Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:29:20 -0600 Subject: Re: Hi there, Simon is now 11 months old, and he has never had any xrays done. They did check his hips everytime he was seen Our second doctor, the one who did the majority of the treatment on our daughter, checked her hips at every check up. She also had an x-ray taken of her clubfoot after her last cast. (I think to determine if she needed a tenotomy or not?) At the time I thought nothing of it. My daughter was their first Ponseti patient, so they were sort of feeling their way I think. Later on this site I learned that generally x-rays are not taken with this method. I think experienced doctors and cast techs can probably tell by manipulating the foot if it is fully corrected or if it needs a tenotomy. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Hope this helps, Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01, right clubfoot) > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot >To: <nosurgery4clubfoot > >Subject: Re: Hi there, >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:27:12 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) > > >I thought all c/f babies had to have their hips tested. My son did within a >few weeks of being born and they diagnosed bi c/f at 20 week scan. They >said >then he would have to have his hips xrayed. His were fine. > >Rach _________________________________________________________________ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us & page=hotmail/es2 & ST=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Apparently they're going to x-ray Darbi's foot at her next appointment, I think in March or April. I don't know why, she'll be a year old and corrected since 5w so I think this is a checkup thing. I will ask further when we go in I suppose. Kori At 05:57 PM 1/31/04, you wrote: >Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:29:20 -0600 > >Subject: Re: Hi there, > >Simon is now 11 months old, and he has never had any xrays done. They did >check his hips everytime he was seen > > >Our second doctor, the one who did the majority of the treatment on our >daughter, checked her hips at every check up. > >She also had an x-ray taken of her clubfoot after her last cast. (I think to >determine if she needed a tenotomy or not?) At the time I thought nothing of >it. My daughter was their first Ponseti patient, so they were sort of >feeling their way I think. Later on this site I learned that generally >x-rays are not taken with this method. I think experienced doctors and cast >techs can probably tell by manipulating the foot if it is fully corrected or >if it needs a tenotomy. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! > >Hope this helps, >Joanne W. mom to Zoe (3-25-01, right clubfoot) > > > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >To: <nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: Re: Hi there, > >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:27:12 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) > > > > > >I thought all c/f babies had to have their hips tested. My son did within a > >few weeks of being born and they diagnosed bi c/f at 20 week scan. They > >said > >then he would have to have his hips xrayed. His were fine. > > > >Rach > >_________________________________________________________________ >There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us & page=hotmail/es2 & ST=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . Leah's ortho, when he found out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah has the one condition that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the feet/hands/hips don't ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do ossify, the foot won't always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the ortho. Leah will be having an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for dysplasia. Ultrasound, especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is a safe, accurate method of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation exposure to the child. Another advantage over plain radiographs is the ability to watch the hip as it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is present. Fluoroscopy(live x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially unnecessary exposure for the child. Every case is different, and evidently your physicians must feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has their own level of comfort and routine. The above information is not meant to contradict your physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the x-rays; it is merely presented to provide additional information. have a good week, Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) Graham Great Bend, KS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi I answered a message about having my son having his hips x-ray'd when he was a few weeks old, but in actual fact he had an ultrasound on his hips and not an x-ray, (I knew what I meant )I was told they always check the hips on c/f babies. Rach, Steve & Connor (b/l c/f) -- Re: X-rays and hips As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . Leah's ortho, when he found out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah has the one condition that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the feet/hands/hips don't ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do ossify, the foot won't always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the ortho. Leah will be having an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for dysplasia. Ultrasound, especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is a safe, accurate method of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation exposure to the child. Another advantage over plain radiographs is the ability to watch the hip as it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is present. Fluoroscopy(live x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially unnecessary exposure for the child. Every case is different, and evidently your physicians must feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has their own level of comfort and routine. The above information is not meant to contradict your physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the x-rays; it is merely presented to provide additional information. have a good week, Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) Graham Great Bend, KS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi There, Thankyou for all the responses i had to my question. I looked into the fact of x-rays and the relationship between CF and hip displacement. I asked Elliott's physio on the subject and she said that although she has treated a couple of children with both conditions as far as she knows there has been no proven link!! Now i don't know whether it's just that she hasn't caught up with the times or whether it hasn't really shown it's self in the uk yet. It would be interesting to know from any other uk members what their experience on this subject is. Please forgive me if any of the responses were from a uk member, as i am new to the group i am still getting to know who's from where. Hope everyone is well ! Sue and Elliott ( bi cf and hip displacement ) Sue The DownSouth Support Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/downsouthsupportgroup downsouthgroup@... > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot >To: <nosurgery4clubfoot > >Subject: Re: Re: X-rays and hips >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:35:40 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) > > >Hi > >I answered a message about having my son having his hips x-ray'd when he >was >a few weeks old, but in actual fact he had an ultrasound on his hips and >not >an x-ray, (I knew what I meant )I was told they always check the hips on >c/f babies. > >Rach, Steve & Connor (b/l c/f) >-- Re: X-rays and hips > >As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . Leah's ortho, when he found >out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah has the one condition >that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the feet/hands/hips don't >ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do ossify, the foot won't >always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the ortho. Leah will be having >an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for dysplasia. Ultrasound, >especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is a safe, accurate method >of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation exposure to the child. >Another advantage over plain radiographs is the ability to watch the hip as >it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is present. Fluoroscopy(live >x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially unnecessary exposure >for the child. Every case is different, and evidently your physicians must >feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has their own level of >comfort and routine. The above information is not meant to contradict your >physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the x-rays; it is merely >presented to provide additional information. > >have a good week, >Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) Graham >Great Bend, KS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I have been told and read the same thing - no know link, except in cases where a syndrome is present. To my way of thinking, basically, they are checking for syndromal anomolies when doing extra checking of the hips on cf babies. But, as I said before, ALL children have their hips examined, so it is really a moot point. Angel Re: X-rays and hips > >As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . Leah's ortho, when he found >out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah has the one condition >that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the feet/hands/hips don't >ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do ossify, the foot won't >always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the ortho. Leah will be having >an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for dysplasia. Ultrasound, >especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is a safe, accurate method >of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation exposure to the child. >Another advantage over plain radiographs is the ability to watch the hip as >it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is present. Fluoroscopy(live >x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially unnecessary exposure >for the child. Every case is different, and evidently your physicians must >feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has their own level of >comfort and routine. The above information is not meant to contradict your >physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the x-rays; it is merely >presented to provide additional information. > >have a good week, >Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) Graham >Great Bend, KS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Hi Sue, I'm in the UK as well, and I was told that it's very rare for children to have both clubfoot and hip displacement that they check all clubfoot babies just in case. So Alister's hips were checked via ultrasound when he was about 1 month old. And his twin 's hips were checked only manually (I don't know how exactly, the doctor just moved his legs around) at the 6-week checkup. They obviously do that with all babies. Alister got checked again as well - different doctor... I don't know if this helps... All the best, with Alister (RCF) and (normal feet) (*11 Sep 02) --- suzannah jones wrote: > Hi There, > Thankyou for all the responses i had to my question. > I looked into the fact > of x-rays and the relationship between CF and hip > displacement. I asked > Elliott's physio on the subject and she said that > although she has treated a > couple of children with both conditions as far as > she knows there has been > no proven link!! Now i don't know whether it's just > that she hasn't caught > up with the times or whether it hasn't really shown > it's self in the uk yet. > It would be interesting to know from any other uk > members what their > experience on this subject is. Please forgive me if > any of the responses > were from a uk member, as i am new to the group i am > still getting to know > who's from where. > Hope everyone is well ! > Sue and Elliott ( bi cf and hip displacement ) > > > > Sue > The DownSouth Support Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/downsouthsupportgroup > downsouthgroup@... > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot > >To: <nosurgery4clubfoot > > >Subject: Re: Re: X-rays and > hips > >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:35:40 +0000 (GMT Standard > Time) > > > > > >Hi > > > >I answered a message about having my son having his > hips x-ray'd when he > >was > >a few weeks old, but in actual fact he had an > ultrasound on his hips and > >not > >an x-ray, (I knew what I meant )I was told they > always check the hips on > >c/f babies. > > > >Rach, Steve & Connor (b/l c/f) > >-- Re: X-rays and hips > > > >As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . > Leah's ortho, when he found > >out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah > has the one condition > >that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the > feet/hands/hips don't > >ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do > ossify, the foot won't > >always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the > ortho. Leah will be having > >an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for > dysplasia. Ultrasound, > >especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is > a safe, accurate method > >of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation > exposure to the child. > >Another advantage over plain radiographs is the > ability to watch the hip as > >it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is > present. Fluoroscopy(live > >x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially > unnecessary exposure > >for the child. Every case is different, and > evidently your physicians must > >feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has > their own level of > >comfort and routine. The above information is not > meant to contradict your > >physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the > x-rays; it is merely > >presented to provide additional information. > > > >have a good week, > >Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) > Graham > >Great Bend, KS > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 All three of my children have had the hip exam at every well baby exam as well. Makes me wonder, if it's something that can creep up since they check them for it so often the first three years of life. Does it come on suddenly after numerous negative exams? Kori At 02:47 PM 2/1/04, you wrote: >I have been told and read the same thing - no know link, except in cases >where a syndrome is present. To my way of thinking, basically, they are >checking for syndromal anomolies when doing extra checking of the hips on >cf babies. But, as I said before, ALL children have their hips examined, >so it is really a moot point. > >Angel > > Re: X-rays and hips > > > >As a x-ray technologist, I'll add my $0.02 . Leah's ortho, when he found > >out I worked in x-ray, chuckled and said that Leah has the one condition > >that he doesn't x-ray. Most of the bones in the feet/hands/hips don't > >ossify until later in childhood. Even after they do ossify, the foot won't > >always look " normal " on x-ray, according to the ortho. Leah will be having > >an ultrasound of her hips this week, to check for dysplasia. Ultrasound, > >especially until the head of the femur ossifies, is a safe, accurate method > >of checking the hips. It also reduces the radiation exposure to the child. > >Another advantage over plain radiographs is the ability to watch the hip as > >it is moved, and to measure how much slippage is present. Fluoroscopy(live > >x-ray) could be used, but again this is potentially unnecessary exposure > >for the child. Every case is different, and evidently your physicians must > >feel that x-rays are warranted. Every physician has their own level of > >comfort and routine. The above information is not meant to contradict your > >physicians, or to dissuade you from getting the x-rays; it is merely > >presented to provide additional information. > > > >have a good week, > >Rob, , Leah(12-18-03, bilateral clubfoot) Graham > >Great Bend, KS > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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