Re: Don't listen to quacks, they will harm you.

[Guest guest]

homosexuality is probably a brain problem so they were having their

forebrains destroyed unjustly.

Oh I am sorry, there are one or two comments in this post that I am

uncomfortable with but this last sentence is seriously objectionable.

Mo

[Guest guest]

This Carolyn Mass is just another, " blame the victim its due to their lack of

moral character, " quack. Don't listen to her.

Just because somebody says something doesn't mean its true. This Carolyn Mass

sounds like a new age quack. The world has been misled by quacks before. The US

treated bipolar disorder with Freudian quackery for 30 years after the rest of

the world accepted it was a biological disorder and was very successfully using

lithium. Freud taught that mental illness was due to repressed lust and that

allergies were psychosomatic. That's why I was punished for having depression

and allergies and told by my family physician he wasn't going to waste any time

running any tests because I just had emotional difficulties and was not worth

his valuable time. He handed me some Norman Peal pamphlets which set me

off in the wrong direction concerning my health for decades. Both my mother and

myself could have been helped with thyroid help and antidepressants but even my

doctors were ignorant. Stress has nothing to do with most health problems. I

have an acquaintance who was beat with a belt every time he had an asthma attack

for the same reason. They used to think ulcers were due to lack of moral

character and I had a friend who was grounded for developing one, " Because you

aren't paying attention to what you are supposed to be learning at church. " Now

they know ulcers are due to a bacteria infection. Radon gas exposure and a lot

of other things can also cause lung cancer. They used to allow smoking in most

public places. One little speck of cancerous material from a cigarette could

have lodged in Mrs. Reeve's lungs and festered there for 30 years or so. That is

all it would have taken.

I don't blame my father. If I really had been guilty of harboring lust in my

subconscious as Freud taught, I would have deserved to be punished. It would

have been his duty to correct me. Lust is a form of adultery and people who

commit adultery do not go to Heaven because they certainly do not belong there.

As my Sunday school teacher said, " If you dream of phallic symbols you will not

go to heaven because God won't allow any pornography up there. " People of good

moral character do control their thoughts and minds even on a subconscious

level, and keep their minds rated G. But I don't think most mentally ill people

are that way due to Freudian filth in their subconscious or stress either which

apparently is the new sin that is supposed to cause these things. I think their

brains are sick and REAL scientific resource is proving this. Its due to

structure problems in the brain, neurochemical imbalances that can easily be

corrected with medication, nutritional deficiencies, food allergies and food

intolerance's that damage gut and the nervous system, not to mention hormone

imbalances and toxic exposures. Jesus said it best, " The spirit is willing but

the flesh is weak. Lets not bring back the strait jackets and the shock

treatment and the lobotomies. I got told by my high school teacher the reason

the doctors gave so many schizophrenics lobotomies is because, " they deserved

them for being repressed homosexuals. " That is what Freud taught. But we know

now schizophrenic is due to too much dopamine in the brain and even

homosexuality is probably a brain problem so they were having their forebrains

destroyed unjustly.

Val,

I understand. But how can having all of this happen not be at all upsetting

emotionally. The emotional aspect is the biggest cause of stress rather than

mental. I don't want to open up a can of worms here but I have been doing some

very interesting research and reading lately. I have read all of Carolyn Myss'

books where she explains the emotional components to physical illness. She gets

very specific too and then I took what I learned and looked around me at people

we know and it's interesting how it seems to apply.

For example, the heart chakra represents the breasts, lungs, heart, etc. She

says that death or loss/grief over a child can trigger cancer of the breasts

(the nurturing organs). This is the case with Sen. 's wife (she lost

a child). Then there's Reeve's wife (lung cancer created by grief)

That woman never smoked or did anything unhealthy, yet six months after her

husband died she got lung cancer (grief-related and died). The list goes on and

on. She even narrows it down and says that cancer of the right breast is about a

child and cancer of the left breast is about grief over failed love

relationships. How many people here know women who developed breast cancer after

a divorce. She says with matters of the heart it'll hit you in the area of the

heart chakra where you are most genetically predisposed. If you're pre-disposed

to heart disease then that's what you'll get rather than say breast cancer. All

I'm saying is the mind/emotions are huge and often times we are not even in

touch with our emotions and just block them out so that we can pretend we are

okay. So maybe I should change my question and ask you " How has all this

affected you emotionally " ? You must have gone thru anger, resentment at the

medical system/doctors/ grief over the loss of your mother to medical

negligence, etc. etc. How can this NOT have affected you emotionally and how can

it NOT still bring up emotions as you now face life with diabetes knowing it all

could have been prevented. I know you're strong and you have moved on and

probably let go of the anger, but underneath it all you are a compassionate and

feeling person; you are not made of stone.

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh I am sorry, there are one or two comments in this post that I am

> uncomfortable with but this last sentence is seriously objectionable.

>

> Mo

I agree, I would very much like to see us stay on the topic of

thyroid/adrenal issues. This other is a topic that would be best served

in another group.

English

[Guest guest]

Well whatever it is that causes homosexuality, cutting their forebrains up, is

not going to help in any way what so ever. If its a brain problem, that won't

fix it. if its a moral problem, that won't fix it either because if you aren't

even conscious any more you certainly can't repent of anything. And if its,

" just a different way they are wired and not a problem at all, " they certainly

will have a REAL problem when they no longer have a functioning forebrain! So

giving schizophrenics lobotomies to cure them or punish them for homosexuality

was wrong! That's even is schizophrenia were caused, as Freud taught by

repressed homosexuality, which its not. Any form of psychosomatic theory is

DANGEROUS because it can lead to this kind of treatment. I do not support that

for that reason alone, if no other. " The spirit is willing but the flesh is

weak. "

homosexuality is probably a brain problem so they were having their

forebrains destroyed unjustly.

Oh I am sorry, there are one or two comments in this post that I am

uncomfortable with but this last sentence is seriously objectionable.

Mo