Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

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Hi Gossimer, I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes. Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon honey. Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1 sweet n low I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with everything. The body needs to be alkaline

to be healthy. Vinegar helps with losing inches. Srnding Love, Rita in Patopper2@... wrote: Gossimer... I'm gonna ponder on this some more.. but for now... What are you taking for adrenal support.... what time of day are you taking it? Did I count right.. six grain of Armour 2 swallowed the other 4 sublingual and multi dosed? Are you breaking the pills to expose the insides when you dose them sublingually.... (you probably have larger dose tabs that you are splitting to make the 1 grain doses that you take.... but I'll ask to be sure) You're taking Selenium with food? The other thought that comes to mind right now... You are on a relatively high dose.. with labs that 'look' decent... but still have some symptoms creeping up..... if we consider that the labs are showing what is left in the blood, what is still free.... what if there is an absorption issue/receptor issue... and even though what is still showing high in the blood is really still low at the receptor sites.... ???? Chemicals can alter how our bodies do stuff... I wonder if there is something going on with the chemicals and your receptors? .... did you catch this..? You have some background with chemicals from the fires that you've told us about... does any of this hit anything in your brain box?? One last one, for now, Gossimer.... the afternoon naps... how is your day

structured? are you one that sleeps when you have days that are too.... 'free flowing' ? Did that make sense? Or are you actually zoning out when doing stuff? How is your breathing? .... I'm coming up with more questions... How is your breathing? With the sinus infection I'm wondering if you aren't oxygenating properly and that is contributing to your mid day fatigue.... Antibiotics, can they bind with thyroid hormone? Might they be reducing the availability of what you are taking? Does anyone know?? I'm stopping for now... we'll all keep picking on this and see what our communal brain can start bringing out.... Topper () On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0000 "gossimerwingz" writes: Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit of background first:Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before thisLived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly creaping up...the last dosage was 375mg if I remember right.Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with a "Personal Summer" that never ended up until about 2 months ago. Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1 grain right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant to Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No one in their right body should have to take

this much.sigh.... Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed, Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.Multi VitSuper B ComplexIronCalcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med or vit)Selenium 200mgOmega 3 and 6 oilsVit CVit Eetc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion I walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider when its snowing or too cold.And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning muscle.I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...Went to work last June in a building right next to an International Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel at least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't healthy.Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in our direction we

could smell what spices they were mixing.The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).I resigned from this job at the end of January. Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber, another one in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too much, thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to flush the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport. Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my Free T3 was near

the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork right now)My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager breakouts stuff. I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon. Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some necessary studying/reading.Sleep 8-9 hours a night.For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the sinus infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the weight gain/food craving and the skin issues... Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop the need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something? Change something? I need

to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses. Thanks for your help!Gossimer

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Hi Topper, between your questions I've put my answers:

One thing that I'm wondering about, what with the stress that I

worked in and through for the last 7 months at the last job, I am

wondering if I undid all the good that I did treating the Adrenals

before this job and need to baby them for a few months...increase

the dosage or...gag, take the tablet sublingually (can't stand the

taste). just thinking through things today and wondering...

>

> What are you taking for adrenal support.... what time of day are

you

> taking it?

NutriMeds Adrenal support, first thing in the morning swallowed on

an empty stomach, I can't stand the taste of it.

> Did I count right.. six grain of Armour 2 swallowed the other 4

> sublingual and multi dosed?

Yep, you counted correct. Anything under six and my T4 and T3 take a

nose dive.

> Are you breaking the pills to expose the insides when you dose them

> sublingually.... (you probably have larger dose tabs that you are

> splitting to make the 1 grain doses that you take.... but I'll ask

to be

> sure)

For my sublingual I take it in 1 grain tablets...don't break them

apart

> You're taking Selenium with food?

Yes, 200mg's of Selenium.

> The other thought that comes to mind right now...

> You are on a relatively high dose.. with labs that 'look'

decent... but

> still have some symptoms creeping up..... if we consider that the

labs

> are showing what is left in the blood, what is still free.... what

if

> there is an absorption issue/receptor issue... and even though

what is

> still showing high in the blood is really still low at the receptor

> sites.... ????

Thats what I was thinking...I just don't know how to get around it.

>

> Chemicals can alter how our bodies do stuff... I wonder if there is

> something going on with the chemicals and your receptors?

>

> .... did you catch this..? You have some background with

chemicals

> from the fires that you've told us about... does any of this hit

anything

> in your brain box??

>

> One last one, for now, Gossimer.... the afternoon naps... how is

your day

> structured? are you one that sleeps when you have days that are

too....

> 'free flowing' ? Did that make sense? Or are you actually zoning

out when

> doing stuff?

I am in the middle of studying and my brain slowly turns off and I'm

asleep, same thing with recreational reading, lots of action...I

just phase out and wake up later.

>

> How is your breathing?

The nose is clear, can breath either through the mouth or the nose.

The sinus infection seems to effect the ear and frontal cavities

more than the nose...the infection did gave me a migraine two

weekends ago...lovely thing to live through, that and we had that

nasty storm move in the same day...once the atmospheric pressure

established itself the migraine dissapated into just a huge

headache. Every once in while I have to take a really deep breath,

like a really deep yawn...maybe a few of these and I'm set to go for

another while...I do have sleep apnea-its treated with a Bi-Pap that

just came back from being service with the pressure adjusted. So,

whenever I lie down at night that machine is running.

> How is your breathing? With the sinus infection I'm wondering if

you

> aren't oxygenating properly and that is contributing to your mid

day

> fatigue....

I just have one more day of the antibiotic so we'll see how things

go in the next few days...now that I'm not in polluted air all the

time.

> Antibiotics, can they bind with thyroid hormone? Might they be

reducing

> the availability of what you are taking? Does anyone know??

>

> I'm stopping for now... we'll all keep picking on this and see

what our

> communal brain can start bringing out....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0000 " gossimerwingz "

> writes:

> Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit

of

> background first:

> Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before

this

> Lived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly

creaping

> up...the last dosage was 375mg if I remember right.

> Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with

> a " Personal Summer " that never ended up until about 2 months ago.

> Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a

> hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.

>

> Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain

> sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1

grain

> right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant

to

> Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No

> one in their right body should have to take this much.sigh....

>

> Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed,

> Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.

> Multi Vit

> Super B Complex

> Iron

> Calcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med

or

> vit)

> Selenium 200mg

> Omega 3 and 6 oils

> Vit C

> Vit E

> etc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion

>

> I walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider

when

> its snowing or too cold.

> And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning

> muscle.

> I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...

>

> Went to work last June in a building right next to an

International

> Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel

at

> least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings

> and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't

> healthy.

> Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in

> our direction we could smell what spices they were mixing.

>

> The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who

> needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes

> wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).

>

> I resigned from this job at the end of January.

>

> Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber, another

one

> in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried

> three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.

>

> Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too

much,

> thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.

>

> I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to

flush

> the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport.

> Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.

> Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....

>

> My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my

> Free T3 was near the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork

> right now)

>

> My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And

> since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although

> at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager

> breakouts stuff.

>

> I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon.

> Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some

necessary

> studying/reading.

> Sleep 8-9 hours a night.

>

> For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the

sinus

> infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...

>

> My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the

> weight gain/food craving and the skin issues...

>

> Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop

the

> need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I

> missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something?

> Change something?

>

> I need to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the

> middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> Gossimer

>

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Hi Rita,

At this point, I'll try almost anything to get my clear skin

back...and getting the body into the correct ph zone makes sense.

Gossimer

>

> Hi Gossimer,

>

> I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a

recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give

you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes.

>

> Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon

honey.

>

> Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1

sweet n low

>

> I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I

use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help

with everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy.

Vinegar helps with losing inches.

>

> Srnding Love, Rita in Pa

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could be the big menopause if you're in the age range, also a good thing to help work out is swimming in the pool... it feels soooooo good on those achy joints.

Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit of background first:Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before thisLived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly creaping up...the last dosage was 375mg if I remember right.Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with a "Personal Summer" that never ended up until about 2 months ago. Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1 grain right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant to Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No one in their right body should have to take this much.sigh.... Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed, Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.Multi VitSuper B ComplexIronCalcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med or vit)Selenium 200mgOmega 3 and 6 oilsVit CVit Eetc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion I walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider when its snowing or too cold.And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning muscle.I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...Went to work last June in a building right next to an International Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel at least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't healthy.Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in our direction we could smell what spices they were mixing.The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).I resigned from this job at the end of January. Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber, another one in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too much, thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to flush the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport. Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my Free T3 was near the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork right now)My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager breakouts stuff. I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon. Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some necessary studying/reading.Sleep 8-9 hours a night.For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the sinus infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the weight gain/food craving and the skin issues... Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop the need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something? Change something? I need to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses. Thanks for your help!Gossimer

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Does it really help heartburn/acid indigestion. What kind of vinegar. I get heartburn all the time. Tina Teague wrote: I know a person who used to down 1 tablespoon of vinegar every morning.. said it helped with metabolism. I know certainly it adds acid to the stomach & gets rid of heartburn... I'm a big fan of 'natural' remedies. Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions Hi Gossimer, I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes. Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon honey. Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1 sweet n low I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy. Vinegar helps with losing inches. Srnding Love, Rita in Patopper2@... wrote: Gossimer... I'm gonna ponder on this some more.. but for now... What are you taking for adrenal support.... what time of day are you taking it? Did I count right.. six grain of Armour 2 swallowed the other 4 sublingual and multi dosed? Are you breaking the pills to expose the insides when you dose them sublingually.... (you probably have larger dose tabs that you are splitting to make the 1 grain doses that you take.... but I'll ask to be sure) You're taking Selenium with food? The other thought that comes to mind right now... You are on a relatively high dose.. with labs that 'look' decent... but still have some symptoms creeping up..... if we consider that the labs are showing what is left in the blood, what is still free....

what if there is an absorption issue/receptor issue... and even though what is still showing high in the blood is really still low at the receptor sites.... ???? Chemicals can alter how our bodies do stuff... I wonder if there is something going on with the chemicals and your receptors? .... did you catch this..? You have some background with chemicals from the fires that you've told us about... does any of this hit anything in your brain box?? One last one, for now, Gossimer.... the afternoon naps... how is your day structured? are you one that sleeps when you have days that are too.... 'free flowing' ? Did that make sense? Or are you actually zoning out when doing stuff? How is your breathing? .... I'm coming up with more questions... How is your breathing? With the sinus infection I'm

wondering if you aren't oxygenating properly and that is contributing to your mid day fatigue.... Antibiotics, can they bind with thyroid hormone? Might they be reducing the availability of what you are taking? Does anyone know?? I'm stopping for now... we'll all keep picking on this and see what our communal brain can start bringing out.... Topper () On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0000 "gossimerwingz" writes: Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit of background first:Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before thisLived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly creaping up...the last dosage was 375mg if I

remember right.Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with a "Personal Summer" that never ended up until about 2 months ago. Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1 grain right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant to Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No one in their right body should have to take this much.sigh.... Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed, Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.Multi VitSuper B ComplexIronCalcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med or vit)Selenium 200mgOmega 3 and 6 oilsVit CVit Eetc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion I

walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider when its snowing or too cold.And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning muscle.I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...Went to work last June in a building right next to an International Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel at least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't healthy.Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in our direction we could smell what spices they were mixing.The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).I resigned from this job at the end of January. Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber,

another one in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too much, thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to flush the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport. Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my Free T3 was near the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork right now)My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager breakouts stuff. I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon.

Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some necessary studying/reading.Sleep 8-9 hours a night.For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the sinus infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the weight gain/food craving and the skin issues... Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop the need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something? Change something? I need to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses. Thanks for your help!Gossimer Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Tina JJOIPPKOOUNUJOP'IUJK0--9UTINA MK-099-99\OP'[-0 I]9IKI099 U[

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When was the last time you had testing done for your sex hormones, as in the

testosterone, estrogens, and progesterone? How about DHEA altogether with

these others? You have a DO. If he/she has not tested these hormones

recently, what with the acne, weight gain, and foul moods, then he/she isn't

thinking very straight, considering that you're only 4 yrs behind me in age.

Unless you had a total hyst yrs and yrs ago, it may be right about that fun

time in life. Yes, I love it, it's been going on now for approximately 12

to 13 yrs and seems neverending, and, having had a partial hyst, leaving one

ovary, it was just enough to prolong it forever and ever. Wish the dumbbell

had taken it ALL out. At least I would have gone insane much much faster

and gotten it over with. My ears STILL light up like Christmas trees, and I

still have hot flushes and mood swings from them, but not to the extent that

I once did. I really do think that this is what is going on. He needs to

do the saliva tests on you for these, especially since you seemed to be at a

very optimal dose, and now this suddenly. I know that low cortisol

production is usually involved with the allergies, but it could be many or

all of the other substances too.

Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue

questions

> Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit of

> background first:

> Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before this

> Lived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly creaping

> up...the last dosage was 375mg if I remember right.

> Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with

> a " Personal Summer " that never ended up until about 2 months ago.

> Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a

> hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.

>

> Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain

> sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1 grain

> right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant to

> Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No

> one in their right body should have to take this much.sigh....

>

> Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed,

> Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.

> Multi Vit

> Super B Complex

> Iron

> Calcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med or

> vit)

> Selenium 200mg

> Omega 3 and 6 oils

> Vit C

> Vit E

> etc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion

>

> I walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider when

> its snowing or too cold.

> And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning

> muscle.

> I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...

>

> Went to work last June in a building right next to an International

> Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel at

> least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings

> and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't

> healthy.

> Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in

> our direction we could smell what spices they were mixing.

>

> The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who

> needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes

> wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).

>

> I resigned from this job at the end of January.

>

> Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber, another one

> in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried

> three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.

>

> Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too much,

> thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.

>

> I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to flush

> the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport.

> Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.

> Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....

>

> My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my

> Free T3 was near the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork

> right now)

>

> My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And

> since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although

> at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager

> breakouts stuff.

>

> I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon.

> Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some necessary

> studying/reading.

> Sleep 8-9 hours a night.

>

> For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the sinus

> infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...

>

> My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the

> weight gain/food craving and the skin issues...

>

> Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop the

> need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I

> missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something?

> Change something?

>

> I need to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the

> middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> Gossimer

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The trouble about those Mexican fires, Topper, was that none of us ever knew what kinds of chemicals were in them. But you certainly could be right about my labs "looking good on paper", but maybe not "hitting the target" properly. The thing is that I still don't know why I can't take two grains of Armour any more, unless it's adrenal in nature, but one thing I do know is that my heart can't take 160 bpm any more, that's dangerous, and it went on for a couple of days or so, until I got off of everything for a few days, over a week, I'm thinking. I'm 54 and can't handle that much T3, no matter what the reason is. Now, if I found out that I need adrenal supplementation for SURE, then I would go for that.

Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

Gossimer...

I'm gonna ponder on this some more.. but for now...

What are you taking for adrenal support.... what time of day are you taking it?

Did I count right.. six grain of Armour 2 swallowed the other 4 sublingual and multi dosed?

Are you breaking the pills to expose the insides when you dose them sublingually.... (you probably have larger dose tabs that you are splitting to make the 1 grain doses that you take.... but I'll ask to be sure)

You're taking Selenium with food?

The other thought that comes to mind right now...

You are on a relatively high dose.. with labs that 'look' decent... but still have some symptoms creeping up..... if we consider that the labs are showing what is left in the blood, what is still free.... what if there is an absorption issue/receptor issue... and even though what is still showing high in the blood is really still low at the receptor sites.... ????

Chemicals can alter how our bodies do stuff... I wonder if there is something going on with the chemicals and your receptors?

.... did you catch this..? You have some background with chemicals from the fires that you've told us about... does any of this hit anything in your brain box??

One last one, for now, Gossimer.... the afternoon naps... how is your day structured? are you one that sleeps when you have days that are too.... 'free flowing' ? Did that make sense? Or are you actually zoning out when doing stuff?

How is your breathing?

..... I'm coming up with more questions...

How is your breathing? With the sinus infection I'm wondering if you aren't oxygenating properly and that is contributing to your mid day fatigue....

Antibiotics, can they bind with thyroid hormone? Might they be reducing the availability of what you are taking? Does anyone know??

I'm stopping for now... we'll all keep picking on this and see what our communal brain can start bringing out....

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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0000 "gossimerwingz" writes:

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Yes, you're right, vinegar IS acid. Baking soda is alkaline, but I can't stand that stuff. Stopped using it for brushing my teeth, it kept my gums swollen all the time. I believe that it's lots of veggies, particularly green ones that help to alkalize the body.

Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

I know a person who used to down 1 tablespoon of vinegar every morning.. said it helped with metabolism. I know certainly it adds acid to the stomach & gets rid of heartburn... I'm a big fan of 'natural' remedies.

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yes, it's an old wives tale that my dad said worked and I thought I would try it... If I had to measure it out, I would say a few teaspoons-tablespoons... Drink one or two of each and wait and see... it works almost instantly for me and for the others that have tried it. You can use any type of vinegar although I keep white around for baths to guard against yeast infections and to use for heartburn. In cooking I'll use apple cider vinegar. I don't see a difference in the effect level, except that they both work. So try it and let me know how it works for you .

Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

Hi Gossimer,

I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes.

Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon honey.

Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1 sweet n low

I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy. Vinegar helps with losing inches.

Srnding Love, Rita in Patopper2@... wrote:

Gossimer...

I'm gonna ponder on this some more.. but for now...

What are you taking for adrenal support.... what time of day are you taking it?

Did I count right.. six grain of Armour 2 swallowed the other 4 sublingual and multi dosed?

Are you breaking the pills to expose the insides when you dose them sublingually.... (you probably have larger dose tabs that you are splitting to make the 1 grain doses that you take.... but I'll ask to be sure)

You're taking Selenium with food?

The other thought that comes to mind right now...

You are on a relatively high dose.. with labs that 'look' decent... but still have some symptoms creeping up..... if we consider that the labs are showing what is left in the blood, what is still free.... what if there is an absorption issue/receptor issue... and even though what is still showing high in the blood is really still low at the receptor sites.... ????

Chemicals can alter how our bodies do stuff... I wonder if there is something going on with the chemicals and your receptors?

.... did you catch this..? You have some background with chemicals from the fires that you've told us about... does any of this hit anything in your brain box??

One last one, for now, Gossimer.... the afternoon naps... how is your day structured? are you one that sleeps when you have days that are too.... 'free flowing' ? Did that make sense? Or are you actually zoning out when doing stuff?

How is your breathing?

..... I'm coming up with more questions...

How is your breathing? With the sinus infection I'm wondering if you aren't oxygenating properly and that is contributing to your mid day fatigue....

Antibiotics, can they bind with thyroid hormone? Might they be reducing the availability of what you are taking? Does anyone know??

I'm stopping for now... we'll all keep picking on this and see what our communal brain can start bringing out....

Topper ()

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0000 "gossimerwingz" writes:

Okay, I have a question for you all, however I'll give you a bit of background first:Diagnosed 1990: Hashimoto's Disease, showed symptoms way before thisLived off of Synthyroid for 15 years with the dosage slowly creaping up...the last dosage was 375mg if I remember right.Could not get warm for years. Then about 2002 started living with a "Personal Summer" that never ended up until about 2 months ago. Changed over to Armour, then Natural Thryoid as I couldn't get a hold of Armour...Now back onto Armour through my health insurance.Armour, 2 grains swallowed first thing along with 1 grain sublingual, than 1 grain before lunch, 1 grain midafternoon, 1 grain right before bed, all these sublingual....And Yes I am resistant to Thryoid replacement therapy...thus the huge amounts of Armour. No one in their right body should have to take this much.sigh.... Adrenal support 1 tab a day, swallowed, Hyzaar, because of the weight issue effecting the bp.Multi VitSuper B ComplexIronCalcium (all by itself so it doesn't interfere with any other med or vit)Selenium 200mgOmega 3 and 6 oilsVit CVit Eetc... all taken with food to increase the absorbtion I walk when it isn't snowing outside and use a Gazelle strider when its snowing or too cold.And I am working with weights, trying to build up some fat burning muscle.I have bad knees to work with, so, no deep lunges...Went to work last June in a building right next to an International Airport, along side of its runways. We could smell the spent fuel at least 4 times a day, along with the burnt rubber from the landings and the take offs...so I knew the air inside the building wasn't healthy.Across the street was a Spice factory which when the winds blew in our direction we could smell what spices they were mixing.The job was high stress sales/order taker with a supervisor who needs well, lets leave it at a high stress situation (I sometimes wonder how I lasted as long as I did...ah well, another story).I resigned from this job at the end of January. Came down with the first sinus infection last Novemeber, another one in January and my current one two weeks ago. My DO has now tried three different antibiotics to get rid of this infection.Now on top of this infection I am eating(craving food) way too much, thus putting on weight that I for sure don't need.I drink what seems like gallons of water each day...trying to flush the toxins from my body from the air pollution of the Airport. Eat salads every day to keep things flushed out, not stopped up.Eat at least one piece of fruit a day....My last test results had my TSH at 0.07, Free T4 mid range and my Free T3 was near the top of the range...(can't find the paperwork right now)My skin is breaking out like I am a teenager all over again. And since I am almost at the half century mark I don't think, although at times I wish I was, my body should be doing the teenager breakouts stuff. I am sleepy and am taking naps in the middle of the afternoon. Falling asleep is more like it in the middle of doing some necessary studying/reading.Sleep 8-9 hours a night.For the last week I have been in a foul mood...it could be the sinus infections effecting my patience levels....however...sigh...My concern is the sleeping in the middle of the afternoon, the weight gain/food craving and the skin issues... Does anyone, can anyone see something that I need to do to stop the need for the mid afternoon naps and the craving of foods? Am I missing something? Do I need to add something? Remove something? Change something? I need to get back to work somewheres...however, sleeping in the middle of the afternoon doesn't go over very well with the bosses. Thanks for your help!Gossimer

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Hi , Did I see right you use apple cider vinegar for your arthritis and you say it is working. wrote: ,I have been lurking for a time. I have to comment on the vinegar. In order for it to be effective it HAS to be Pure Apple Cider Vinegar from the health food stores & it should be Pure Unslufured Blackstrap Molasses, also from a health food store. Why in the world would you use Sweet & Low ? ? ? ? That stuff is PURE poison !!!! I am in an Herbal group also & we have just been discussing this combination "we call it Body Balance". I am trying it for my arthritis & it seems to be helping. It also makes you feel better.I did notice you are diabetic according to the diabetics on the herbal group the molasses will

be ok for you too.>> I know a person who used to down 1 tablespoon of vinegar every morning.. said it helped with metabolism. I know certainly it adds acid to the stomach & gets rid of heartburn... I'm a big fan of 'natural' remedies.> > > > > Hi Gossimer, > > I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes.> > Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon honey.> > Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1 sweet n low > > I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is

why I use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy. Vinegar helps with losing inches.> > Srnding Love, Rita in Pa> > Tina

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-Tina,

Yes you read right. Every morning & night I take one tablespoon of

Apple cider Vinegar & one tablespoon of Unsulfered black strap

Molasses. You can do it 3 times a day for the first couple weeks to

get it to kick in faster. I put the Vinegar in water, & I eat the

molasses straight, some people think it's too sweet & put it in the

water with the Vinegar.

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , Tina Hummel

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> Hi ,

> Did I see right you use apple cider vinegar for your

arthritis and you say it is working.

>

> wrote:

> ,

> I have been lurking for a time. I have to comment on the vinegar.

In

> order for it to be effective it HAS to be Pure Apple Cider Vinegar

> from the health food stores & it should be Pure Unslufured

Blackstrap

> Molasses, also from a health food store. Why in the world would you

> use Sweet & Low ? ? ? ? That stuff is PURE poison !!!! I am in an

> Herbal group also & we have just been discussing this

combination " we

> call it Body Balance " . I am trying it for my arthritis & it seems

to

> be helping. It also makes you feel better.

> I did notice you are diabetic according to the diabetics on the

> herbal group the molasses will be ok for you too.

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> > I know a person who used to down 1 tablespoon of vinegar every

> morning.. said it helped with metabolism. I know certainly it adds

> acid to the stomach & gets rid of heartburn... I'm a big fan

> of 'natural' remedies.

> >

> >

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Gossimer,

> >

> > I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a

> recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give

you

> his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes.

> >

> > Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon

> honey.

> >

> > Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1

sweet

> n low

> >

> > I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I

use

> white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with

> everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy. Vinegar

> helps with losing inches.

> >

> > Srnding Love, Rita in Pa

> >

>

> >

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yeah... I don't use sweet & low... I can't stand the stuff. I use organic sugar. I've used apple cider and regular white and don't notice a difference, I notice that they both help in the amount of time equally to each other. That's what they do for me, others may have better luck with white or apple. I'm not diabetic here. Are you replying to Gossimer's comments?

Re: Help!!!! with sleep, food, skin issue questions

,I have been lurking for a time. I have to comment on the vinegar. In order for it to be effective it HAS to be Pure Apple Cider Vinegar from the health food stores & it should be Pure Unslufured Blackstrap Molasses, also from a health food store. Why in the world would you use Sweet & Low ? ? ? ? That stuff is PURE poison !!!! I am in an Herbal group also & we have just been discussing this combination "we call it Body Balance". I am trying it for my arthritis & it seems to be helping. It also makes you feel better.I did notice you are diabetic according to the diabetics on the herbal group the molasses will be ok for you too.>> I know a person who used to down 1 tablespoon of vinegar every morning.. said it helped with metabolism. I know certainly it adds acid to the stomach & gets rid of heartburn... I'm a big fan of 'natural' remedies.> > > > > Hi Gossimer, > > I can give you and energy drink, it may sound crazy, but it's a recipe from my dad, he was born in 1898. It's homemade. I'll give you his recipe then mine that I adapted for Type 2 Diabetes.> > Dad's - 16 oz water, 1 tablespoon cider vinegar, 1 tablespoon honey.> > Rita's Type2 - 16 oz water, 2 tablespoons vinegar(white), 1 sweet n low > > I hope this helps, cider vinegar is fermented, which is why I use white vinegar. Vinegar alkalizes the body, so it should help with everything. The body needs to be alkaline to be healthy. Vinegar helps with losing inches.> > Srnding Love, Rita in Pa> >