advise on bloodwork results

[Guest guest]

Hi...

I am writing for my 76 year old dad...he had a 1.5cm pit tumor

removed feb 7...he just recently got his bloodwork reviewed....I

wanted to post it here to get responses from you guys.......does

anyone out there have anemia with all this thyroid stuff....his

bloodcount is low...but I don't have those results here..I was

wondering if there was a connection?...also before they removed his

tumor he was hypothyroid for several months and was on levoxyl 50

meg...they took him off of that 3 weeks ago and I guess from these

tests results it shows he is no longer hypothyroid...so that is

good.....thanks for all your comments and advise...you guys are very

special!.....

value normal range

sodium serum 142 137-145

thyroid stim hormone

3.450 0.300-5.00

free thyroxine (t4)

0.7 0.7-1.9

free triiodothyronin

3.1 2.8-5.3

prolactin 9.6 2.1-17.7

testosterone 91 low 350-720

testosterone free

14.2 low 47.0-244.0

somatomedin c 102 35-213

cort baseline 6.3 3.0

cort 30 ,min 13.7

cort 60 15.8 low 18.0

the following were comments from the doctor " as you can see above

your testing revealed a low testosterone level and we will need to

discuss the possible benefits of testosterone replacement therapy

although at age 76 it is very controversial and I would like to see

you in the office to review the potential benefits and risks of

therapy. Your cortisol production did not quite exceed the

threshold of 18 and we will need to continue prednisone therapy for

now although I would like you to change your dose to 5 mg every

morning without the afternon dose of 2.5 mg that you were taking.

It is still possible that your testosterone production will recover

and that you may not need to take prednisone indefinitely. We will

plan to repeat testing when I see you in June "

[Guest guest]

> >

I took an iron pill..you can always go to the pharmacy and ask the

pharmacist, if not call up his family doctor and tell him you are

heading out to get him some iron but wanna know which one is better

and how often he needs to take it. Do be aware red blood cells have a

90 day cycle..so he will want to be retested on his iron every 90

days..

kats3boys

[Guest guest]

when i was anemic in high school my doc put me on nuiron i think... red long tablet type pills and they worked great.

andrea

Re: advise on bloodwork results

thanks for your advice!.....what did you get for you anemia?...his primary doctor just told him to take an iron pill........not how much...what brand.....geeshhh!>> > It is still possible that your testosterone production will > recover > > and that you may not need to take prednisone indefinitely. We > will > > plan to repeat testing when I see you in June"> >> I really don't know much else to add other than the dcotor is on the > right track..> His body was sick and starved from hormones because of the tumor, > his hormones are bouncing back but being 76 it will take longer.> His thyroid numbers are still low although not as low so make sure > the doc retests these also..> > On a side note the only two times I have had enemia is when I was > sick..and needing surgery. A month before I turned 19 I was in the > hospital for an emergency appendenix removal..it was a bit larger > than a grapefruit and actually ruptured while I was prepped on the > operating table waiting for my mom to come sign papers cause I was > not 19 ..but because of my age I was brushed off with the flu, pms > etc and it got that bad..blood work before surgery had me severely > enemic, it took 3 months to bounce back even with meds and 6 months > to where I did not need meds..it is the body's way of protecting > itself where other things become an emergency to the body and it > puts little work into the other things..> Just make sure they keep an eye on him, make sure he keeps bouncing > back and if he needs a boost supplement wise just make sure he is > monitored after..> > Kats3boys>

[Guest guest]

When I was diagnosed my iron levels were so low, that I was almost put into

hospital and given a blood transfusion. I don't see a Free T3 result there,

did they do it?? His TSH looks very high, is he on thyroid meds?? the T4

looks low, T4 converts into T3 which is why we need the FreeT3 results.

You are a great daughter caring about your Dad I'm in Australia, it's

morning and I've gotta go out, there are people here who can help.

go to these websites

http://www.thyrophoenix.com/

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://thyroid.about.com/

Lots of info........welcome to the group!!........................Meleese in

Oz xxx

Hi...

I am writing for my 76 year old dad...he had a 1.5cm pit tumor

removed feb 7...he just recently got his bloodwork reviewed....I

wanted to post it here to get responses from you guys.......does

anyone out there have anemia with all this thyroid stuff....his

bloodcount is low...but I don't have those results here..I was

wondering if there was a connection?...also before they removed his

tumor he was hypothyroid for several months and was on levoxyl 50

meg...they took him off of that 3 weeks ago and I guess from these

tests results it shows he is no longer hypothyroid...so that is

good.....thanks for all your comments and advise...you guys are very

special!.....

[Guest guest]

Roseyposeyme

His T4 is grossly low, right at rock bottom. Have you seen any of his past

T4 testing? Is it on it's way up, or is it on it's way down? Yes, the

testosterone is very low, but I'm wondering if the doc expects it to pick up

on it's own, as an adjunct to the pituitary surgery? This, I don't know.

Seems like a little testosterone would give him more vitality, no matter

what his age. His cortisol really took a dip, but I don't really understand

this particular form of testing either. IMO, maybe I'm wrong, but it looks

to me like June is awfully far away to be retesting. Seems like the doc

would be retesting around 6 wks or so from now, IF he had these blood draws

in either Feb or March.

advise on bloodwork results

> Hi...

>

> I am writing for my 76 year old dad...he had a 1.5cm pit tumor

> removed feb 7...he just recently got his bloodwork reviewed....I

> wanted to post it here to get responses from you guys.......does

> anyone out there have anemia with all this thyroid stuff....his

> bloodcount is low...but I don't have those results here..I was

> wondering if there was a connection?...also before they removed his

> tumor he was hypothyroid for several months and was on levoxyl 50

> meg...they took him off of that 3 weeks ago and I guess from these

> tests results it shows he is no longer hypothyroid...so that is

> good.....thanks for all your comments and advise...you guys are very

> special!.....

> value normal range

> sodium serum 142 137-145

> thyroid stim hormone

> 3.450 0.300-5.00

> free thyroxine (t4)

> 0.7 0.7-1.9

> free triiodothyronin

> 3.1 2.8-5.3

> prolactin 9.6 2.1-17.7

> testosterone 91 low 350-720

> testosterone free

> 14.2 low 47.0-244.0

> somatomedin c 102 35-213

> cort baseline 6.3 3.0

> cort 30 ,min 13.7

> cort 60 15.8 low 18.0

>

> the following were comments from the doctor " as you can see above

> your testing revealed a low testosterone level and we will need to

> discuss the possible benefits of testosterone replacement therapy

> although at age 76 it is very controversial and I would like to see

> you in the office to review the potential benefits and risks of

> therapy. Your cortisol production did not quite exceed the

> threshold of 18 and we will need to continue prednisone therapy for

> now although I would like you to change your dose to 5 mg every

> morning without the afternon dose of 2.5 mg that you were taking.

> It is still possible that your testosterone production will recover

> and that you may not need to take prednisone indefinitely. We will

> plan to repeat testing when I see you in June "

[Guest guest]

The doc makes a couple of comments... but nothing about the low thyroid levels...

The TSH (thyroid stim hormone) is too high, current range is .3 to 3.0 he's over that at 3.45. Anything over 2.0 is cause for determining what is wrong and starting supplementation. With the pituitary surgery to remove the tumor.. that makes the TSH even less accurate as far as using it for a guideline.. More attention needs to be paid to the thyroid hormone levels (TSH is a pituitary hormone). They did test the frees, but don't seem to be understanding what the results indicate.

The Free T4 (free thyroxine) is rock bottom. Not leaving enough hormone for adequate conversion and that's reflected in the Free T3 (free triiodthyronin) result which is also far too low for your dad to be feeling well....

Are they going to be putting him back on thyroid hormone... he VERY much needs it...

IMHO, of course.

Low iron levels (and ferritin) are common with hypo it's a good idea to check both levels, many of us need to take extra iron.

Personally I'd be doing some door banging to get the hormone levels up (either by staring the thyroid meds again, or adding to what he's taking) and then get another blood draw in six weeks.

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:14:08 -0000 "roseyposeyme" writes:

Hi...I am writing for my 76 year old dad...he had a 1.5cm pit tumor removed feb 7...he just recently got his bloodwork reviewed....I wanted to post it here to get responses from you guys.......does anyone out there have anemia with all this thyroid stuff....his bloodcount is low...but I don't have those results here..I was wondering if there was a connection?...also before they removed his tumor he was hypothyroid for several months and was on levoxyl 50 meg...they took him off of that 3 weeks ago and I guess from these tests results it shows he is no longer hypothyroid...so that is good.....thanks for all your comments and advise...you guys are very special!..... value normal rangesodium serum 142 137-145thyroid stim hormone 3.450 0.300-5.00free thyroxine (t4) 0.7 0.7-1.9free triiodothyronin 3.1 2.8-5.3prolactin 9.6 2.1-17.7testosterone 91 low 350-720testosterone free 14.2 low 47.0-244.0somatomedin c 102 35-213cort baseline 6.3 3.0cort 30 ,min 13.7cort 60 15.8 low 18.0the following were comments from the doctor "as you can see above your testing revealed a low testosterone level and we will need to discuss the possible benefits of testosterone replacement therapy although at age 76 it is very controversial and I would like to see you in the office to review the potential benefits and risks of therapy. Your cortisol production did not quite exceed the threshold of 18 and we will need to continue prednisone therapy for now although I would like you to change your dose to 5 mg every morning without the afternon dose of 2.5 mg that you were taking. It is still possible that your testosterone production will recover and that you may not need to take prednisone indefinitely. We will plan to repeat testing when I see you in June"