Re: low temps always mean hypothyroid?

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>

> hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and 97.8 ever

> since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it possible to

> have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe adrenal

> fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had my

> thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told me they

> were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy of the

> results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low temps

> without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

>

The problem is the definition of " normal range. " A Free T3 normal

range can be from 230-420. But you can BET someone at 230 feels like

crap with all the hypo symptoms, and someone at 420 might feel normal.

420 is ALMOST twice 230. " Normal " is a statistical definition that 80%

or more of the population fits into. (Not sure of the percentage since

it's been awhile since I had statistics, but you get the idea.)

OPTIMAL, on the other hand, is a range defined by only people who feel

well; it doesn't include everyone, like the hypos, lumped in.

So yes, with those temps, I'd say you were hypo, and your labs will

probably be in the low end of the normal range, which can be far from

optimal.

Barb

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yea,,,I was afraid of that. I already have to self treat the

adrenals and was hoping I didnt need to also self treat the thyroid.

I'll post my thyroid numbers when I get my copy of the results.

thanks for the reply

> >

> > hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and 97.8

ever

> > since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it possible

to

> > have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe adrenal

> > fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had my

> > thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told me

they

> > were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy

of the

> > results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low

temps

> > without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

> >

> The problem is the definition of " normal range. " A Free T3 normal

> range can be from 230-420. But you can BET someone at 230 feels

like

> crap with all the hypo symptoms, and someone at 420 might feel

normal.

> 420 is ALMOST twice 230. " Normal " is a statistical definition

that 80%

> or more of the population fits into. (Not sure of the percentage

since

> it's been awhile since I had statistics, but you get the idea.)

> OPTIMAL, on the other hand, is a range defined by only people who

feel

> well; it doesn't include everyone, like the hypos, lumped in.

>

> So yes, with those temps, I'd say you were hypo, and your labs

will

> probably be in the low end of the normal range, which can be far

from

> optimal.

>

> Barb

>

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any other comments? anyone here with a low temp that isnt hypo?

>

> hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and 97.8 ever

> since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it possible to

> have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe adrenal

> fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had my

> thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told me they

> were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy of the

> results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low temps

> without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

>

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Not sure...it is possible -- anything is possible.

Besides learning that you are within the normal range -- what were

your lab values? I heard I was normal for years -- but blindly

listened to my doctor. Turns out -- I wasn't normal and that range is

very much disputed. Did you have just TSH done? Did your doctor do

FT4 and FT3?

> >

> > hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and 97.8 ever

> > since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it possible to

> > have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe adrenal

> > fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had my

> > thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told me they

> > were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy of the

> > results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low temps

> > without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

> >

>

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I still am doubting that I am hypo, even though Val would disagree (LOL). I

really think I'm more on the hyperT side and don't need any thyroid meds. I too

have low body temps. I have contemplated about this too and I THINK that for me

it could be the imbalance in my autonomic nervous system (on-going issue). In Dr

Arem's book (who I highly regard) he says that depression can even cause low

body temps and lord knows I've been pretty depressed since the season (clock

change). I know this can also be low cortisol, but my cortisol seems to be okay

at 22.5 mgs. now and I'm still always freezing and run an average body temp of

97.9. These are the things I have read about in the docs' books that I have

that say can cause low body temps besides hypoT.

Re: low temps always mean hypothyroid?

any other comments? anyone here with a low temp that isnt hypo?

>

> hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and 97.8 ever

> since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it possible to

> have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe adrenal

> fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had my

> thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told me they

> were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy of the

> results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low temps

> without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

>

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>>he says that depression can even cause low body temps<<

I guess this is an argument abotu what came first the chicken or the egg. LOW T3

i possibly the MAIN cause of depression these days and low T3 does cause low

body temps. And wiht that high Estrogen I would be raising HC.

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Why Val?

Will more HC lower estrogen or does estrogen that high mean cortisol is still

too low?

Re: Re: low temps always mean hypothyroid?

>>he says that depression can even cause low body temps<<

I guess this is an argument abotu what came first the chicken or the egg. LOW

T3 i possibly the MAIN cause of depression these days and low T3 does cause low

body temps. And wiht that high Estrogen I would be raising HC.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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>>Will more HC lower estrogen or does estrogen that high mean cortisol is still

too low?<<

Yes to both!

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Should I definitely be on DIM? Does high estrogen in perimenopause also pose

the risks that it does when estrogen is replaced in menopause?

Re: Re: low temps always mean hypothyroid?

>>Will more HC lower estrogen or does estrogen that high mean cortisol is

still too low?<<

Yes to both!

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Let's see your labs with the ranges and chances are you aren't normal. Doctors

just don't understand that we are not lab reports; we are patients that need to

listened to and have our symptoms taken seriously. Chances are you need a

doctorectomy.

C.

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yes,,I did just have them done. Ive been told they were in the

normal range but I still have to pick up a copy of the results to

see just what the numbers are. I did get tsh and ft3 ft4. I'll post

the results here when I get them. thanks

> > >

> > > hi everyone. my temps have been averaging between 96.8 and

97.8 ever

> > > since I started taking them a couple months ago. is it

possible to

> > > have such low temps and not be hypothyroid? say,,,maybe

adrenal

> > > fatigue could be the lone culprit or something else? Ive had

my

> > > thyroid tested a couple weeks ago and the lab called and told

me they

> > > were in the normal range. of course I still have to get a copy

of the

> > > results to see for myself. Im just curious if you can have low

temps

> > > without having a thyroid issue. thanks for any replies

> > >

> >

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