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From an article by Alfred Plechner:

However, when the adrenal cortex is unable to produce enough cortisol,

or for some reason the cortisol is bound, or otherwise inactive, and

thus not recognized by the system, the pituitary continues to produce

ACTH in order to extract more cortisol.

One consistent consequence of this activity that I have not seen

reported elsewhere is the generation of a physiologically significant

increase of estrogen compounds into the system. The added endogenous

estrogen may come from ACTH-stimulated androgens, produced by the inner

layer of the cortex (zona reticularis), which convert in part to

estrogens in peripheral tissue, (1) or from " interface " cortical tissue

that may directly secrete estrogen compounds. (2) (3) I routinely

measure elevated estrogen in all animals with the endocrine-immune

disturbance-male and female, intact or neutered-and thus the excess

cannot be attributed to ovarian activity. It is possible, however, that

environmental estrogenic compounds in industrial chemicals and in food

(such as soybeans) contribute to increased estrogen as well.

From this site:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_247-248/ai_113807020

As he speaks of BOUND cortisol which explains alot of why some of us

have HIGH cortisll and suymptoms of low cortiosl, I wonder if ACTH serum

testing would be of any value?

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Fascinating!

Is there such a test as ACTH serum level?

thanks,

sol

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> From this site:

> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_247-248/ai_113807020

>

> As he speaks of BOUND cortisol which explains alot of why some of us

> have HIGH cortisll and suymptoms of low cortiosl, I wonder if ACTH serum

> testing would be of any value?

>

>

>

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Interesting.

Estrogen dominance could bind cortisol? Could that be why taking

progesterone cream is helping many? Eliminating the estrogen

dominance, thus clearing the way for better cortisol pathways?

Is this what they are saying?

What else could one do to " unbind' the cortisol? Anyone know?

Is there a test to see if you are 'binding' your cortisol....is that

the ACTH test?

Sorry so many questions....trying to understand.

Naffy

>

> From an article by Alfred Plechner:

>

> However, when the adrenal cortex is unable to produce enough

cortisol,

> or for some reason the cortisol is bound, or otherwise inactive,

and

> thus not recognized by the system, the pituitary continues to

produce

> ACTH in order to extract more cortisol.

>

> One consistent consequence of this activity that I have not seen

> reported elsewhere is the generation of a physiologically

significant

> increase of estrogen compounds into the system. The added

endogenous

> estrogen may come from ACTH-stimulated androgens, produced by the

inner

> layer of the cortex (zona reticularis), which convert in part to

> estrogens in peripheral tissue, (1) or from " interface " cortical

tissue

> that may directly secrete estrogen compounds. (2) (3) I routinely

> measure elevated estrogen in all animals with the endocrine-immune

> disturbance-male and female, intact or neutered-and thus the

excess

> cannot be attributed to ovarian activity. It is possible, however,

that

> environmental estrogenic compounds in industrial chemicals and in

food

> (such as soybeans) contribute to increased estrogen as well.

>

> From this site:

> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_247-248/ai_113807020

>

> As he speaks of BOUND cortisol which explains alot of why some of

us

> have HIGH cortisll and suymptoms of low cortiosl, I wonder if ACTH

serum

> testing would be of any value?

>

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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>.What else could one do to " unbind' the cortisol? Anyone know?

Is there a test to see if you are 'binding' your cortisol....is that

the ACTH test?<<

I do nto know that cortisol that is bound can be unbound, just as thyroid that

is bound just passes out of the body unused. An ACTH serum that was high with

low Free Cortisol would show a possibilkity of bound cortilsl, but I ma not sure

if they can test for bound and unbound cortiosl.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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He mentions with reference to cortisol... " low/bound/defective. For

low we would take HC, and probably even for 'bound'. But what on

earth would render our cortisol 'defective'.? Would all three

scenarios require the use of HC?

Also he mentions 'bioidentical cortisone derived from plants " . I

thought that had been disproven on the forums....I think it was over

at STTM, and someone said that it didn't exist, that the only one

was hydrocortisone. Am I correct?

Finally, what do you think about where he says that in animals, once

he regulates the estrogen excess and antibodies,(IgA) no further

cortisol testing is necessary? Would seem to imply that for humans

too? Now that would be interesting if true!

Very interesting reading......almost makes me want to stay on my HC

for life, instead of hurrying to wean.

Thanks Val,

naffy

>

> >.What else could one do to " unbind' the cortisol? Anyone know?

> Is there a test to see if you are 'binding' your cortisol....is

that

> the ACTH test?<<

>

> I do nto know that cortisol that is bound can be unbound, just as

thyroid that is bound just passes out of the body unused. An ACTH

serum that was high with low Free Cortisol would show a possibilkity

of bound cortilsl, but I ma not sure if they can test for bound and

unbound cortiosl.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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>>He mentions with reference to cortisol... " low/bound/defective. For

low we would take HC, and probably even for 'bound'. But what on

earth would render our cortisol 'defective'.? Would all three

scenarios require the use of HC? <<

All these would create low cortiosl conditions in the bodyu so would require

replacement.

>>Also he mentions 'bioidentical cortisone derived from plants " . I

thought that had been disproven on the forums....I think it was over

at STTM, and someone said that it didn't exist, that the only one

was hydrocortisone. Am I correct?<<

I think hydrocortisone is made from plants, it is synthetic but bioidentical.

>>Finally, what do you think about where he says that in animals, once

he regulates the estrogen excess and antibodies,(IgA) no further

cortisol testing is necessary? Would seem to imply that for humans

too? Now that would be interesting if true!<<

I have severalbooks by this man and one is abotu how his research could apply to

human health. Yes I am sure it would work for us as well as animals. BTW it was

his book " Pets At Risk " that convinced me to try HC finally myself.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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