Re: what kind of tests should I have now???

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>

> I am unclear on your answer to supplement each one for all

> deffiencies what kind of doctor should I look for well I just have a

> new finding I am or I was getting TRT testosterone for about six

> years my testicle shrunk during all these time come to find out I

> was stoped the androgel and my testosterone went all the way to 400

> ng/dl without any supplement incontrast I was only 300 ng/dl on

> supplment so you see someting is wrong here my tsh was low before

> trt now is in the normal side also my LH and FSh which drove me to

> go to the new doctor male fertility doctor use to be almost none now

> in the upper 5-6 range so he thinks I am all cured don't need any

> TRT or clomid or hcg he said you are okay just give it more time

> what do you think about all these. Thanks inadvance Jack

>

If your problems were before your surgery, then things maybe working

properly..you say your TSH is normal? Do you have new results? The

number you posted before was low.. and so was your FT4..

Kats3boys

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> >

> > I am unclear on your answer to supplement each one for all

> > deffiencies what kind of doctor should I look for well I just

have a

> > new finding I am or I was getting TRT testosterone for about six

> > years my testicle shrunk during all these time come to find out

I

> > was stoped the androgel and my testosterone went all the way to

400

> > ng/dl without any supplement incontrast I was only 300 ng/dl on

> > supplment so you see someting is wrong here my tsh was low

before

> > trt now is in the normal side also my LH and FSh which drove me

to

> > go to the new doctor male fertility doctor use to be almost none

now

> > in the upper 5-6 range so he thinks I am all cured don't need

any

> > TRT or clomid or hcg he said you are okay just give it more time

> > what do you think about all these. Thanks inadvance Jack

> >

> If your problems were before your surgery, then things maybe

working

> properly..you say your TSH is normal? Do you have new results? The

> number you posted before was low.. and so was your FT4..

>

> Kats3boys

Yes kats3boys I do have test results and here they are..........

>

Total Testosterone 418 ng/dL range is 185 -800 ng/dL

FSH 4.73 IU/L range is 1.00 - 8.00

LH 5.33 IU/L range is 2.00 - 12.00

FT4 FREE 11 pmol/L range is 9 - 24

oh yes TSH I had that one last time It was in the 1.33 range is that

normal.

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> Total Testosterone 418 ng/dL range is 185 -800 ng/dL

> FSH 4.73 IU/L range is 1.00 - 8.00

> LH 5.33 IU/L range is 2.00 - 12.00

> FT4 FREE 11 pmol/L range is 9 - 24

> oh yes TSH I had that one last time It was in the 1.33 range is that

> normal.

I will let the girls more informed and experienced with hormones to

answer the hormone questions..

Yes they are in range..what part of the range I am not sure as the

range is a wide range.

TSH 1.33 is normal..

FT4 11 ( 9-24) is in range but low and I really do not think it is

reflective of your TSH..but it would depend on symptoms of hypo..with

a low FT4 see if you can get the doctor to order a FT3..( the active

thyroid hormone), very few people feel well with a FT4 reaching the

bottom end of normal but the odd person does..

A few more questions for you?

Morning body temperature?

Resting pulse?

Symptoms? ( hot/cold) ( dry skin/dry hair) ( slow healer) ( wieght?)

Kats3boys

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--- Symptoms? ( hot/cold) ( dry skin/dry hair) ( slow healer) (

wieght?)

Ok resting pulse is = 60-72

Temperature mostly I am warm but at night cold.

skin I guess ok and hair dry

heal very slow but lately have got no wounds so I don't know

weight 198 lb now I have been 180 lbs for long despite I exersice

regularly 5 days a week half hour cardio and lift weights the

rest/day.

I Guess this is the area I am strugling a lot and I eat good not too

much fat and protein though I feel.More later about my lifestyle

habits though.

>

> > Total Testosterone 418 ng/dL range is 185 -800 ng/dL

> > FSH 4.73 IU/L range is 1.00 - 8.00

> > LH 5.33 IU/L range is 2.00 - 12.00

> > FT4 FREE 11 pmol/L range is 9 - 24

> > oh yes TSH I had that one last time It was in the 1.33 range is

that

> > normal.

>

> I will let the girls more informed and experienced with hormones

to

> answer the hormone questions..

> Yes they are in range..what part of the range I am not sure as the

> range is a wide range.

>

> TSH 1.33 is normal..

> FT4 11 ( 9-24) is in range but low and I really do not think it is

> reflective of your TSH..but it would depend on symptoms of

hypo..with

> a low FT4 see if you can get the doctor to order a FT3..( the

active

> thyroid hormone), very few people feel well with a FT4 reaching

the

> bottom end of normal but the odd person does..

> A few more questions for you?

> Morning body temperature?

> Resting pulse?

> Symptoms? ( hot/cold) ( dry skin/dry hair) ( slow healer) (

wieght?)

>

> Kats3boys

>

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Okay Kats3boys I will ask my doc to do FT3 and about the temp

3 days at 98.5 and 3 days at 93.7

slow healer Yes. and resting pulse is 68 and for b/p 130/78.

please any insight what this all mean.I see my GP in 2 weeks.

>

> --- Symptoms? ( hot/cold) ( dry skin/dry hair) ( slow healer) (

> wieght?)

> Ok resting pulse is = 60-72

> Temperature mostly I am warm but at night cold.

> skin I guess ok and hair dry

> heal very slow but lately have got no wounds so I don't know

> weight 198 lb now I have been 180 lbs for long despite I exersice

> regularly 5 days a week half hour cardio and lift weights the

> rest/day.

> I Guess this is the area I am strugling a lot and I eat good not

too

> much fat and protein though I feel.More later about my lifestyle

> habits though.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > Total Testosterone 418 ng/dL range is 185 -800 ng/dL

> > > FSH 4.73 IU/L range is 1.00 - 8.00

> > > LH 5.33 IU/L range is 2.00 - 12.00

> > > FT4 FREE 11 pmol/L range is 9 - 24

> > > oh yes TSH I had that one last time It was in the 1.33 range

is

> that

> > > normal.

> >

> > I will let the girls more informed and experienced with hormones

> to

> > answer the hormone questions..

> > Yes they are in range..what part of the range I am not sure as

the

> > range is a wide range.

> >

> > TSH 1.33 is normal..

> > FT4 11 ( 9-24) is in range but low and I really do not think it

is

> > reflective of your TSH..but it would depend on symptoms of

> hypo..with

> > a low FT4 see if you can get the doctor to order a FT3..( the

> active

> > thyroid hormone), very few people feel well with a FT4 reaching

> the

> > bottom end of normal but the odd person does..

> > A few more questions for you?

> > Morning body temperature?

> > Resting pulse?

> > Symptoms? ( hot/cold) ( dry skin/dry hair) ( slow healer) (

> wieght?)

> >

> > Kats3boys

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Okay Kats3boys I will ask my doc to do FT3 and about the temp

> 3 days at 98.5 and 3 days at 93.7

> slow healer Yes. and resting pulse is 68 and for b/p 130/78.

> please any insight what this all mean.I see my GP in 2 weeks.

>

>

I am thinking you are hypo and could use some replacement hormone..

T4 and T3 are the actual thyroid hormones, you want them measured in

Free versions so other hormones do not skew the test..

I hate to make a judgement or decision call with out all the results

to view but if your T3 comes back in line with your T4 meaning they

are both at the lower end of the range I am thinking you would

benefit from replacement hormone but I am also thinking given your

history you need to dismiss the TSH as being non functional and dose

and test based on actual hormone levels..

Kats3boys

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---Hey Kats... sorry to sound stupid but I should test for FREE T3

and T4 what else should I ask for Thanks inadvance.

>

>

> >

> >

> > Okay Kats3boys I will ask my doc to do FT3 and about the temp

> > 3 days at 98.5 and 3 days at 93.7

> > slow healer Yes. and resting pulse is 68 and for b/p 130/78.

> > please any insight what this all mean.I see my GP in 2 weeks.

> >

> >

> I am thinking you are hypo and could use some replacement hormone..

> T4 and T3 are the actual thyroid hormones, you want them measured

in

> Free versions so other hormones do not skew the test..

> I hate to make a judgement or decision call with out all the

results

> to view but if your T3 comes back in line with your T4 meaning they

> are both at the lower end of the range I am thinking you would

> benefit from replacement hormone but I am also thinking given your

> history you need to dismiss the TSH as being non functional and

dose

> and test based on actual hormone levels..

>

> Kats3boys

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ---Hey Kats... sorry to sound stupid but I should test for FREE T3

> and T4 what else should I ask for Thanks inadvance.

>

You need to have both Free T4 and Free T3 tested.. another test that

maybe useful for you is a test called TRH..

This is from Merck on the TRH test..

Testing with thyrotropin-releasing hormone (TRH): Serum TSH is

measured before and after an IV injection of 500 µg synthetic TRH.

Normally, there is a rapid rise in TSH levels of 5 to 25 µU/mL,

reaching a peak in 30 min and returning to normal by 120 min. The

rise is exaggerated in primary hypothyroidism. The TRH test may be

useful in distinguishing pituitary from hypothalamic hypothyroidism.

Patients with hypothyroidism secondary to a pituitary deficiency

have an absent or impaired TSH response to TRH. Patients with a

hypothalamic disorder who have deficient TRH reserve and a normal

pituitary reserve will usually release normal amounts of TSH in

response to TRH, although the release may be delayed and prolonged,

resulting in a shift in the time of release. In hyperthyroidism, TSH

release remains suppressed, even in response to injected TRH,

because of the inhibitory effects of the elevated free T4 and free

T3 on the pituitary thyrotroph cell. However, with newer TSH assays,

the TRH test is rarely needed to diagnose thyroid dysfunction

because the basal serum TSH is proportional to the TSH response to

TRH.

Because of your history I would ask the doctor for this test.. your

Free T4 and Free T3 will tell how well you are doing but the TRH

test will tell why..

Kats3boys