed. Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey?

I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very good. The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course. Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and avocados.

To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should therefore be the biggest meal. I would consider adding some type of whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well as more fruit and vegetables.

One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts. Dinners for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before bedtime, which also helps me sleep.

Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have also been gaining weight lately. For me, I think it's because I am hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause. Do you exercise? I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form of walking or working out at the gym.

Just something to consider .

Liz

[Guest guest]

You're menu looks pretty good to me... I like how you sneak in the chocolate covered brazil nuts as a snack!

Eating frequently is good for the conversion and metabolism, as you said...

So we get back around to what your labs look like....

Two things that contribute to metabolism.. .which, when depressed, is the weight/inches gain 'devil'

One is low thyroid hormone levels, the other is inconsistent eating.... You've got the eating part down....

.... what is a 'rasher' of bacon... here (the US) we refer to slices... . I'm just curious with this....

Clues to metabolic rate include pulse rate and body temp. Low body temp is often indicative of low metabolic rate... low pulse rate.. same deal but not as much as the temp.

Our bodies use the calories we eat for energy.. the energy is used for activities, body maintenance/growth and maintaining body temp.

I'm rambling... but it's coming out of my brain this way and even though I'm feeling foolish with the broken thoughts something might trigger you to think of something so I'll just gonna let it dribble out... hope that's okay....

When the metabolism is kicked up and burning good your body should be able to maintain a good temp (that 98. something.... sorry... dont' have my chart ready to convert to Celsius... hopefully you can translate, or already know 'normal body temp' we've talked about this stuff before... I'm sure you know.. I'll shush! hehehehe)

In myself I've notices, since doing mini meals, that after a meal I feel a bit warm.... that's supposed to be a sign that the body is burning up the calories, providing some more heat, and not still stepping metabolism back as it turns the calories from the meal into fat instead of energy to use... make sense? So my question... after you eat do you feel warmer than before?

If the eating is right... and I think it is for you... then it comes back to the thyroid hormone levels.. and I know it's a bear over there to get the numbers from your doc..... have you got numbers that you can share (lab results... with ranges)

.... Now... gonna ship over some of those chocolate covered brazils so I can do some personal research!!! *wink* hehehehehehe

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On Sun, 07 May 2006 16:46:23 -0000 "Katy" writes:

Hello allI'm a bit miserable atm - partly cos it's one of my symptoms andpartly because of the weight gain (or at least inch gain). I have split my food into 6 small meals and snacks, to help the conversion of T4 into T3. However, I've been doing this for about three months and I am STILL gaining inches. I just thought I would post a typical day's menu to see if anybody thinks I am overeating. If not, then it must just be a question of waiting until I get my hormone supplementation right.Breakfast: 1 rasher of bacon, 1 egg (sometimes scrambled), 1tomato, mug of teaMid morning: Mug of fresh coffee with coconut milk, homemade lowcarb lemon muffin or coconut chocolate made with 2 tbs VCO.Lunch: Meat/fish (eg chicken, tuna/salmon steak) usually pan friedin butter. About 1 cup of green veg - eg broccoli, mangetout, etc.Mid afternoon: Mug of tea, approx 4 homemade Brazil nuts covered in70% chocolate (yum!)Dinner: As lunch, but sometimes more of a stew/casserole, usually with a starter of salad, homemade soup or homemade dip with cruditesMid evening: either a handful of home made dried salted nuts (usingCeltic sea salt) or perhaps a smoothie made with homemade Kefir, half a small banana, a few blueberries, cinnamon. Mug of fruit tea.I've been a low carber for the past five years which means I'm eating lots of good quality food but no grains and very little sugar. I am following plenty of Sally Fallon's advice from "Nourishing Traditions" for a healthy diet which is one of the reasons I am disappointed about gaining weight. I'm also taking plenty of supplements (I won't detail them here unless you really want me to!) and still drinking plenty of water. I calculate that I am eating approx 2,500 cals per day as I know important to keep the metabolism going and not to "diet" by cutting calories and I am rarely hungry (which is of course also a symptom of hypoT!)Appreciate your comments ... am I eating a healthy diet??Katy

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz

Thanks for your comments. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to

disagree about a low carb/high good fat way of eating. I've done

too much reading over the past five years (and I am now studying

nutrition formally) combined with personal experience to accept any

more that we should starve ourselves of good fats or eat

insufficient protein.

You only have to read Dr Enig, Sally Fallon, Dr Barry Groves,

Dr ph Mercola, Colpo, or any of the recent published

medical research on PubMed on this way of eating to see that,

followed correctly with fresh natural foods, it is the way human

beings are designed to eat. Here's a link to get your blood

boiling! ;¬)

http://www.theomnivore.com/Low_Fat_Diet_Is_Stupid_And_Dangerous.html

Shomon recommends a lower carb diet for thyroid disease, as

does Dr Enig and Sally Fallon, etc and it makes sense to me.

Thanks for your tips, but obviously I don't eat grains so can't

include the tortilla, etc. I am already eating many portions of

fruit and veg a day - some at every meal, some at snacks and lots at

dinner, as we have two courses including raw veg sticks/veg soup or

salad to begin with. Are you really happy drinking soy milk? It

has such bad press re the thyroid, in particular.

Yes, I usually do Pilates for exercise, a couple of times a week,

but in the last few months I have been too darn exhausted to go. We

all have that limited " pot " of energy, don't we - and mine doesn't

stretch to formal exercise at the moment, unfortunately. I'm

planning to go back to the class as soon as I begin to feel better.

Thanks again!

Katy

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " Liz C. s "

wrote:

>

> Dear Katy,

>

> I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I

believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.

>

> I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a

high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed.

Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey?

>

> I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a

substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very

good. The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course.

Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and

avocados.

>

> To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should

therefore be the biggest meal. I would consider adding some type of

whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well

as more fruit and vegetables.

>

> One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what

you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts. Dinners

for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before

bedtime, which also helps me sleep.

>

> Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have

also been gaining weight lately. For me, I think it's because I am

hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause. Do you

exercise? I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form

of walking or working out at the gym.

>

> Just something to consider .

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

OK Katy, thanks for the references.

As for the soy milk, I really do like it because I am lactose intolerant.

However, I *would* like to learn more about the effects of soy on the thyroid. I've only heard a comment here and there, but if you have some valuable information you would like to share, I would be very glad to read it. I have asked my GP for a referral to meet with a nutritionist, so that I may learn more about how to eat more healthfully.

I too am here to learn .

Liz

Re: Help with menu

Hi LizThanks for your comments. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree about a low carb/high good fat way of eating. I've done too much reading over the past five years (and I am now studying nutrition formally) combined with personal experience to accept any more that we should starve ourselves of good fats or eat insufficient protein. You only have to read Dr Enig, Sally Fallon, Dr Barry Groves, Dr ph Mercola, Colpo, or any of the recent published medical research on PubMed on this way of eating to see that, followed correctly with fresh natural foods, it is the way human beings are designed to eat. Here's a link to get your blood boiling! ;¬)http://www.theomnivore.com/Low_Fat_Diet_Is_Stupid_And_Dangerous.html Shomon recommends a lower carb diet for thyroid disease, as does Dr Enig and Sally Fallon, etc and it makes sense to me.Thanks for your tips, but obviously I don't eat grains so can't include the tortilla, etc. I am already eating many portions of fruit and veg a day - some at every meal, some at snacks and lots at dinner, as we have two courses including raw veg sticks/veg soup or salad to begin with. Are you really happy drinking soy milk? It has such bad press re the thyroid, in particular.Yes, I usually do Pilates for exercise, a couple of times a week, but in the last few months I have been too darn exhausted to go. We all have that limited "pot" of energy, don't we - and mine doesn't stretch to formal exercise at the moment, unfortunately. I'm planning to go back to the class as soon as I begin to feel better.Thanks again! :)Katy-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , "Liz C. s" wrote:>> Dear Katy,> > I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.> > I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed. Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey? > > I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very good. The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course. Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and avocados. > > To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should therefore be the biggest meal. I would consider adding some type of whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well as more fruit and vegetables.> > One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts. Dinners for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before bedtime, which also helps me sleep. > > Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have also been gaining weight lately. For me, I think it's because I am hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause. Do you exercise? I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form of walking or working out at the gym.> > Just something to consider .> > Liz>

[Guest guest]

-Hi Kate, I agree with protein / less carb diets totally. Your diet

looks pretty good to me but I would cut out the mid morning muffin,

and replace with a protein snack. And also supper - would have more

protein then,

I can't eat fruit. Gain HEAPS of weight when I eat fruit. Bananas are

the worst.

Are your portion sizes small ?

Jane

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " Katy "

wrote:

>

> Hi Liz

>

> Thanks for your comments. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to

> disagree about a low carb/high good fat way of eating. I've done

> too much reading over the past five years (and I am now studying

> nutrition formally) combined with personal experience to accept any

> more that we should starve ourselves of good fats or eat

> insufficient protein.

>

> You only have to read Dr Enig, Sally Fallon, Dr Barry Groves,

> Dr ph Mercola, Colpo, or any of the recent published

> medical research on PubMed on this way of eating to see that,

> followed correctly with fresh natural foods, it is the way human

> beings are designed to eat. Here's a link to get your blood

> boiling! ;¬)

>

> http://www.theomnivore.com/Low_Fat_Diet_Is_Stupid_And_Dangerous.html

>

> Shomon recommends a lower carb diet for thyroid disease, as

> does Dr Enig and Sally Fallon, etc and it makes sense to me.

>

> Thanks for your tips, but obviously I don't eat grains so can't

> include the tortilla, etc. I am already eating many portions of

> fruit and veg a day - some at every meal, some at snacks and lots at

> dinner, as we have two courses including raw veg sticks/veg soup or

> salad to begin with. Are you really happy drinking soy milk? It

> has such bad press re the thyroid, in particular.

>

> Yes, I usually do Pilates for exercise, a couple of times a week,

> but in the last few months I have been too darn exhausted to go. We

> all have that limited " pot " of energy, don't we - and mine doesn't

> stretch to formal exercise at the moment, unfortunately. I'm

> planning to go back to the class as soon as I begin to feel better.

>

> Thanks again!

>

> Katy

>

>

>

> -- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " Liz C. s "

> <lalobasabe@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Katy,

> >

> > I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I

> believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.

> >

> > I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a

> high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed.

> Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey?

> >

> > I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a

> substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very

> good. The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course.

> Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and

> avocados.

> >

> > To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should

> therefore be the biggest meal. I would consider adding some type of

> whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well

> as more fruit and vegetables.

> >

> > One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what

> you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts. Dinners

> for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before

> bedtime, which also helps me sleep.

> >

> > Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have

> also been gaining weight lately. For me, I think it's because I am

> hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause. Do you

> exercise? I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form

> of walking or working out at the gym.

> >

> > Just something to consider .

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all

>

> I'm a bit miserable atm - partly cos it's one of my symptoms and

> partly because of the weight gain (or at least inch gain). I have

> split my food into 6 small meals and snacks, to help the

conversion

> of T4 into T3. However, I've been doing this for about three

months

> and I am STILL gaining inches. I just thought I would post a

> typical day's menu to see if anybody thinks I am overeating. If

not,

> then it must just be a question of waiting until I get my hormone

> supplementation right.

>

> Breakfast: 1 rasher of bacon, 1 egg (sometimes scrambled), 1

> tomato, mug of tea

>

> Mid morning: Mug of fresh coffee with coconut milk, homemade low

> carb lemon muffin or coconut chocolate made with 2 tbs VCO.

>

> Lunch: Meat/fish (eg chicken, tuna/salmon steak) usually pan fried

> in butter. About 1 cup of green veg - eg broccoli, mangetout, etc.

>

> Mid afternoon: Mug of tea, approx 4 homemade Brazil nuts covered

in

> 70% chocolate (yum!)

>

> Dinner: As lunch, but sometimes more of a stew/casserole, usually

> with a starter of salad, homemade soup or homemade dip with

crudites

>

> Mid evening: either a handful of home made dried salted nuts

(using

> Celtic sea salt) or perhaps a smoothie made with homemade Kefir,

> half a small banana, a few blueberries, cinnamon. Mug of fruit

tea.

>

> I've been a low carber for the past five years which means I'm

> eating lots of good quality food but no grains and very little

> sugar. I am following plenty of Sally Fallon's advice

> from " Nourishing Traditions " for a healthy diet which is one of

the

> reasons I am disappointed about gaining weight. I'm also taking

> plenty of supplements (I won't detail them here unless you really

> want me to!) and still drinking plenty of water. I calculate that

I

> am eating approx 2,500 cals per day as I know important to keep

the

> metabolism going and not to " diet " by cutting calories and I am

> rarely hungry (which is of course also a symptom of hypoT!)

>

> Appreciate your comments ... am I eating a healthy diet??

>

> Katy

>

Just curious as to what you use for calorie count..I will admit I am

clueless on counting calories but I have guesstimated my calorie

count to be between 2500-3000 a day and I eat more before noon most

days than you eat all day..like I said though I am clueless on the

calorie count so wondering how you come up with a daily total.

I agree with the high protein but I am not a fan of low carb..I am

going to do some research as I am sure I have seen some medical

articles that low carb diets infact are responsible for an increase

in thyroid disorders..

A far as the calorie count goes though I would like a link to that

as it would help to know how many calories I take in during a day..

I am thinking I am a little low on my count and that you might be a

little high on yours..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Liz, I don't know anything about the problems with soy,but wanted to let you know that my husband is lactoseintolerant and loves the Lactaid milk and similar lactosefree milks. I've tasted it, and it tastes just the same asregular milk to me. Also, there is rice milk, if you decidethat soy is no longer a good idea.Take care,TammyOK Katy, thanks for the references. As for the soy milk, I really do like it because I am lactose intolerant. However, I *would* like to learn more about the effects of soy on the thyroid.  I've only heard a comment here and there, but if you have some valuable information you would like to share, I would be very glad to read it.  I have asked my GP for a referral to meet with a nutritionist, so that I may learn more about how to eat more healthfully. I too am here to learn . Liz   Re: Help with menuHi LizThanks for your comments.  I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree about a low carb/high good fat way of eating.  I've done too much reading over the past five years (and I am now studying nutrition formally) combined with personal experience to accept any more that we should starve ourselves of good fats or eat insufficient protein. You only have to read Dr Enig, Sally Fallon, Dr Barry Groves, Dr ph Mercola, Colpo, or any of the recent published medical research on PubMed on this way of eating to see that, followed correctly with fresh natural foods, it is the way human beings are designed to eat.  Here's a link to get your blood boiling! ;¬)http://www.theomnivore.com/Low_Fat_Diet_Is_Stupid_And_Dangerous.html Shomon recommends a lower carb diet for thyroid disease, as does Dr Enig and Sally Fallon, etc and it makes sense to me.Thanks for your tips, but obviously I don't eat grains so can't include the tortilla, etc.  I am already eating many portions of fruit and veg a day - some at every meal, some at snacks and lots at dinner, as we have two courses including raw veg sticks/veg soup or salad to begin with.  Are you really happy drinking soy milk?  It has such bad press re the thyroid, in particular.Yes, I usually do Pilates for exercise, a couple of times a week, but in the last few months I have been too darn exhausted to go.  We all have that limited "pot" of energy, don't we - and mine doesn't stretch to formal exercise at the moment, unfortunately.  I'm planning to go back to the class as soon as I begin to feel better.Thanks again! :)Katy-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , "Liz C. s"  wrote:>> Dear Katy,> > I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.> > I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed.  Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey? > > I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very good.  The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course.  Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and avocados. > > To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should therefore be the biggest meal.  I would consider adding some type of whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well as more fruit and vegetables.> > One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts.  Dinners for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before bedtime, which also helps me sleep. > > Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have also been gaining weight lately.  For me, I think it's because I am hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause.  Do you exercise?  I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form of walking or working out at the gym.> > Just something to consider .> > Liz>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tammy, this is such wonderful news! It's comforting to know there are other options out there.

Some time ago, I tried a product called, "Lact-aid," which was horrid to say the least, yuck!

Liz

Liz, I don't know anything about the problems with soy,

but wanted to let you know that my husband is lactose

intolerant and loves the Lactaid milk and similar lactose

free milks. I've tasted it, and it tastes just the same as

regular milk to me. Also, there is rice milk, if you decide

that soy is no longer a good idea.

Take care,

Tammy

OK Katy, thanks for the references.

As for the soy milk, I really do like it because I am lactose intolerant.

However, I *would* like to learn more about the effects of soy on the thyroid. I've only heard a comment here and there, but if you have some valuable information you would like to share, I would be very glad to read it. I have asked my GP for a referral to meet with a nutritionist, so that I may learn more about how to eat more healthfully.

I too am here to learn .

Liz

Re: Help with menu

Hi LizThanks for your comments. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree about a low carb/high good fat way of eating. I've done too much reading over the past five years (and I am now studying nutrition formally) combined with personal experience to accept any more that we should starve ourselves of good fats or eat insufficient protein. You only have to read Dr Enig, Sally Fallon, Dr Barry Groves, Dr ph Mercola, Colpo, or any of the recent published medical research on PubMed on this way of eating to see that, followed correctly with fresh natural foods, it is the way human beings are designed to eat. Here's a link to get your blood boiling! ;¬)http://www.theomnivore.com/Low_Fat_Diet_Is_Stupid_And_Dangerous.html Shomon recommends a lower carb diet for thyroid disease, as does Dr Enig and Sally Fallon, etc and it makes sense to me.Thanks for your tips, but obviously I don't eat grains so can't include the tortilla, etc. I am already eating many portions of fruit and veg a day - some at every meal, some at snacks and lots at dinner, as we have two courses including raw veg sticks/veg soup or salad to begin with. Are you really happy drinking soy milk? It has such bad press re the thyroid, in particular.Yes, I usually do Pilates for exercise, a couple of times a week, but in the last few months I have been too darn exhausted to go. We all have that limited "pot" of energy, don't we - and mine doesn't stretch to formal exercise at the moment, unfortunately. I'm planning to go back to the class as soon as I begin to feel better.Thanks again! :)Katy-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , "Liz C. s" wrote:>> Dear Katy,> > I personally don't agree with a low-carb diet simply because I believe we need to eat a little bit of everything in moderation.> > I am also aware that those of us with thyroid disorders do need a high-protein intake, but I'd also watch the *type* of fat consumed. Do you eat regular pork bacon, or turkey? > > I noticed in your menu that you consume what I would consider a substantial amount of animal fat, which is saturated and not very good. The exception to this is the fats found in fish of course. Other healthy fats come from nuts (which I see you already eat) and avocados. > > To me, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and should therefore be the biggest meal. I would consider adding some type of whole grain bread and/or tortilla to your meal twice a day, as well as more fruit and vegetables.> > One of my favorite mid-afternoon snacks is a smoothie like what you indicated or some dried fruit and a handful of nuts. Dinners for me are usually light, and I like a glass of soy milk before bedtime, which also helps me sleep. > > Like you, I eat several small meals throughout the day, and have also been gaining weight lately. For me, I think it's because I am hormonally off-balance right now due to menopause. Do you exercise? I make a point of doing so almost every day in the form of walking or working out at the gym.> > Just something to consider .> > Liz>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kats3boys

I based that estimate on www.fitday.com where you can enter your

foods and it will break them down into the different macro- and

micro-nutrients for you, including calories and fiber. I used to

enter my foods every day, but now I find when I occasionally do so,

it comes out more or less the same each time.

I think perhaps the reason why it looks like my calories might be

overestimated is that I choose foods which are really nutrient-dense

and this usually means that they are higher in calories per portion

than, say, a plateful of pasta, etc.

I'd be interested to see the link you have about low carb diets

causing thyroid problems. I am kind of skeptical about low carb

bashing these days. The articles are almost invariably some media

hype or written by the PCRM - the animal rights/staunch vegetarian

group in disguise. Here is a link to one of Shomon's thyroid

disease pages for the other point of view:

http://thyroid.about.com/od/loseweightsuccessfully/a/lowcarb101.htm

and here is more about the kind of diet we should be eating for

plain good health by Dr Enig:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html

Katy

>> Just curious as to what you use for calorie count..I will admit I

am

> clueless on counting calories but I have guesstimated my calorie

> count to be between 2500-3000 a day and I eat more before noon

most

> days than you eat all day..like I said though I am clueless on the

> calorie count so wondering how you come up with a daily total.

> I agree with the high protein but I am not a fan of low carb..I am

> going to do some research as I am sure I have seen some medical

> articles that low carb diets infact are responsible for an

increase

> in thyroid disorders..

> A far as the calorie count goes though I would like a link to that

> as it would help to know how many calories I take in during a day..

> I am thinking I am a little low on my count and that you might be

a

> little high on yours..

>

> Kats3boys

>