Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

[Guest guest]

I've been taking 4x seriphos to get nighttime cortisol down, but still

feel anxious, nervous, and unrefreshing (or no) sleep. Could seriphos

be making cortisol too low? That is the only supplement I take at

night and still can't sleep. I don't know what else can be causing

this feeling of constant adrenaline. Even ambien does not work!!

Thanks,

Dan

[Guest guest]

>>I've been taking 4x seriphos to get nighttime cortisol down, but still

feel anxious, nervous, and unrefreshing (or no) sleep. Could seriphos

be making cortisol too low? That is the only supplement I take at

night and still can't sleep. I don't know what else can be causing

this feeling of constant adrenaline. Even ambien does not work!!<<

Are you taking anything for cortiosl during the day? How are your daytime

levels?

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[Guest guest]

> Are you taking anything for cortiosl during the day? How are your

daytime levels?

Saliva test showed high cortisol noon-to-night, so I take 2x seriphos

at noon, 2x at 4pm, and 4x at bedtime:

11:00 - Noon 23 Elevated 5-10 nM

04:00 - 05:00 PM 10 Elevated 3-8 nM

11:00 - Midnight 12 Elevated 1-4 nM

I am wondering if the test could be wrong though, because the week

before testing I was taking isocort + some HC cream because I *thought*

I had low cortisol. I've found saliva tests to be fairly inaccurate

anyhow.

[Guest guest]

Taking anything wiht cortisol in it within two weeks of the test can

definitely skew it. I would lower your night time seriphos to see if

that helps.

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[Guest guest]

> Maybe get off everything and retest in 2 weeks?

Yeah, I think this is a good idea. Thanks everyone.

[Guest guest]

Does withania (ashwagandha) change cortisol? It is supposed to be good

for adrenals / sleep?

[Guest guest]

This is a guess, but I am wondering if you really aren't low in cortisol and

the Seriphos is making you worse? You describe an adrenaline rush, and that

happens with low cortisol. And since you were taking isocort and HC cream,

your test results cannot be relied upon.

Maybe get off everything and retest in 2 weeks?

I only get adrenaline rushes when my cortisol is low.

Cheri

Re: Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

> Are you taking anything for cortiosl during the day? How are your

daytime levels?

Saliva test showed high cortisol noon-to-night, so I take 2x seriphos

at noon, 2x at 4pm, and 4x at bedtime:

11:00 - Noon 23 Elevated 5-10 nM

04:00 - 05:00 PM 10 Elevated 3-8 nM

11:00 - Midnight 12 Elevated 1-4 nM

I am wondering if the test could be wrong though, because the week

before testing I was taking isocort + some HC cream because I *thought*

I had low cortisol. I've found saliva tests to be fairly inaccurate

anyhow.

.

[Guest guest]

>>When I was taking ASI test through Clymer Healing they told me not to stop

cortex extract but only pregnenolone. I thought they probably have a way to

evaluate the test while person is under cortex extract.I wonder how they do

that.<<

I have sen other doctors try to evaluate people while on cortisol products and

FAIL miserably. Duid they help you? DId they give oyu the correct advice with

what they determined form your testing?

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[Guest guest]

I have the same problem at stage 7. I cannot stop adrenal support for 14

days or I would be in the hospital in an ian crisis. Some of us just

can't be off to test and have to do the best we can. My last saliva actually

did show pretty accurate results, even though I was on glandulars and cream.

I think at stage 7 we will probably show th fatigue even on it cortisol

because we are so bad. I don't know for sure though.

Cheri

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Subject: Re: Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

Unfortunately,I got the instructions but could not manage to take samples

due to exhaustion problems at that time. So,I can not say much about this

but they have been working with adrenal exhausted persons for many years and

I respect their work.

But Val.. Think of a person who is stage 7 and taking 30 mg HC.In how many

days this person is going to quit the HC by decreasing it slowly and will he

be able to handle this? For example: for me. It is just impossible to stop

taking isocort. 5 mg decrease shakes me up severely. That means I will never

be able to take asi test.

bw

Nil

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[Guest guest]

>>But Val.. Think of a person who is stage 7 and taking 30 mg HC.In how many

days this person is going to quit the HC by decreasing it slowly and will he be

able to handle this? For example: for me. It is just impossible to stop taking

isocort. 5 mg decrease shakes me up severely. That means I will never be able

to take asi test.<<

Honestly I have seen MANY polaces that TREAT adrenal fatigue and have for years,

what I have not seen is places the acvtually HELP people with it. You are right

many people cannot go off meds to test adrneal levels that is why we use other

methods of checking such as temp graphing, BP testing and glucose meters to make

sure it is not too high. But any place that says these tests are accuratre and

can even be interpreted i do nto believe as I just have not seen it. They are

wasting your money. Which was my point, buti am open to learning.. I woudl LOVE

to finsd an accurate way to test cortisol levels whiel ON Isocort or HC. So

would the folks with s, but they have not found it either.

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[Guest guest]

When I was taking ASI test through Clymer Healing they told me not to stop

cortex extract but only pregnenolone. I thought they probably have a way to

evaluate the test while person is under cortex extract.I wonder how they do

that.

Best wishes.

Nil

Re: Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

Taking anything wiht cortisol in it within two weeks of the test can

definitely skew it. I would lower your night time seriphos to see if

that helps.

[Guest guest]

Seriphos had always made same effect to me. In addition to being anxious,nervous

there is another effect that I don't like about it. It stops my mind.I feel very

frustrated because of this.That is why I have always searched for other

adaptogens.I started at stage low 4. I am now 7.

bw

Nil

Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

I've been taking 4x seriphos to get nighttime cortisol down, but still

feel anxious, nervous, and unrefreshing (or no) sleep. Could seriphos

be making cortisol too low? That is the only supplement I take at

night and still can't sleep. I don't know what else can be causing

this feeling of constant adrenaline. Even ambien does not work!!

Thanks,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately,I got the instructions but could not manage to take samples due to

exhaustion problems at that time. So,I can not say much about this but they have

been working with adrenal exhausted persons for many years and I respect their

work.

But Val.. Think of a person who is stage 7 and taking 30 mg HC.In how many days

this person is going to quit the HC by decreasing it slowly and will he be able

to handle this? For example: for me. It is just impossible to stop taking

isocort. 5 mg decrease shakes me up severely. That means I will never be able

to take asi test.

bw

Nil

Re: Can seriphos push cortisol too low?

>>When I was taking ASI test through Clymer Healing they told me not to stop

cortex extract but only pregnenolone. I thought they probably have a way to

evaluate the test while person is under cortex extract.I wonder how they do

that.<<

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