Re: I'm too warm most of the time.....

November 25, 2007

Atenolol almost kikilled me when I was hypo as it lowers thyroid function in

the body.

Was that propranonol Val? I sent you some info on this recently remember?

Mo

November 25, 2007

But it was Atenolol that almost did me in.

It is important to be aware that Atenolol does not lower thyroid as the

other beta blockers do.

Mo

November 25, 2007

Says who? It most certainly DOES lwoer thyroid just as all the beta blockers

do.

I sent you the research about two or three weeks ago Val.

Mo

November 25, 2007

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm new to the group and would love an answer to my two worst

> symptoms. The first is dizziness, which is always worse when I

don't

> get enough sleep, during pms or start of my cycle.

When you say dizziness, do you mean light headed when you stand up or

do you mean vertigo? The light headedness is a common symptom of low

cortisol.

I have been on HC for the past few months (15mg am, 15 mg pm), but

have been weaning off of

> it now for the past month or two. My doctor said my adrenals were

> suppressed, so I needed to slowly go off of the HC. I would love

> other suggestions on how to help my adrenals or where this comes

> from?? HC didn't seem to be the answer for me......

>

This sounds like a very bizarre dosing schedule. I am sure Val will

have more to say about this. There is a file for Newcomers in the

file section that might be helpful.

English

November 25, 2007

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I'm new to the group and would love an answer to my two worst

> > symptoms. The first is dizziness, which is always worse when I

> don't

> > get enough sleep, during pms or start of my cycle.

>

> When you say dizziness, do you mean light headed when you stand up

or

> do you mean vertigo? The light headedness is a common symptom of

low

> cortisol.

>

> I have been on HC for the past few months (15mg am, 15 mg pm), but

> have been weaning off of

> > it now for the past month or two. My doctor said my adrenals were

> > suppressed, so I needed to slowly go off of the HC. I would love

> > other suggestions on how to help my adrenals or where this comes

> > from?? HC didn't seem to be the answer for me......

> >

>

> This sounds like a very bizarre dosing schedule. I am sure Val will

> have more to say about this. There is a file for Newcomers in the

> file section that might be helpful.

>

> English

>

My word is dizzy, but it is probably light headedness. It just seems

much stronger than being light headed. Sometimes when it's really bad

I actually get what feels like " waves " going through me. I've had my

head thoroughly checked (MRI, EEG, etc.) and there's nothing

neurological causing it. I feel spacey, dizzy, foggy in the brain and

tired! It goes away sometimes and I can't figure out why. It's never

completely gone, but it's better and it definitely seems worse with

pms and the start of my cycle. Is HC the only treatment for

struggling adrenals? I try to get good sleep, eat well, etc., but

that's not enough....

~a

November 25, 2007

> My word is dizzy, but it is probably light headedness. It just seems

> much stronger than being light headed. Sometimes when it's really bad

> I actually get what feels like " waves " going through me. I've had my

> head thoroughly checked (MRI, EEG, etc.) and there's nothing

> neurological causing it. I feel spacey, dizzy, foggy in the brain and

> tired! It goes away sometimes and I can't figure out why. It's never

> completely gone, but it's better and it definitely seems worse with

> pms and the start of my cycle. Is HC the only treatment for

> struggling adrenals? I try to get good sleep, eat well, etc., but

> that's not enough....

>

> ~a

>

What is your Blood Pressure like?

English

November 25, 2007

The HC is not helping your adrenals due to improper dosing. You need to

mimic the body's naturla cortiosl rythym as much as possible for HC to

actually work for you. Teh sweating is cortiosll related as well or low

aldosterone. Have you had Aldosterone checked? That would be a place ot

start. You also do not say what other supplements oyu take? Unrefined

sea salt is the very best thing you can take for your adrenal's health.

They run on sodium and the trace minerals in sea salt are just what our

bodies need. Tat and vitamin C and B vitamoins can make a world of

difference, but I suspect your HC dosing is the very worse thing you are

doing wrong. To take 30MG your dosing could be like this:

10mg 7am - 10mg 11am - 5mg 2PM - 5mg 6pm or bedtie depending in if oyu

have sleep issues or not. OR

10 - 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 if you seem to have low energy in the

afternoon/evenings. This dosing works better as 15mg taken at once

lowers your ACTh sdo much thta you are guaranteed to run low on cortiosl

later in the day, and the HC only stays in the system 4 hours so you are

going up and down all day. Naturla cortiosl will peak at 8 am then

slowly lower to it's lowest point around midnight.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

November 25, 2007

>

> The HC is not helping your adrenals due to improper dosing. You

need to

> mimic the body's naturla cortiosl rythym as much as possible for HC

to

> actually work for you. Teh sweating is cortiosll related as well or

low

> aldosterone. Have you had Aldosterone checked? That would be a

place ot

> start. You also do not say what other supplements oyu take?

Unrefined

> sea salt is the very best thing you can take for your adrenal's

health.

> They run on sodium and the trace minerals in sea salt are just what

our

> bodies need. Tat and vitamin C and B vitamoins can make a world of

> difference, but I suspect your HC dosing is the very worse thing

you are

> doing wrong. To take 30MG your dosing could be like this:

> 10mg 7am - 10mg 11am - 5mg 2PM - 5mg 6pm or bedtie depending in if

oyu

> have sleep issues or not. OR

> 10 - 7.5 - 7.5 - 5 if you seem to have low energy in the

> afternoon/evenings. This dosing works better as 15mg taken at once

> lowers your ACTh sdo much thta you are guaranteed to run low on

cortiosl

> later in the day, and the HC only stays in the system 4 hours so

you are

> going up and down all day. Naturla cortiosl will peak at 8 am then

> slowly lower to it's lowest point around midnight.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

Thank you ,

Right now my doctor has me taking 5mg HC first thing in the morning

for the next month then nothing after that.

The other supplements I take are compounded progesterone and

testosterone, pregnenolone and 7-keto DHEA, Adderall (very small

amounts), Atenolol for high bp and high pulse rate, Revitalization

powdered vitamin powder and B complex (by Dr. Teitelbaum), B12

injections when I'm up to it, krill oil (fish oil), Power Cell,

Maitake-d fraction, Anti-Yeast, Anti-Viral, Transfer Factor Basics,

Russian Choice Immune and Adrenal Repair, Melatonin at night for

sleep, Coag Clear and Rest and Restore, and the compounded T3 I

already mentioned. I was told to take all of these by my current

doctor (an FFC doctor). It seems like an awful lot to me, besides

costing a fortune, and I don't see that much improvement. Are you

familiar with these supplements??

I have never tried unrefined sea salt. Is there a file I should read

to explain it? I'd love to know more and what brand is best and where

to buy it, how to take it, etc. I also drink lots of water and I

always put an Emergen-C packet or two in my large water bottle. I

know Vitamin C helps many things.

The only aldosterone test I had was last November at the Mayo clinic.

My reading was 6.6 with a range of 1-21 ng/dl. I've read just a

little bit recently on this and the symptoms seemed to fit me. I

wonder if this might be part of why I have high BP and pulse rate. I

am not overweight and I am only 39. I would like to get off of the

Atenolol I am taking for this because it only adds to my fatigue and

symptoms. Is the renin test important too? It was also tested with

the aldosterone and my reading was 1.5. They show two ranges: Na-

depleted, upright as 2.9-24 and Na-replete, upright of <= 0.6-4.3

ng/ml/hour. It's not completely clear which applies to me. I am

planning to test these again in the next few weeks to have my doctor

address it if needed. Is there a file I can read to learn more before

I propose it to him? Are these considered low readings? I'd love to

hear what you know and how it might relate to my symptoms.

Thank you!!

~a

November 25, 2007

>

> > My word is dizzy, but it is probably light headedness. It just

seems

> > much stronger than being light headed. Sometimes when it's really

bad

> > I actually get what feels like " waves " going through me. I've had

my

> > head thoroughly checked (MRI, EEG, etc.) and there's nothing

> > neurological causing it. I feel spacey, dizzy, foggy in the brain

and

> > tired! It goes away sometimes and I can't figure out why. It's

never

> > completely gone, but it's better and it definitely seems worse

with

> > pms and the start of my cycle. Is HC the only treatment for

> > struggling adrenals? I try to get good sleep, eat well, etc., but

> > that's not enough....

> >

> > ~a

> >

>

> What is your Blood Pressure like?

>

> English

>

I went to the Mayo Clinic last fall and they had me wear a walk

around cuff for 6 hours and my average pressure during that time was

146/103. My pulse rate was regularly over 100 also. It was then that

I started taking Atenolol for the first time. It controls it but adds

to my symptoms, especially fatigue.

I was also just writing to (she asked about it) that my

aldosterone level then was 6.6 with a range of 1-21 ng/dl (and Renin

Activity 1.5). I wonder if these are low levels?? Are you familiar

with those tests?

~a

November 25, 2007

a,

Val is the expert. I am pretty new to all of this. I asked about your

BP because that is also another cause of light headedness.

English

November 25, 2007

>>Is HC the only treatment for

> struggling adrenals? I try to get good sleep, eat well, etc., but

> that's not enough....<<

You may also need Aldosterone as well and low sodium (which low Aldosterone

causes) cn cause this type of symptom.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

November 25, 2007

>>The other supplements I take are compounded progesterone and