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hi steph,

your son sounds so much like my son. he did not close his mouth but he did

get quiet when other children came around. that's great he only needs a touch

to remember to open his mouth. some kids are so resistant to touch prompts.

Now that is almost 5 I tell him he has to talk to his friends. A

little pushy I am but I do it a step at a time, first get to talk to his friends

then work on the situations when they don't understand etc....

its a long road but we keep on trucking

chris

marc55552003 <stephhastings@...> wrote:

My 2.5 year old son with oral and motor apraxia (not sure about verbal

but I natuarlly think he has that too) Says the few words he does

have through a clenched mouth. For instance. He can say all bun for

all done but he says it thorough a clenched mouth unless you touch his

lip as a reminder to keep it open. It doesn't seem to get better

either.

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This has to do with jaw grading and differentiating the jaw from the

rest of the face. One exercise our oral motor SLP has us doing is put

tongue depressors under his molars and while we pull gently he has to

stay straight and hold them in place. Maybe some SLPs online can give

some more suggestions for a younger child.

denise

> My 2.5 year old son with oral and motor apraxia (not sure about

verbal

> but I natuarlly think he has that too) Says the few words he does

> have through a clenched mouth. For instance. He can say all bun

for

> all done but he says it thorough a clenched mouth unless you touch

his

> lip as a reminder to keep it open. It doesn't seem to get better

> either.

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My , 33 months,dyspraxia, gross motor delay, is doing the

same kind of things. He'll sign and use some communication board

(PECS)systems at home, but when we are out, he just won't answer

people when they say " hi, " or " how old are you? " He just looks away

now, and ignores them. I think you're right, they know the babbling

and other stuff is not what they see other kids doing, so they don't

use it when " out. " At least that's my interpretation. Anybody else

see this? And yes, it just amazes me when he can pop out with the

word backpack, but can't produce a word with sounds he regularly

makes, other than the same old ones!

Roni,

> My 2.5 year old son with oral and motor apraxia (not sure about

verbal

> but I natuarlly think he has that too) Says the few words he does

> have through a clenched mouth. For instance. He can say all bun

for

> all done but he says it thorough a clenched mouth unless you touch

his

> lip as a reminder to keep it open. It doesn't seem to get better

> either. Also he rarely trys to say a word unless we say 'what is

> this' or 'say water' or what do you want ect.... He only has a few

> words that only my husband and I can understand but I would think

he

> would say the words he does know on his own. I becoming observant

of

> the fact that he is 'socially aware' hes different. He is a social

> butterfly, He always capture the attention of people with his

engagin

> smile. when he was younger he would do his 'ahhhhhhh' with the

cutest

> smile to get peoples attention, he even had a target audience of

older

> women and teenage girls. a middle-age woman or man walked by and

he

> rarely bothered with his charm but teen girls and grandmas are easy

> prey. :) Now he is so silent when others are around but he still

does

> his smiling and waving. We were at target the other day and a lady

> stopped to ask me something and she said Hi to taft he sat there

and

> smiled at her but was stone silent. then she said hi a couple more

> times and through cleched teeth he said eeyyy. I don't think she

got

> that he had said hey but I did!!! its like he knows hes too old to

> babble and saves it 'for home' Also I took him to the park and we

> were the only ones there and he was 'screaming'/laughing on the

swing.

> Another boy his age showed up and wanted Taft to play. Taft has

only

> been walking four months so he is quite slow and unbalanced at the

> playground and needs me to 'spot' him or he will just throws rock

the

> slides rather than risk the equipment. The boy was wanting Taft to

do

> everything with him and asked him to go swing. This time while

Taft

> was swinging next to the boy he was silent as they were swinging

and

> just smiled. In fact, from the moment the boy arrived at the

> playground Taft barely made any noise at all. i guess Im glad as

that

> scream/babble can be embarrassing but its also a little sad to me

that

> at 21/2 he already is aware he is different. On a funnier note I

was

> watching trading spouses tonight and I told my husband I can't

believe

> they spent 50,000 dollars on a barmitsvah and Taft said something

that

> we are both sure was meant to be barmitsvah, of all the words to

try

> to imitate he chooses a real doesy. I can't wait until he has

actual

> speech. I just have to look into his dancing little eyes to see

that

> despite his physical and speech struggles that he is a diamond in

the

> rough. I can't wait to see him shine.

>

> Steph

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Steph I rarely write because I feel that I am too new to this to

offer anything but I wanted to share with you that my apraxic son

, even at 3 yrs 4 months, is VERY quiet around people

outside the family. To be honest with you he is only himself around

my husband and myself. He will say single words in front of grand

parents and aunts and uncles but rarely more than that. I remember

telling the neurologist when he was two that I thought he was self

conscious of his speech problem and she told me he was too young to

be self aware! Another example that the professionals don't always

know everything! I believe Nick knows that other people wont be

able to understand him so he doesn't risk speaking. He is even self

conscious if he falls, he'll get up and act as though nothing

happened or come to me and say, " Go now! " even if he's bleeding. If

that happens at home he screams and crys his head off that it

hurts! So, in other words my son does it too if that helps at all.

More than anything I wanted to tell you that your " diamond in the

rough " comment brought tears to my eyes. Taft is a lucky boy to

have someone like you who believes in him.

Keep believing,

McCann

> My 2.5 year old son with oral and motor apraxia (not sure about

verbal

> but I natuarlly think he has that too) Says the few words he does

> have through a clenched mouth. For instance. He can say all bun

for

> all done but he says it thorough a clenched mouth unless you touch

his

> lip as a reminder to keep it open. It doesn't seem to get better

> either. Also he rarely trys to say a word unless we say 'what is

> this' or 'say water' or what do you want ect.... He only has a few

> words that only my husband and I can understand but I would think

he

> would say the words he does know on his own. I becoming observant

of

> the fact that he is 'socially aware' hes different. He is a social

> butterfly, He always capture the attention of people with his

engagin

> smile. when he was younger he would do his 'ahhhhhhh' with the

cutest

> smile to get peoples attention, he even had a target audience of

older

> women and teenage girls. a middle-age woman or man walked by and

he

> rarely bothered with his charm but teen girls and grandmas are easy

> prey. :) Now he is so silent when others are around but he still

does

> his smiling and waving. We were at target the other day and a lady

> stopped to ask me something and she said Hi to taft he sat there

and

> smiled at her but was stone silent. then she said hi a couple more

> times and through cleched teeth he said eeyyy. I don't think she

got

> that he had said hey but I did!!! its like he knows hes too old to

> babble and saves it 'for home' Also I took him to the park and we

> were the only ones there and he was 'screaming'/laughing on the

swing.

> Another boy his age showed up and wanted Taft to play. Taft has

only

> been walking four months so he is quite slow and unbalanced at the

> playground and needs me to 'spot' him or he will just throws rock

the

> slides rather than risk the equipment. The boy was wanting Taft to

do

> everything with him and asked him to go swing. This time while

Taft

> was swinging next to the boy he was silent as they were swinging

and

> just smiled. In fact, from the moment the boy arrived at the

> playground Taft barely made any noise at all. i guess Im glad as

that

> scream/babble can be embarrassing but its also a little sad to me

that

> at 21/2 he already is aware he is different. On a funnier note I

was

> watching trading spouses tonight and I told my husband I can't

believe

> they spent 50,000 dollars on a barmitsvah and Taft said something

that

> we are both sure was meant to be barmitsvah, of all the words to

try

> to imitate he chooses a real doesy. I can't wait until he has

actual

> speech. I just have to look into his dancing little eyes to see

that

> despite his physical and speech struggles that he is a diamond in

the

> rough. I can't wait to see him shine.

>

> Steph

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