Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Do you have pernicious anemia? This autoimmune condition stops you from absorbing B12 and can be detected with a blood test. It sometimes develop in conjunction with thyroid disease (together they're called polyglandular autoimmune syndrome). Worth finding out as low B12 levels can be dangerous. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The test for pernicious anemia is a blood test for antibodies to intrinsic factor. Intrinsic factor is the substance in the gut which allows you to absorb B12. If you have antibodies to intrinsic factor, it means your body is destroying it, thus preventing B12 absorption. The treatment is regular B12 injections. Although most people with pernicious anemia need B12 injections only once a month, some patients with CFS and other fatiguing illnesses might find it helpful to get the shots more often. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 >>I'm concerned because the doctor said that that might be a symptom of too much cortisol but I'm only taking 10 mgs a day and feel like I need more.<< I have no experience wiht the vitamins being low but I DO know what the docotr is throwing at you as a scare tactic. She is talking abotu Diabetic Neuropopathy. This STARTS when your glucose remains at or above 140 and stays there for HOURS on end as in being Diabetic. You can rule this out wiht a simple glucose test which either your doctor can order or you can buy a glucose meter and check yourself at home. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi Joann, Yes~! Most certainly low vitamin D and low B12 it can be why you feel so tired. Is your ferritin low as well? Many of us are vitamin D deficient, especially those of us in the northern hemisphere where we have less sunshine. Are you on the Natural Thyroid Hormone list? Missy explains B12 deficiency so well. I can't say it as well as she, but I know that the low B12 can be the cause of your tingling. I've asked her if I might repost part of one of her messages, so there may be more to come. >>>I just found out my latest tests showed I was low on Vit B12 and D and I need to take supplements. Could this be why I'm feeling so darned tired these days? Also my hands have been tingling and feeling like I have arthritis. This has been a new symptom in the last month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 My life changed when I started b12 injections. I had a tremendous boost in mental and physical energy. Vitamin D acts more like a hormone than a vitamin. If you are deficient, you will feel it for sure and it also is needed for proper thyroid function. I would take sublingual B12 if you can't get injections. Low on Vit B12 and D I just found out my latest tests showed I was low on Vit B12 and D and I need to take supplements. Could this be why I'm feeling so darned tired these days? Also my hands have been tingling and feeling like I have arthritis. This has been a new symptom in the last month or so. I'm concerned because the doctor said that that might be a symptom of too much cortisol but I'm only taking 10 mgs a day and feel like I need more. Anyone else have experience with low B12 and D? thanks! Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Joann, Here is Missy's information. It was for someone else but methinks it applies to you. B12 is optimal if it is over 800. The range for B12 is actually very flawed as well..in this case Normal is not optimal. If you have no symptoms of pins and needles in your hands and feet or a burning tongue, you may be okay to try some sublingual lozenges (methylcobalamin 5000 mcg Jarrow Brand is good) But to be very sure, I would have a Urinary Methylmalonic Acid test. This would confirm low B12 if it is high. If you do have any symptoms I would ask for hydroxocobalamin shots, 1000 mcg: Daily for a week (or every other day for 2 weeks) Weekly for a month Monthly for life B12 deficiency is very dangerous because it can permanently damage your nervous system, and eventually cause dementia and put you in a wheelchair. It has been documented that people with a B12 of 350 or below are likely to have symptoms.. - ... If you were taking any kind of B12 supplements, even in a multivitamin, your test was skewed high..so it could be even lower. (Missy from the NTH group) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 What blood test tells us this? >>>Do you have pernicious anemia? This autoimmune condition stops you from absorbing B12 and can be detected with a blood test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 > > Joann, > > Here is Missy's information. It was for someone else but methinks it applies to you. > Hi - thanks for the information. I'm not sure what my levels were at, I was just told I was low. I'll have to call and get my test results. I was curious about the pernicious anemia because I heard it can happen in Hashi's patients. I will have to find out how to be tested for that. I would think the B12 levels would have to be pretty low if someone had that? She told me to consider injections but to start with 1000 Units of sublingual B12 and 5000 U of Vitamin D daily. I was using Emergen C before my test and I saw it has B12 in it but I drink that so maybe it doesn't get absorbed like sublingual B12. I did get my ferritin tested as well and I think it was 48? The nurse didn't think I needed to take iron supplements. Anyway I am hopeful that maybe this is the missing piece and now I will start feeling better. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 A friend's mother was diagnosed with pernicious anemia and has gotten shots on a weekly basis of B12...when she doesn't have the shot or " needs " it.. she is hell to live with....easily angered or upset. -- Re: Low on Vit B12 and D Hi Joann, I think I remember hearing once that we need to find out if we have pernicious anemia before we take B12 as it can mask the symptoms/bloodwork for it, but I don't know which test reveals that for sure. Going searching. . . Missy says that we feel best if our ferritin levels are between 70-90. >>> I did get my ferritin tested as well and I think it was 48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Missy Sorry to butt in here but could I ask you a couple of questions. I have been taking B12 (jarrows 5000) and folic acid for the last couple of weeks and now I just got my homocystiene results back and its low. Should I stop taking the B12 and folic acid? Here are my results: Homocystiene 3.2 (5-12) B12 408 (189-883 pg/mL) Thanks Geraldine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi geraldine, I sent you a private email. Hopefully it won't go into your spam folder. Re: Low on Vit B12 and D Missy Sorry to butt in here but could I ask you a couple of questions. I have been taking B12 (jarrows 5000) and folic acid for the last couple of weeks and now I just got my homocystiene results back and its low. Should I stop taking the B12 and folic acid? Here are my results: Homocystiene 3.2 (5-12) B12 408 (189-883 pg/mL) Thanks Geraldine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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