Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Nicola, I'm sorry that you laid awake last night again. There is just nothing worse than laying there knowing how important it is that you sleep and rest, but you can't (OK, there are worse things, but it doesn't feel that way when it's happening, especially if you're panicking at the same time). I can't say for sure whether these attacks always happen on days on which I over did it. I don't have much, or any, cortisol reserves and I have had way too many hard, stressful days lately so it could be. However, the attack that I had last Sat. night did not follow a particularly stressful day so I'm not sure of that link. At this point, I'm leaning more towards your other theory of eating and taking cortisol late at night before bed being the more probable cause of my problems. My digestion is horrible and has been for a long time - almost certainly due to hypo. That delayed stomach emptying condition sounds very plausible. As I wrote earlier today, I did not eat or take that bed-time dose of HC last night and I slept through the night without an attack. I had to get up at 6:30AM to eat a little, but that's no biggie compared to laying awake half of the night geeking on too much cortisol, adrenaline, or whatever my body is doing to me. I think that I am going to add the 8PM dose of 2.5 of HC to along with my increased day time doses of 10,5,5. I also need to start stress dosing as you and Val say, but it frankly scares the !@#$ out of me to think about taking 40 or more mgs of HC. I need to it though. Have a nice T-Day and I sincerely that we both sleep tnite. > > > > another thought occurred to me last night as I was lying awake (!). > I get this attack after a day of not enough cortisol. If I have > overdone it, then I get this pounding heart thing about 1 1/2 hours > after going to sleep, even with a bedtime dose of pred. > > I view cortisol dosing as having to keep a car half full of petrol. > If you get down to empty, its not simply a case of filling up again > and off you go. For me, I have to keep the car half full, otherwise > I have problems, like these nighttime attacks. > > It's possible that your daytime HC dosing is not enough to cover your > needs during the day, especially now you have raised thyroid, and > your body lets you know it at nighttime. My body absorbs cortisol > like a sponge - if I haven't had enough during the day, I can easily > take a double dose just to catch up and avoid symptoms and > a 'crash'. So if you run on e during the day, that bedtime dose is > not nearly enough, hence the crash. > > Maybe Val has something to add, and everyone's dosing is different > for their bodies. This is just something I have noticed for me. > > On that logic, you might want to increase your HC further... try it > and see? > > best > Nicola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 YOu know, I have had these episodes too (at least I think we are talking about the same thing), rapid heart rate and feeling breathless upon waking? I also get them in the day if I have not slept well the night before, I have a chest cold, or too much alcohol/caffeine consumption. We have looked at MVP over and over and I do not have it, so SVT is the diagnosis; however, from some research on magnesium and then adrenal issues, it appear that we are lacking sufficient electrolytes. I know that when I am consistent with the magnesium, those epidsodes do not happen. But, I just can't get to that optimal feeling of good health. It seems that just when I sorta feel half decent, I start working out and I go hyper and it all crashes. Anyway, I wa watching this YOUTUBE video and I am interested in the product that this doctor discusses. It might be beneficial along with your HC: > Nicola, I'm sorry that you laid awake last night again. There is just > nothing worse than laying there knowing how important it is that you > sleep and rest, but you can't (OK, there are worse things, but it > doesn't feel that way when it's happening, especially if you're > panicking at the same time). I can't say for sure whether these > attacks always happen on days on which I over did it. I don't have > much, or any, cortisol reserves and I have had way too many hard, > stressful days lately so it could be. However, the attack that I had > last Sat. night did not follow a particularly stressful day so I'm not > sure of that link. At this point, I'm leaning more towards your other > theory of eating and taking cortisol late at night before bed being > the more probable cause of my problems. My digestion is horrible and > has been for a long time - almost certainly due to hypo. That delayed > stomach emptying condition sounds very plausible. As I wrote earlier > today, I did not eat or take that bed-time dose of HC last night and I > slept through the night without an attack. I had to get up at 6:30AM > to eat a little, but that's no biggie compared to laying awake half of > the night geeking on too much cortisol, adrenaline, or whatever my > body is doing to me. I think that I am going to add the 8PM dose of > 2.5 of HC to along with my increased day time doses of 10,5,5. I also > need to start stress dosing as you and Val say, but it frankly scares > the !@#$ out of me to think about taking 40 or more mgs of HC. I need > to it though. > > Have a nice T-Day and I sincerely that we both sleep tnite. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I had the rapid heart rate and SOB and also sweating, anxiety (sometimes panic), tingling and aching in the extremities, and I could literally feel my entire GI system activating and spasming which caused nausea, cramping, stomach ache and the urge to go to the bathroom without being able to. The last attack I had was a few days ago after several days of not taking melatonin and it lacked the heart palps, SOB, and anxiety. I have now slept well for two nights in a row and the change that I made was to drop my bed-time dose of HC and the big snack that I had to eat with it. I also dropped the 10mg of DHEA that I had been taking on my doc's orders but I tend to doubt that it had anything to do with it. I am not currently taking anything with magnesium in it but it seems like I need to be looking into that. I started to watch the video below and I'm going to finish it and check out some of his others. -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " " wrote: > > YOu know, I have had these episodes too (at least I think we are > talking about the same thing), rapid heart rate and feeling breathless > upon waking? I also get them in the day if I have not slept well the > night before, I have a chest cold, or too much alcohol/caffeine > consumption. We have looked at MVP over and over and I do not have it, > so SVT is the diagnosis; however, from some research on magnesium and > then adrenal issues, it appear that we are lacking sufficient > electrolytes. I know that when I am consistent with the magnesium, > those epidsodes do not happen. But, I just can't get to that optimal > feeling of good health. It seems that just when I sorta feel half > decent, I start working out and I go hyper and it all crashes. Anyway, > I wa watching this YOUTUBE video and I am interested in the product > that this doctor discusses. It might be beneficial along with your HC: > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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