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Hi Liz,

I have been reading some interesting information on visual stimming.

Tom does this some, and also reports that he sees things double. We

have taken him to an opthamologist and optometrist who both say that

it can't be so, and he has 20/20 vision.

However, the info I've been reading on line talks about our kiddos

having an *over* developed peripheral vision and *under* developed

central vision. If you can correct this (strengthen the central

vision and weaken the peripheral vision), you can eliminate the

visual stimming and help with the double vision (which also has

issues with convergence, etc...). Apparently, this would also help

with attention, as they wouldn't be constantly visually distracted

(big issue with Tom).

Anyway, I thought this was very interesting and made a lot of sense.

If you'd like me to hunt up some links, I'd be happy to.

Peace and grace,

Sally, mom to

Tom, 8yo dx AS but on the road to recovery

Ben, 6yo NT by the grace of God

Gracie, 2yo NT and unvaccinated

> Thanks for this information on visual stimming. It really is the

only type

> stimming that my children do. They have done so well except in

this area.

> , when you find out more, please let us know. Thanks again.

> Liz N.

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> Subject: Re: ?'s, GSE and String

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> Margaret,

>

> Is your son old enough to ask why he likes string? The chewing

might

> be related to a mineral deficiency (zinc, magnesium).

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> Distorted vision is also characteristic of migraines or headpain

> (the famous 'auras' some migraneurs see and other distortions). So

> if he has migraine type pain he might be walking around with these

> distortions all day. My pain was all the time, not just a few days

a

> week. As I 'improved' my visual perception changed.

>

> You might look at having his vision checked...not the standard eye

> test but a different type that checks for sight alignment. I am not

> describing this well. I think that is what Irlen lenses help with.

> Sensory therapy might also help with this. Recently a mom in my

town

> was describing to me how her son (who is 19 now) had all this

> strange visual obsessions and quirks. He was tested for some sort

of

> sight alignment and was found to be 'off'. They started him on some

> sensory exercises/therapies for this to correct it and it resolved

> the issues. They attended the HANDLE program but I don't know if

> that is where this came up. I will ask her next month when I see

her

> more details. Just something else to consider.

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Traci,

You are welcome.

What kind of visual stimming does your child do? My son's seems directly

related to tiredness and/or nervousness or anxiety. It looks often more like

" tics " than stimming, although when he was little it looked like stimming when

he would do the same movement over and over, like when he was playing in the

sandbox or in the bathtub or with a rattle. Looking back I see it was a matter

or motor control...he was trying so hard to make the movement itself that it was

stiff kind of movement...just like when he was learning to walk, he locked his

knees for more control. Instead of fluid movement and changing positions his

were more jerky and he would repeat the same one quite a bit, maybe " trying to

get it " so to speak. Carol

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Traci:

Your dd sounds just like our daughter! And to be honest, this

behavior is kind of new for us. When she was younger, I would say

that she was hyposenative to stimuli, seeking out new visual

interests and loved all movement. She is now 3.5 and it appears to

me that many of her sensory issues are decreasing as her physical

mobility improves. (She has low muscle tone and still unable to run

and jump...but, tries really hard) If she is bored at the dinner

table she will either get excited over the fan or begin moving her

head back and forth to create that vestibular input. She usually

does this when she is 1) bored or 2) excited/happy not really in

times of stress.

How old is your daughter? And if you find out any suggestions

to 'replace' this behavior/craving with something else, can you pass

it along :)

(Mom to , 3.5, Apraxia, SID, Hypotonia)

> Hi Carol,

> to name a few, my dd stims on onything that turns (fans, flushed

toilet

> water,a spinning toy) her spec ed teacher tells me that it is

related to her DSI I

> just dont know how to get control over this for her so she can

stop, she

> definately does not do these particular stimming activities all of

the time just

> when she thinks of it. In speech therapy if she is getting bored

and her

> attention is going down we both notice that she will fixate on say

her crayon???

> Let me explain, although her attention is getting better (sitting

and listening

> to an audia tape without fuss for max 25 minutes and doing the

activities in

> between) but it seems like when she is bored or she has had it that

is when she

> does it, I realize that is alot of kids but she does it more. I

hope Im

> explaining this ok. Carol, I wanted to thank you for taking the

time to read

> these and responding back I have to go though because my PC is

infected with POP

> UP's and I have to get some kind of blocker, its driving me

crazy!!

> LOL

>

> Traci

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It always amazes me that there is actually another child out in this world

like my Jules. I will let you in on a little secret, my dd did not stop really

noticing a rotating fan (I mean she would be right on top of that the minute

we would walk into a room with one going, she would be rotating her head) until

just recently, maybe 2 months ago when she just turned 4 yo. I would have to

say she slowed down on this because she had a burst of vocabulary and is

actually able to communicate. She is still not at a 4yo level of communication,

she is just starting to string 2 words together and actually said 3 together

yesterday " Aunt D's house " so I was thrilled over that but it is slow for me.

(Im a patient Mother but a very impatient person, I want things to happen now

i.e.: this talking!) Now before 2 months ago when she would watch a moving fan,

I simply redirected her attention. My dd, as well as a lot of children who

have moderate verbal Apraxia do carry attention delays with it, some even have

the attention disorder as well. Can you hold 's attention one on one? If

so, then when she starts to watch a moving fan just say come hear I have

to tell you something, and if she doesn't come you go to her and take her

hand and find something you know she would like to do instead of watching the

fan. 's SLP from school told me that the visual stimming comes from the

sensory (vestibular,overactive), my dd also has to wear glasses for a lazy eye,

does have anything like that? the more you hold 's attention

to YOU, the faster she will get away from that visual stimming, you have to

show her that there are other interesting things to do. You can email me

anytime offlist. Where are you from, Im from Youngstown, Ohio about 5 miles

from

the PA line. When is 's Birthday? I really do love this group of Mom's

and Dad's on this list because I finally found a group of people who have so

much in common with me. Lots of Love to You, and your family and I hope

this helps. Let me know.

Traci

(Mom to ann, 4 Mild global, moderate Oral and Verbal Apraxia/DSI and an

attention delay-getting better with speech everyday!!!! Yea!!!!)

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> Could you explain what visual stimmimg is?

My son would look at things from the sides of his eyes [peripheral

vision], wave his hands and other objects in front of his face, run

his face down horizontal and vertical lines of things, line up

objects, etc.

Dana

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