Re: Re: numbness at backs of knees, feets falling asleep

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Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep. Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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Lots of reasons, Tina. One easy one can be a slight pinch in the neck or

back. You can stretch to solve it if that is the problem - and

stretching daily will keep it from coming back. (if that is the reason

it's pretty easy). In fact, if your arms fall asleep alot, try to

remember every few hours to gently do some slow shoulder rolls. Like,

raise your shoulders up towards your earlobes - roll the shoulders

either foward to make a circle, or backwards. Gentle and slow is best.

Do this a few times. You might hear a crack or two if you're like

crackly old me.

You can also gently tip your head - like tip your ear toward your

shoulder - the opposite side of your neck will feel a gentle stretch.

Then do the other side.

Then - you can do circles with your head - again super slow - make them

small circles - barely anything if you've not done this much.

Another one I do is to tip my head (slowly) down - my chin toward my

chest - exhale when you reach as far down as is COMFORTABLE for you.

Then keep your head down, but with your eyes, just glance up in front of

you .. it stretches more (strange but true)

After that one - I look up, tip my head up chin and all. Then bring head

level - eyes front - and slowly turn to look over my shoulder - hold -

then the other shoulder.

The slower and gentler the better. If anything hurts - STOP. Only

stretch as far as it feels good. When my neck is knotted, I can't even

turn my head - but do TINY attempts to turn it.

Anyway - if that is the root of your arms and hands falling asleep - it

will begin to put it right shortly.

Night owl signing off,

-Lynn

Tina Hummel wrote:

> Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands

> and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just

> rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put

> my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep.

>

>

> Tina

>

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Mine did that because of hypothyroidism, once I got my levels back down where they were supposed to be, it stopped, and so did my high blood pressure, it went back down to near normal. Is probably back up some now since my levels are off again, and I have noticed that my arms and legs have started tingling again if I sit very long too. How are your thyroid levels? Had them checked in the last 6 weeks? You might need a dose adjustment.

Also, it could be pinched or aggravated nerves in your spine, but that would require a trip to a chiro or something, so go with the thyroid levels first, and then check calcium too, and getting those right doesn't work, then I'd see an osteopath or chiro.

Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep.

Tina

rjane1955 wrote:

Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the

> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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Tina, I don't have any particular answers for you, but my handsfall asleep all the time no matter what I am doing. Lower arms,too, though not as often. It can be low calcium as US Jane said,but there are other possibilities, too. I myself take 1500 mg of calcium a day, so am pretty sure it's not due to calcium deficiency.It's a common symptom in fibro, I believe also in hypothryoid,and can also be a sign of carpal tunnel syndrome. There maybe other things I'm unaware of, too.Take care,Tammy Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep.                                                                                                       Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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Hi , I am not taking anything at this point for my thyroid they told me my TSH was not bad enough to go home and wait for my number to be off or wait till my thyroid dies.I begged for months for a refferal to and Endo and finally got one on May 4th but I have not had my thyroid levels checked since they found the hashi's in Oct of last year. I have been to the Dr a few times since then to have my blood pressure checked but he never suggested any more blood work. This part of the reason I guess I am chomping at the bit I can't wait to finally see an Endo. I got this Dr off the Shomon's list of top Doc's . But my hands and arms and legs they all fall asleep all the time just sitting and doing nothing I have told my dr this and he didn't even blink just kept writing. they sent me for therapy on my neck cause I have 2 buldging discs and stenosis. I do neck exercises everyday for my neck but the extremities still are falling

asleep I go to my GP on the 24th of this month I will tell him again but doubt anything will be done about it. I get so frustrated he is a good Dr for anything but specialities he can knock a cold or bronchitis out of me like no one business and he is a sweetie but specialties just aren't his forte. But hey I will give it a try again. I won't see my Rhuemy till May 19th . So May is going to be a very busy expensive month I do believe. Well I need to get busy here today. Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it. Tina wrote: Mine did that because of hypothyroidism, once I got my levels back down where they were supposed to be, it stopped, and so did my high blood pressure, it went back down to near normal. Is probably back up some now since my levels are off again, and I have noticed that my arms and legs have started tingling again if I sit very long

too. How are your thyroid levels? Had them checked in the last 6 weeks? You might need a dose adjustment. Also, it could be pinched or aggravated nerves in your spine, but that would require a trip to a chiro or something, so go with the thyroid levels first, and then check calcium too, and getting those right doesn't work, then I'd see an osteopath or chiro. Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it

falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep. Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the > back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to

my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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Thanks for the advice Tammy but this also happens in my lower legs as well. it just has me a little baffled I will be seeing my GP the 24 and I will bring it up again I doubt anything but I am going to bring it up last time he told me it was from having my arm bent for a long period of time I didn't buy it but anyway thanks again Tammy I appreciate it TinaTammy Wolfgram wrote: Tina, I don't have any particular answers for you, but my hands fall asleep all the time no matter what I am doing. Lower arms, too, though not as often. It can be low calcium as US Jane said, but there are other possibilities, too. I myself take 1500 mg of calcium a day, so am pretty sure it's not due to calcium deficiency. It's a common symptom in fibro, I believe also in hypothryoid, and can also be a sign of carpal tunnel syndrome. There may be other things I'm unaware of, too. Take care, Tammy Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep. Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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Yes I was going to do that cause i really don't want to wait any longer to start treament my mom told e yesterday I am a physical backet case. I know the last time I had them done my TPO was 951 all he said was to keep taking my medications I am on. So I did. Although I do remember having a dicussion with him about having a freet3 done he told me they don't do them anymore they are just alot of usless number to sort through or aleast that is what the lab was telling him. let me look back I can post my old numbers and ranges for you to have a look see. ESR range 0 - 20 my result 26Free T4 range 0.75-2.00 ng/dL my results 1.50TSH range 0.47- 6.90 ulU/mL my results 1.54vitamin B12 Range 199-732 pg/ml my results 345Folic Acid Range 3.0-17.0 ng/ml my results 5.4Antinuclear antibody negativeThyroid-Peroxidase Antibodies Range <35 IU/mL my results 951.0Cholesterol range 0-199 mgdl my

results 247triglyceride range 30- 200 mg/dl my results 237HDL Cholesterol range 40-59 mg/dl my results 27Low Density Lipoprptein range 0-159 mg/dl my results 182VLDL Range 8.0-32.0 My Results 37.9Chol/HDL ratio range 0.5-5.0 my results 9.1 I think this is all f them. thanks I am going to go get busy again . Tina kats3boys wrote: >> Hi ,> I am not taking anything at this point for my thyroid they told me my TSH was not bad enough

to go home and wait for my number to be off or wait till my thyroid dies.I begged for months for a refferal to and Endo and finally got one on May 4th but I have not had my thyroid levels checked since they found the hashi's in Oct of last year. I have been to the Dr a few times since then to have my blood pressure checked but he never suggested any more blood work. This part of the reason I guess I am chomping at the bit I can't wait to finally see an Endo. I got this Dr off the Shomon's list of top Doc's . But my hands and arms and legs they all fall asleep all the time just sitting and doing nothing I have told my dr this and he didn't even blink just kept writing. they sent me for therapy on my neck cause I have 2 buldging discs and stenosis. I do neck exercises everyday for my neck but the extremities still are falling asleep I go to my GP on the 24th of this month> I will tell him again but doubt

anything will be done about it. I get so frustrated he is a good Dr for anything but specialities he can knock a cold or bronchitis out of me like no one business and he is a sweetie but specialties just aren't his forte. But hey I will give it a try again. I won't see my Rhuemy till May 19th . So May is going to be a very busy expensive month I do believe. Well I need to get busy here today. Thanks for the advice I really do appreciate it.> > Tina> > See if your GP will send you for fresh labs on the 24th.. this way you have time to pick up hard copies and bring them to the ENDO with you or have the GP fax them to the ENDO..this will save you time and money as the ENDO will probabley look at October's labs and send you for new bloodwork and book another appointment before deciding anything.As long as you tell the GP the bloodwowrk is to speed things up with the ENDO, he should have

no problems ordering them.Kats3boys

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Hi Lynn , hey thanks for those exercises i usually do mine everyday. I got some from my physical therapist and some elastic band I use to help in the streching I do them 3 times a day ten times each but no more cause of my discs. and the stenosis. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions, and we need to get together I usually never go to bed before 1 an most times it is between 1 and 4 depends when I start feeling tired. LOL and I take sleeping pills like my huuby says yeah those suckers work real well. Anyway i will talk to you soon thanks again Tina Lynn wrote: Lots of reasons, Tina. One easy one can be a slight pinch in the neck or back. You can stretch to solve it if that is the problem - and stretching daily will keep it from coming back. (if that is the reason it's pretty easy). In fact, if your arms fall

asleep alot, try to remember every few hours to gently do some slow shoulder rolls. Like, raise your shoulders up towards your earlobes - roll the shoulders either foward to make a circle, or backwards. Gentle and slow is best. Do this a few times. You might hear a crack or two if you're like crackly old me.You can also gently tip your head - like tip your ear toward your shoulder - the opposite side of your neck will feel a gentle stretch. Then do the other side.Then - you can do circles with your head - again super slow - make them small circles - barely anything if you've not done this much.Another one I do is to tip my head (slowly) down - my chin toward my chest - exhale when you reach as far down as is COMFORTABLE for you. Then keep your head down, but with your eyes, just glance up in front of you .. it stretches more (strange but true)After that one - I look up, tip my head up chin and all.

Then bring head level - eyes front - and slowly turn to look over my shoulder - hold - then the other shoulder.The slower and gentler the better. If anything hurts - STOP. Only stretch as far as it feels good. When my neck is knotted, I can't even turn my head - but do TINY attempts to turn it.Anyway - if that is the root of your arms and hands falling asleep - it will begin to put it right shortly. :)Night owl signing off,-LynnTina Hummel wrote:> Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands > and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just > rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put > my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep.> > > Tina>

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140's my doc would have you on med so quick that is what mine was when i had my TIA and trust me hon it is no fun they hook you up to all kinda stuff you bleep and bloob. and have they oxygen up your snot locker and it dries up your sinuses. well gotta push on here Thanks TinaTina Hummel wrote: Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep. Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata

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I use the rubber band things too for my Bedxercises... I have a shorter arm one and a longer leg one.... Great for resistance work and for flexibility/stretching...

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Tina Hummel writes:

Hi Lynn ,

hey thanks for those exercises i usually do mine everyday. I got some from my physical therapist and some elastic band I use to help in the streching I do them 3 times a day ten times each but no more cause of my discs. and the stenosis. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for the suggestions, and we need to get together I usually never go to bed before 1 an most times it is between 1 and 4 depends when I start feeling tired. LOL and I take sleeping pills like my huuby says yeah those suckers work real well. Anyway i will talk to you soon thanks again

Tina

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That reminds me that I need to see my

chiro again.  I just am so afraid of missing appointments.  But it could all

relate to the spinal stuff when I think of it.

I know numbing and tingling in the hands

and arms is related to this one nerve- I forget which one.  When my fibro

issues flair up I get numbness in the hands.  Or when I get a migraine, but

then it is only the one side. Of course migraines are also related to nerves, I

think. 

And then I have a couple of bulging disks

in my lower back and I am missing this one reflex on my elbow or something my

PT told me before and it is likely due to nerve compression there.  But with

the problems I also have in the one leg and the nerve problem in the lower

abdomen, I suspect it is all interrelated. 

Or also related to my blood pressure.  I

think that is something I need to take seriously, even if I don’t like

medication.

-Ata

From: The_Thyroid_Support_Group [mailto:The_Thyroid_Support_Group ] On Behalf Of Tina Hummel

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006

12:18 PM

To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

Subject: Re:

Re: numbness at backs of knees, feets falling

asleep

Thanks for the advice Tammy but this also happens in

my lower legs as well. it just has me a little baffled I will be seeing my GP

the 24 and I will bring it up again I doubt anything but I am going to bring it

up last time he told me it was from having my arm bent for a long period of

time I didn't buy it but anyway thanks again Tammy I appreciate it

Tina

Tammy Wolfgram

wrote:

Tina, I don't have any particular answers for you, but my hands

fall asleep all the time no matter what I am doing.

Lower arms,

too, though not as often. It can be low calcium as

US Jane said,

but there are other possibilities, too. I myself

take 1500 mg of

calcium a day, so am pretty sure it's not due to

calcium deficiency.

It's a common symptom in fibro, I believe also in

hypothryoid,

and can also be a sign of carpal tunnel syndrome.

There may

be other things I'm unaware of, too.

Take care,

Tammy

Is there any

other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall

asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the

sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying

on it my hands and arms fall asleep.

Tina

rjane1955

wrote:

Tingling/falling asleep in

extremities can be low calcium. A blood

test can measure calcium.

US Jane

>

> While I know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be

the cause or

> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a

tingling/pain at the

> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and

on. I

> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently

I have

> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because

my body is

> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I

don't feel

> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating

that. Its

> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it

will go down

> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.

>

> -Ata

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Ata, I get migraines to not quite as many as I us to before I went on my blood pressure pills. But even now and again I get them still,that is when I know my bp is up so i am stressing about something or another.The spinal stuff I have spinal lumbar arthritis with degenerative joint disease and in my cervical spine it is 2 buldging discs and stenosis of the spinal canal, also was bron with spinal bifida occulta ,so we will just say my back is a real mess. i have been told evenutally they will be getting me a wheelchair but hope that is far far down the road. Tina Ata Claussen wrote: That reminds me that I need to see my chiro again. I just am so afraid of

missing appointments. But it could all relate to the spinal stuff when I think of it. I know numbing and tingling in the hands and arms is related to this one nerve- I forget which one. When my fibro issues flair up I get numbness in the hands. Or when I get a migraine, but then it is only the one side. Of course migraines are also related to nerves, I think. And then I have a couple of bulging disks in my lower back and I am missing this one reflex on my elbow or something my PT told me before and it is likely due to nerve compression there. But with the problems I also have in the one leg and the nerve problem in the lower abdomen, I suspect it is all interrelated. Or also related to my blood pressure. I think that is something I need to take seriously, even if I don’t like medication. -Ata From: The_Thyroid_Support_Group [mailto:The_Thyroid_Support_Group ] On Behalf Of Tina HummelSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:18 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Re: numbness at backs of knees, feets falling asleep Thanks for the advice Tammy but this also happens in my lower legs as well. it just has me a little baffled I will be seeing my GP the 24 and I will bring it up again I doubt anything but I am

going to bring it up last time he told me it was from having my arm bent for a long period of time I didn't buy it but anyway thanks again Tammy I appreciate it TinaTammy Wolfgram

wrote: Tina, I don't have any particular answers for you, but my hands fall asleep all the time no matter what I am doing. Lower arms, too, though not as often. It can be low calcium as US Jane said, but there are other possibilities, too. I myself take 1500 mg of calcium a day, so am pretty sure it's not due to calcium deficiency. It's a common symptom in fibro, I believe also in hypothryoid, and can also be a sign of carpal tunnel syndrome. There

may be other things I'm unaware of, too. Take care, Tammy Is there any other reasons for extremities ot fall asleep cause my hands and lower arms fall asleep alot. if I am sitting on the sofa an just rest my arm on the arm of the sofa it falls asleep and in bed if I put my arm under my pillow not even laying on it my hands and arms fall asleep. Tina rjane1955 wrote: Tingling/falling asleep in extremities can be low calcium. A blood test can measure calcium.US Jane>> While I

know now that swollen and painful feet or joints can be the cause or> hormonal issues, it is likely that problems such as a tingling/pain at the> back of the knees and feet falling asleep is? I get that off and on. I> suspect it is more related to my blood pressure though. Recently I have> started to experience high blood pressure. I think it is because my body is> going crazy for one thing and because I am in pain and when I don't feel> good my blood pressure goes up. The doctor mentioned medicating that. Its> not that high- 140s to 150s over 110s these days, and I know it will go down> once I feel better and once I lose weight. But we will see.> > -Ata