Re: Selenium

[Guest guest]

Hi Prejeantina,

I was wondering why she wants you taking Selenium? Where you low in it? One of

my Western docs told me that she is against this mineral because it has

something to do with horse's.I do not remember the whole story lol , but I

remember thinking when she told me it made no sense.

Have a nice Sunday.

a (=

prejeantina wrote:

Hello everyone,

I started to see a new Doc last week who patiently went over all my

records with me.

She decided to start me on Selenium. I don't understand I just do as I

am told. She at first wanted me to stop all the thyroid med (5 mg

cytomal 2x daily) I told her I had felt better when they started me on

it a couple months ago and she told me to continue it If wanted but to

take selenium 2 times daily.

OK the 1st day was great, but I couldnt really sleep. Yesterday was ok

and I didn't sleep at all last night.

Maybe she was right to tell me to stop the thyroid med all together and

to continue with cortisol and selenium.

I think maybe I need to heal the adreanals before I can worry about the

thyroid. Thanks guys....

[Guest guest]

I think it has something to do with the conversion from T4 to T3.

I will ask her more next week.

erica wechsler wrote:

Hi Prejeantina,

I was wondering why she wants you taking Selenium? Where you low in it? One of

my Western docs told me that she is against this mineral because it has

something to do with horse's.I do not remember the whole story lol , but I

remember thinking when she told me it made no sense.

Have a nice Sunday.

a (=

prejeantina wrote:

Hello everyone,

I started to see a new Doc last week who patiently went over all my

records with me.

She decided to start me on Selenium. I don't understand I just do as I

am told. She at first wanted me to stop all the thyroid med (5 mg

cytomal 2x daily) I told her I had felt better when they started me on

it a couple months ago and she told me to continue it If wanted but to

take selenium 2 times daily.

OK the 1st day was great, but I couldnt really sleep. Yesterday was ok

and I didn't sleep at all last night.

Maybe she was right to tell me to stop the thyroid med all together and

to continue with cortisol and selenium.

I think maybe I need to heal the adreanals before I can worry about the

thyroid. Thanks guys....

[Guest guest]

Selenium aids the transformation of T4 to T3. Most Americans are deficient in

selenium

because whole wheat is a major source and hardly anyone eats whole wheat

anymore.

Also, wheat derives selenium from soil, and soils are now depleted. Cancer

rates are lower

in places where the soil is rich in selenium, and selenium has been shown to cut

certain

cancer deaths by 50%.

Selenium has other important properties, including binding of lead and mercury

in the

body to make them harmless and deactivating the HIV virus from replicating.

> Hello everyone,

> I started to see a new Doc last week who decided to start me on Selenium. I

don't

understand I just do as I

> am told. .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Selenium has also been shown to be helpful in Hashimoto's by reducing

the antibodies.

http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/content/abstract/190/1/151

Selenium treatment in autoimmune thyroiditis: 9-month follow-up with

variable doses

Omer Turker, Kamil Kumanlioglu1, Inanc Karapolat2 and Ismail Dogan

Thyroidology Unit, Department of Nuclear Medicine, GATA Haydarpasa,

Istanbul, Turkey

1 Department of Nuclear Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, Ege University,

Izmir, Turkey

2 Department of Nuclear Medicine, Sifa Hospital, Izmir, Turkey

(Requests for offprints should be addressed to O Turker; Email:

otturker@...)

(O Turker is now at Akademi Medical Centre, Mimar Sinan Mah. 1359

sokak, No. 4A Kyzylkanat Sitesi, Alsancak, Izmir, Turkey)

The aim of this study is to investigate the long-term (9 months)

effects of variable doses (200/100 µg/day) of L-selenomethionine on

autoimmune thyroiditis (AIT) and the parameters affecting the success

rate of this therapy. The present study was designed in three steps:

(1) 88 female patients with AIT (mean age = 40.1 ± 13.3 years) were

randomized into two groups according to their initial serum TSH,

thyroid peroxidase antibody (TPOAb) concentrations, and age. All the

patients were receiving L-thyroxine to keep serum TSH & #8804;2 mIU/l. Group

S2 (n = 48, mean TPOAb = 803.9 ± 483.8 IU/ml) received 200 µg

L-selenomethionine per day, orally for 3 months, and group C (n = 40,

mean TPOAb = 770.3 ± 406.2 IU/ml) received placebo. (2) 40 volunteers

of group S2 were randomized into two age- and TPOAb-matched groups.

Group S22 (n = 20) went on taking L-selenomethionine 200 µg/day, while

others (group S21) lowered the dose to 100 µg/day. (3) 12 patients of

group S22 (group S222) went on taking L-selenomethionine 200 µg/day,

while 12 patients of group S21 (S212) increased the dose to 200

µg/day. Serum titers of TPOAb decreased significantly in group S2

(26.2%, P < 0.001), group S22 (23.7%, P < 0.01) and group S212 (30.3%,

P <0> 0.05). TPOAb titers increased significantly in group S21 (38.1%,

P < 0.01). A significant decrease in thyroglobulin antibody titers was

only noted in group S2 (5.2%, P < 0.01). L-selenomethionine

substitution suppresses serum concentrations of TPOAb in patients with

AIT, but suppression requires doses higher than 100 µg/day which is

sufficient to maximize glutathione peroxidase activities. The

suppression rate decreases with time.

**********

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_20_36/ai_80744191/print

Selenium Eases Thyroiditis - Nutrition

Sally Koch Kubetin

Selenium supplementation reduces autoantibody concentrations in

patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis and lowers disease activity, Dr.

Barbara Gasnier reported at the annual meeting of the Endocrine Society.

Results of a randomized placebo-controlled pilot study involving 72

women with Hashimoto's thyroiditis suggest moderate-level selenium

supplementation may be a low-cost, safe, and effective new therapy

that curbs progression of this common autoimmune disease, according to

Dr. Gasnier of the University of Munich.

Half of the patients were randomized to 200 [micro]g/day of sodium

selenite for 3 months; the other half got placebo. All participants

received levothyroxine sufficient to maintain their TSH levels within

the normal range.

At baseline, all patients had thyroid peroxidase and/or

antithyroglobulin antibody levels in excess of 350 U/mL. After 3

months, thyroid peroxidase autoantibody levels were down by 49% in the

selenium group, compared with a 10% reduction in the controls. Nine

selenium-treated patients and two controls had normal thyroid antibody

titers. Antithyroglobulin antibody concentrations remained unchanged

in both groups, as did mean TSH, free [T.sub.4], and free [T.sub.3]

levels.

Selenium is an essential nutrient with antioxidant properties.

COPYRIGHT 2001 International Medical News Group

>

> Hello everyone,

> I started to see a new Doc last week who patiently went over all my

> records with me.

> She decided to start me on Selenium. I don't understand I just do as I

> am told. She at first wanted me to stop all the thyroid med (5 mg

> cytomal 2x daily) I told her I had felt better when they started me on

> it a couple months ago and she told me to continue it If wanted but to

> take selenium 2 times daily.

> OK the 1st day was great, but I couldnt really sleep. Yesterday was ok

> and I didn't sleep at all last night.

> Maybe she was right to tell me to stop the thyroid med all together and

> to continue with cortisol and selenium.

> I think maybe I need to heal the adreanals before I can worry about the

> thyroid. Thanks guys....

>

[Guest guest]

Selenium is really good for the thyroid (helps convert T4 to T3) and it is

also great as an antioxidant, helps protect sells against toxins like

mercury, and helps repair cells.

The nice thing about the holidays is you can get Brazil nuts unshelled and

taking just two nuts a day (that you shell yourself, the shelled ones have

10 times less selenium) will give you 200 mcg of selenium per day.

The main thing is not to overdose on it because unlike a lot of things you

CAN o.d. on it in high quantities which creates a whole slew of other

problems. 2500 mcg is the toxic level which I doubt too many people have to

worry about.

Cheri

Selenium

Hello everyone,

I started to see a new Doc last week who patiently went over all my

records with me.

She decided to start me on Selenium. I don't understand I just do as I

am told. She at first wanted me to stop all the thyroid med (5 mg

cytomal 2x daily) I told her I had felt better when they started me on

it a couple months ago and she told me to continue it If wanted but to

take selenium 2 times daily.

OK the 1st day was great, but I couldnt really sleep. Yesterday was ok

and I didn't sleep at all last night.

Maybe she was right to tell me to stop the thyroid med all together and

to continue with cortisol and selenium.

I think maybe I need to heal the adreanals before I can worry about the

thyroid. Thanks guys....

.

[Guest guest]

>

> The main thing is not to overdose on it because unlike a lot of things you

> CAN o.d. on it in high quantities which creates a whole slew of other

> problems. 2500 mcg is the toxic level which I doubt too many people have to

> worry about.

>

> Cheri

Just last month on an episode of 'House' the 'mystery illness' turned out to be

Selenium

poisoning from eating too many brazil nuts.

[Guest guest]

lol! I wish I would have seen that. I guess if they were eating 25 brazil

nuts a day that would be possible. Too funny!

Cheri

Re: Selenium

Just last month on an episode of 'House' the 'mystery illness' turned out

to be Selenium

poisoning from eating too many brazil nuts.

.

[Guest guest]

I was trying to remember where I saw that.

I think that Selenium can also be somewhat upsetting to the stomach.

I've tried to take it a few times now, with food, and my GI was not

good afterwards.

> Just last month on an episode of 'House' the 'mystery illness'

turned out to be Selenium

> poisoning from eating too many brazil nuts.

>

[Guest guest]

A lot of people have problems with selenium supplements. It depends on the

kind and the state of your stomach. I used to get very nauseous. With the

brazil nuts I have no problem at all. Cheri

Re: Selenium

I was trying to remember where I saw that.

I think that Selenium can also be somewhat upsetting to the stomach.

I've tried to take it a few times now, with food, and my GI was not

good afterwards.

.