Re: Spotting between periods and HC?

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No cramping, just spotting. I would notice it one day, then a couple of days

nothing, then it would be back again. This month it was 3 or 4 days of

spotting but spread out over two weeks.

I had a polyp that did the same thing until I eventually had surgery on it

so I am not going to worry about it for the next few months while I get my

meds and body adjusted but if it persists after 6 months I will go in and

get it checked to make sure it is not the polyp again because last time it

was a cancer scare.

Cheri

Re: Spotting between periods and HC?

Hi Cheri,

Did yours come with cramping or just spotting? I know from the RTH

forum that others have had similar experience. Did yours stop yet?

Thanks!

Bonnie

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Bonnie,

This is my first cycle with HC and I now call myself " spotty

dotty " because it has been one day on, one day off for my 5 days.

It's still unwinding.

Tasia

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Sometimes the low cortiosl masks a sex hormone problem. This is why for

most of us it is best to correct both adrenal and thyroid problems

before messing wiht sex hormones, but for some the sesx hormone problem

is bad enough that it must be corrected at least as much as you can ,

during the thyroid/adrenal adjustment. I would get your sex hormones

checked out in case you need ot replace them. High estrogen is most

times form low cortios but when you add in enough cortiosl that estrogen

can drop dramatically to too low.

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Are you by any chance using progesterone cream?

I too had a total change in my periods and cycle since starting HC two years

ago. Nothing's ever been the same with my menstruation since then.

Re: Spotting between periods and HC?

I've been spotting every single day since October 18th, the day I

started HC (and the same day my cycle started). I've had one more

cycle that started Nov. 12th, and I've been spotting since the end of

that cycle too. It's not ever really too heavy but it's starting to

make me wonder if I need to go to my ob-gyn. I was just hoping it

would straighten itself out. I also have a little cramping but

nothing too serious.

Thanks for the replies!

Bonnie

>

> Bonnie,

> This is my first cycle with HC and I now call myself " spotty

> dotty " because it has been one day on, one day off for my 5 days.

> It's still unwinding.

>

>

> Tasia

>

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Val: That's interesting about the estrogen - my estrione was really

low (below range) before starting HC - as was my testosterone, but my

progesterone was towards the high end of the range, although I can't

remember at what point in my cycle the tests were run. I'm going to

guess that it wasn't during the first week with high progesterone

though. Maybe mid-cycle?

: Would progesterone cream help with the spotting? I'm

willing to try it! Isn't it true progesterone will convert to

estrogen but estrogen won't convert to progesterone? Maybe my

progest is high, but estrogen is low.

I know I need to get hormones checked, but I don't go back to my endo

til the 18th of Dec and I'm afraid to tell her about any problems I'm

having on HC (this is actually the only problem I'm having, otherwise

I feel great on HC) because it was like pulling teeth to get anything

from her. Her words were " I'll give you a trial but on paper you

don't have an adrenal problem " Yeah right! Low aldosterone/high

renin (both at FAR either end of " normal " ), A.M. cortisol of 7 (out

of 4-22), very low ACTH stim (15), high pulse, BP that drops on

standing from supine, plus all the other symptoms Dr. Lam mentions!

Maybe I can see my ob-gyn and he will run the tests. By the by, I

have also in the last few days increased my DHEA supplement from 5-10

mg/day to 50 mg/day, hoping that might help some, since my DHEA was

VERY low also. So far I haven't had any ill effects and this is day

5, but it also hasn't stopped the spotting either, so I'll probably

start tapering back down to 10 mg again.

Thanks for the replies!

Bonnie

>

> Sometimes the low cortiosl masks a sex hormone problem. This is why

for

> most of us it is best to correct both adrenal and thyroid problems

> before messing wiht sex hormones, but for some the sesx hormone

problem

> is bad enough that it must be corrected at least as much as you

can ,

> during the thyroid/adrenal adjustment. I would get your sex

hormones

> checked out in case you need ot replace them. High estrogen is most

> times form low cortios but when you add in enough cortiosl that

estrogen

> can drop dramatically to too low.

>

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>

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I would not take ANY sex hormones uneless oyu are low in them. Why would

you take Progesterone if it was high? It is more liekly you need estrogen.

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Okay then. I'll call my ob-gyn next week and set up an appointment.

He should be able to order the bloodwork and should be able to Rx

estrogen if I need it. What's the best natural estrogen to take

(providing I actually NEED it)? I am not taking any progesterone at

the moment. Not on anything but Armour (3 1/4), HC (25), DHEA, sea

salt and my vitamin/mineral supplements (all 50-gazillion of them!).

Thanks again!

Bonnie

>

> I would not take ANY sex hormones uneless oyu are low in them. Why

would

> you take Progesterone if it was high? It is more liekly you need

estrogen.

>

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>

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>

> Okay then. I'll call my ob-gyn next week and set up an appointment.

> He should be able to order the bloodwork and should be able to Rx

> estrogen if I need it. >

Bonnie,

Want to chirp in about hormones and blood tests. Using blood to

test for hormones is inferior to saliva testing. One reason has to do

with measuring the free amounts, saliva is more accurate and by the

time something shows up in blood then you know you have big

problems--I don't remember exactly how to explain this.

The second reason has to do with the same reason one does not use 1

test time to analyze cortisol levels. Lets say your doc ordered one

saliva test in the am to look at your cortisol--but what he does not

see is what the cortisol is doing the rest of the day. Same for the

female cycle. One peek into your cycle on day #__ does not tell the

dr. if you are on your way up, down, or if you have flat lined the

rest of the 30 days.

I know it is expensive, but the female hormone panel (FHP), is a month

long saliva test where you collect saliva on certain days. This test

gives you the full picture of how your hormones are acting for the

full month.

No two women are alike, so why should drs treat our cycles exactly the

same? No two cycles are alike either.

Tasia