Re: New Blood Work

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>>I just got the following blood work back:

TSH, 3RD GENERATION 0.07 range 0.40-4.50

Free T4 0.9 range 0.8-1.8

Free T3 268 range 230-420

My temps are stable and at 98.6.

I would like to start weaning off the HC, because I am forgetting to

take it (I don't get the shakes when it's time for my next dose like I

used to.

What do you think?<<

Your labs are still showing hypo how do you feel? Do you still have hypo

symptoms? If not go for it!

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Your labs are still showing hypo how do you feel? Do you still have

hypo symptoms? If not go for it!

I feel better than I have in years, but still somewhat hypo. My skin is

still dry, and energy not good.

What do you think of my T3 and T4? Do I concentrate on them and ignore

the TSH? I am on 2 grains of Armour. Do you think I should raise the

Armour before weaning off the HC? What about taking T3 only? Would that

help?

Thank you.

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>>What do you think of my T3 and T4? Do I concentrate on them and ignore

the TSH? I am on 2 grains of Armour. Do you think I should raise the

Armour before weaning off the HC? What about taking T3 only? Would that

help?<<

I knwo of almost NO ONE that only needed 2 grains of Armoru to optimize. It si

strange that your temps are 98.6 though. But with ANY hyo symptms I would

forget the temps and push it to the max wiht thyroid and if it doesn;t improve

and temps go high then RT3 shoudl be suspected. If you can get it tested but if

not it would not hurt to do a trial of T3 only for 3-4 momnths .

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> I knwo of almost NO ONE that only needed 2 grains of Armoru to

optimize. It si strange that your temps are 98.6 though. But with

ANY hyo symptms I would forget the temps and push it to the max wiht

thyroid and if it doesn;t improve and temps go high then RT3 shoudl

be suspected. If you can get it tested but if not it would not hurt

to do a trial of T3 only for 3-4 momnths .

>

Free T3 268 range 230-420

My temps are stable and at 98.6.

>

, your FT3 was 268--that's not a typo? But you're at 98.6? Your

case is relevant to me because my FT3 is 304 at 1.75 grains Armour,

yet my temps sometimes go above 98.6--on days when I don't take

enough sea salt. I've only got a few hypo symptoms left--need more

eyebrows and hair, and warmer feet. The cold hands went away when I

increased from 1.5 to 1.75. I've been taking more sea salt and upped

to 1.87 grain since I'm having such a hard time with the final raises.

Do you have recent sodium and potassium lab values? What supplements

do you take?

Barb

[Guest guest]

Hi Barb,

Not a typo - if you look, it is in the range.

I take fish oil, CO-Q10, mega B and C, extra B12, zinc, milk thistle, tyrosine

and magnesium taurate.

Sodium 140 range 135-146

potassium 4.2 range 3.5-5.3

I am going to get a new thermometer and a reverse T3 test.

I feel warmer than I have in years!

What are you thinking? is your TSH low? How is your T4?

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[Guest guest]

>

> Not a typo - if you look, it is in the range.

Yes, I know, but MOST people don't hit 98.6 or get close to that till

they're over 300 in FT3 and you're still in the 200s! So it seems

there is something different about your metabolism (and mine) that we

get to those temps on low doses. That's what I'm trying to figure

out. I feel like I'm so close to optimizing, but missing one little

puzzle piece I can't figure out.

>

> I take fish oil, CO-Q10, mega B and C, extra B12, zinc, milk

thistle, tyrosine and magnesium taurate.

>

> Sodium 140 range 135-146

> potassium 4.2 range 3.5-5.3

I am taking similar and more supplements, and my sodium and potassium

were worse. Val would want your sodium higher. Do you take sea salt?

>

> I am going to get a new thermometer and a reverse T3 test.

Good idea!

>

> Is your TSH low? How is your T4?

>

My TSH was .12 and FT4 was 1.0.

Thanks for responding and let us know what your RT3 test shows.

Barb

[Guest guest]

Barb,

Some of us do not have the low temps that others have. Mine never were

under 98.2. ANY thyroid hormone raises mine to 98.6 & I have been as

high as 7,1/2 gr of Armour & my temps never got higher then 98.6.

I still was not optimal even at that high dose.

Gale

> >

> > Not a typo - if you look, it is in the range.

>

> Yes, I know, but MOST people don't hit 98.6 or get close to that till

> they're over 300 in FT3 and you're still in the 200s! So it seems

> there is something different about your metabolism (and mine) that we

> get to those temps on low doses. That's what I'm trying to figure

> out. I feel like I'm so close to optimizing, but missing one little

> puzzle piece I can't figure out.

> >

> > I take fish oil, CO-Q10, mega B and C, extra B12, zinc, milk

> thistle, tyrosine and magnesium taurate.

> >

> > Sodium 140 range 135-146

> > potassium 4.2 range 3.5-5.3

>

> I am taking similar and more supplements, and my sodium and potassium

> were worse. Val would want your sodium higher. Do you take sea salt?

> >

> > I am going to get a new thermometer and a reverse T3 test.

>

> Good idea!

> >

> > Is your TSH low? How is your T4?

> >

> My TSH was .12 and FT4 was 1.0.

>

> Thanks for responding and let us know what your RT3 test shows.

>

> Barb

>

[Guest guest]

Val would want your sodium higher. Do you take sea salt?

I take Real Salt - should I be at the top of the range?

I also take Chromium GTF. I started reading something on Dr. Rind's

website about interpreting thyroid results.

I am going to increase Armour to 3 grains (1/4 at a time)and see where

my temps are then.

I got a mew thermometer and the new one said 97.8 at the same time the

old one said 99.1.

I am sleeping so well now, after not sleeping for so long! It makes

such a difference - can it possibly get better?

[Guest guest]

Sounds like your case is solved. You just had a faulty thermometer,

so you're free to continue raising and your hypo symptoms should

decrease as your dose increases. YAY!

Barb

>

>

> Val would want your sodium higher. Do you take sea salt?

>

> I take Real Salt - should I be at the top of the range?

>

> I also take Chromium GTF. I started reading something on Dr. Rind's

> website about interpreting thyroid results.

>

> I am going to increase Armour to 3 grains (1/4 at a time)and see

where

> my temps are then.

>

> I got a mew thermometer and the new one said 97.8 at the same time

the

> old one said 99.1.

>

> I am sleeping so well now, after not sleeping for so long! It makes

> such a difference - can it possibly get better?

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

According to Dr. Rind's Thyroid Scale webpage on Interpreting Results,

your results indicate the following:

" If the T4 is in the low (but still `normal') range and the T3 is to

the right of it in the low but normal range, it means that the T4 is

converting to T3 at a high rate (more T3, less RT3). This is typically

found when the thyroid gland is unable to keep up T4 production to meet

the body's needs. The body can compensate by increasing conversion of

T4 to more T3. We see this in hypothyroidism. "

I don't understand what it means or what you need to do

Do you know what he means? I hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

, thanks for this info; I think it explains my situation. I

myself had just been going through my old labs yesterday, seeing if I

could see a pattern. I have a lab from 2005 where my FT3 was 349,

FT4 was .9 and TSH was .09. That was on 1.75 grain Armour and the

last time I felt good. So I think Dr. Rind's info is right--I'm just

a good converter, which is why a lower dose works for me. Trying to

get my T3 higher will only make me hyper. Most here have conversion

problems, but of course, my whole life, I've not been like everyone

else. Always the odd man out that thinks WAY outside the box.

I recently increased my 1.75 grain by 1/8, but don't feel well, like

BP and temps up. Couldn't understand it so dropping back down. And

will stop the ashwagandha, since again, while great for most, it

doesn't agree with me. I also think it lowers TSH, and docs hate

that my TSH is already low. Maybe after stopping that, I might be

able to raise to 2 grains. Like everyone else here, it's just trial

and error till you find what works.

Thanks for posting this , it DID help!

Barb

>

> Barb,

>

> According to Dr. Rind's Thyroid Scale webpage on Interpreting

Results,

> your results indicate the following:

>

> " If the T4 is in the low (but still `normal') range and the T3 is

to

> the right of it in the low but normal range, it means that the T4

is

> converting to T3 at a high rate (more T3, less RT3). This is

typically

> found when the thyroid gland is unable to keep up T4 production to

meet

> the body's needs. The body can compensate by increasing conversion

of

> T4 to more T3. We see this in hypothyroidism. "

>

> I don't understand what it means or what you need to do

>

> Do you know what he means? I hope this helps.

>

>

>