Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Hello All! I have a question for those of you who have your kids in a publicly funded school. Our school district feels that our daughter does not qualify for summer school as she has met her educational goals so far this year. She is a severely hearing impaired 6 year old in Kindergarden with an implant since 18 mos. She is in a special class for hearing impaired kids and does not perform at the same level as the regular kids. I feel that she does qualify since she is still at least a year behind the " normal " kids. Does this make sense or has anyone run into this before? Thanks! Tim _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 It makes total sense! That is great that your daughter has met her educational goals for the year and that the school knows that. It may be that she has met those goals because she is being instructed right now. What would happen if that instruction stopped for 3months?? That would be a good argument......keep her meeting the goals (and not let her fall behind) by keeping her educated during the summer months. Tish > not qualify for summer school as she has met her >educational goals so far > this year. She is a severely hearing impaired 6 year >old in Kindergarden > with an implant since 18 mos. She is in a special class >for hearing > impaired kids and does not perform at the same level as >the regular kids. I > feel that she does qualify since she is still at least a >year behind the > " normal " kids. Does this make sense or has anyone run >into this before? > > Thanks! > Tim > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download >today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 I had this same issue with my son. I fought it, and won. I had to show that hearing impaired children need consistantcy in being around typical peers. I had to show how all the work had done during the school year was because of all the services we had in place for him. If we did not continue having him in a classroom with typical peers and the speech therapy he received throughout the school year that he would regress and we would have to start over with him in the beginning of the next school year. I had his audiologist and his private avt at his PPT to back up my information. Glad to say, he has received " extened school services " since his first year of preschool. And since the public school's summer program did not have 'typical children' they paid for him to go to a private school and provided the transportation!!! It can be done, not easily but it can. Good Luck, Debbie 6 yrs old, Hearing aid user, considering the implant > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 My son Ben had summer services his first two years with our school district. He was in a preschool for oral deaf/HOH kids, the parents all strongly felt these kids needed a summer program, and the district created one. It was really an extension of their school-year program, and it ran for the same amount of time as the other summer school programs in the district: four weeks. My son was transported to and from his summer program just as he was during the school year. Last summer it was clear that, academically, he did not need a summer program; what we mostly wanted him to work on were his mainstreaming skills and socialization with typical peers. So I enrolled him in several different summer camp programs, all local, all paid for by me, since it's what I had done for my daughter. However, the school provided speech services, since we all felt there would be regression without that. At first, they offered the speech services during their normally staffed times, but when I pointed out that that would interfere with his camp experience, which provided some critical skill building, they agreed to provide private speech services. I think the type of summer services your child receives should be based on your individual child, and what you feel she might need in order not to regress over the summer. The first two years, Ben really needed to develop some critical skills, and that took a certain kind of program. He now needs to develop other things, and I am finding camps and programs that can provide that. I have so far been quite satisfied with what the district has been willing to do for Ben to prevent regression, and so far, it's worked. Stefanie Mom to Ben, 6, severe to profound HOH, and Isabella, 9, mild loss, unaided on 1/25/05 10:24 PM, Deb DiAnni at babydewe2@... wrote: > This thread has really caused me to think. has received what I believe > to be ESY services since she turned 3. But for her, that only meant speech > therapy the first year and work with her HI the past two years. She has never > been in a class with other kids her age, our district just doesn't have > anything like this. During the second IEP the school district asked if she > should maybe attend a school about an hour away for ESY, but it was a class of > students who are severely delayed with many issues and they would not be good > models for , so I declined it. > > Are there districts that have summer classes for young children? My district > is so far behind that they are just now approving a summer school class for > math and english for those that have failed. Previously, it was a > corospondence course (go figure). > > We have the extra added problem of not having a park district so we lose a lot > in social skills when she's not around other kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 In a message dated 1/25/2005 10:27:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, babydewe2@... writes: Are there districts that have summer classes for young children? My district is so far behind that they are just now approving a summer school class for math and english for those that have failed. Previously, it was a corospondence course (go figure). I'm pretty sure that most school don't run any kind of full summer program any level. The most complete one I know of locally is at the middle and high school level where kids are making up classes. Where I went to school, three local districts would combine summer school students so they would have enough kids to fill classes and hire teachers. Our district runs summer school for those upper levels, but it is not a full summer program. As for elementary school ... they have a remedial program after school for kids in danger of failing ( complete with busing) but nothing is offered over the summer. If that remediation is not effective, they recommend retaining the child. I've only heard of the " special " services being continued over the summer locally. So, I don't think your district is incredibly behind the times. Until the US catches up with the rest of the world and extends the school years past the 180-190 days, I think this will be pretty standard everywhere. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Hi Jill - you had mentioned yesterday I believe that your daughter had to be taught to read instructions. We're struggling with that with Tom - he has ADHD on top of his hearing loss (the dream child!) so everything is ready/fire/aim for him. He didn't read directions carefully on his last science test that said all answers have to be in complete sentences so even though he had all the answers right, he lost points because of not following directions. How did you help her with this? Thanks! Barbara ****************************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College Hanover NH 03755 Tel: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 --- You wrote: My son has moderate hearing loss and is mainstreamed in kindergarten (he attended special ed. pre-school). Academically, he's doing very well. So he probably should be switched from IEP to 504. Since I don't know anything about 504 - and you've been through that transition, could you please help me: e.g. where to start finding out about 504? --- end of quote --- Hi a - has your son's team suggested this? If they haven't, it might be best to keep him on IEP... Barbara ****************************** Barbara Mellert Manager, Social Science Computing Kiewit Computing Services Dartmouth College Hanover NH 03755 Tel: 603/646-2877 URL: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~ssc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 > For our son's services, his academic success is irrelevant. Depending on her > services, you could use a similar argument for your daughter. Her need is > based on a physical disability that is causing academic issues. Academic issues > can be overcome, but the disability will always remain. (and yes, I do hate > the word " disability " but don't be afraid to say it out loud) Once our Ian > was functioning at grade level, he was transferred from IDEA to 504 > classification because the SpecEd people were no longer involved/needed. This has worked > for us because it is our contention that his need is based on his physical > disability, not on his academic struggles. > > I've been through both the IDEA (4 years) and the 504 (3 years) style > meetings (negotiations). If I can help you with specifics to use when arguing your > point, please let me know. > > This is one of my pet peeves. I truly hated the power games that went on in > our IDEA time period ... the urge to slap administrators was occasionally > quite overwhelming. (Could you guys tell? I'm so soft-spoken in the subject. LOL) > > Best -- Jill > > PS: Our son never received summer services ... he was older and it was never > appropriate for him. We fought only for in-school services. > > My son has moderate hearing loss and is mainstreamed in kindergarten (he attended special ed. pre-school). Academically, he's doing very well. So he probably should be switched from IEP to 504. Since I don't know anything about 504 - and you've been through that transition, could you please help me: e.g. where to start finding out about 504? Regards, --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 > For our son's services, his academic success is irrelevant. Depending on her > services, you could use a similar argument for your daughter. Her need is > based on a physical disability that is causing academic issues. Academic issues > can be overcome, but the disability will always remain. (and yes, I do hate > the word " disability " but don't be afraid to say it out loud) Once our Ian > was functioning at grade level, he was transferred from IDEA to 504 > classification because the SpecEd people were no longer involved/needed. This has worked > for us because it is our contention that his need is based on his physical > disability, not on his academic struggles. > > I've been through both the IDEA (4 years) and the 504 (3 years) style > meetings (negotiations). If I can help you with specifics to use when arguing your > point, please let me know. > > This is one of my pet peeves. I truly hated the power games that went on in > our IDEA time period ... the urge to slap administrators was occasionally > quite overwhelming. (Could you guys tell? I'm so soft-spoken in the subject. LOL) > > Best -- Jill > > PS: Our son never received summer services ... he was older and it was never > appropriate for him. We fought only for in-school services. > > My son has moderate hearing loss and is mainstreamed in kindergarten (he attended special ed. pre-school). Academically, he's doing very well. So he probably should be switched from IEP to 504. Since I don't know anything about 504 - and you've been through that transition, could you please help me: e.g. where to start finding out about 504? Regards, --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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