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Thelma

I have had the EMG of the diapragm in conjuction with an exercise test. It

was negative. It involved putting two tubes down my nose. I'm not sure if

both were for the EMG or not. I had so many wires on me during the exercise

bike part that was hardly able to move. I don't remember any pain, just the

discomfort of the tubes going in.

laurie

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> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:48:57 -0000

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> Subject: EMG question

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I saw my neuro this week, and he didn't really have a lot of new

> ideas, other than an EMG of the diapragm and paraspinal muscles. Has

> anyone had this? I have had 4 EMG's of arm and leg and facial muscles

> which were normal. It is an effort to breathe in and out. I feel like

> my abdomen is doing most of the work.

>

> Thelma

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Talking about breathing and diaphragms, has anyone had spirometry? I

just had it done, I guess the basic type, and most of my values are

near or above 100% of my expected values. But, the FEF75 is 72%, and

I read that under 80% is considered impaired. Anybody have thoughts

on this or similar experiences?

Take care,

RH

> Thelma

>

> I have had the EMG of the diapragm in conjuction with an exercise

test. It

> was negative. It involved putting two tubes down my nose. I'm not

sure if

> both were for the EMG or not. I had so many wires on me during the

exercise

> bike part that was hardly able to move. I don't remember any pain,

just the

> discomfort of the tubes going in.

>

> laurie

>

> > From: " thelma " <mtshaw@e...>

> > Reply-To:

> > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:48:57 -0000

> > To:

> > Subject: EMG question

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I saw my neuro this week, and he didn't really have a lot of new

> > ideas, other than an EMG of the diapragm and paraspinal muscles.

Has

> > anyone had this? I have had 4 EMG's of arm and leg and facial

muscles

> > which were normal. It is an effort to breathe in and out. I feel

like

> > my abdomen is doing most of the work.

> >

> > Thelma

> >

> >

> >

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Maggie

I have had many EMGs and there didn't seem to be any problem with having a

muscle biopsy in that area after several years. They did try to avoid where

I had had a needle biopsy as that was scar tissue. It is not unusual to have

only one side tested when having an EMG. I have had just about every

combination of spots tested, including my diaphram.

laurie

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> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:13:04 -0000

> To:

> Subject: EMG question

>

> Hi,

> I had an EMG a couple of months ago and they only tested my right

> side, as they are trying to preserve the muscle for the biopsy that

> I will eventually get.

>

> I hadn't thought about it to ask, but I did have an EMG about seven

> years ago (If I am remembering correctly, it was limited to both of

> my legs only - but I'm not sure). Is the muscle tissue permanently

> compromised - or is seven years a long enough timeframe to not worry

> about it? Or does anybody know?

>

> Maggie

>

>

>

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Laurie,

Thanks. I was a little concerned after talking to my mom's neuro

and he mentioned that one of his patients had a biopsy ruined

because it just happened to be in the same spot as the needle for

the EMG and therefore they couldn't read it. (don't know how long

of a time between the EMG and biopsy).

I wondered if I needed to try to get the records from my first EMG

(since it's been 7 years, I may not have any luck).

Can I ask why they tested your diaphragm? Did it have to do with

breathing issues?

Maggie

> Maggie

>

> I have had many EMGs and there didn't seem to be any problem with

having a

> muscle biopsy in that area after several years. They did try to

avoid where

> I had had a needle biopsy as that was scar tissue. It is not

unusual to have

> only one side tested when having an EMG. I have had just about

every

> combination of spots tested, including my diaphram.

>

> laurie

>

> > From: " whoewe2002 " <whoewe2002@y...>

> > Reply-To:

> > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:13:04 -0000

> > To:

> > Subject: EMG question

> >

> > Hi,

> > I had an EMG a couple of months ago and they only tested my right

> > side, as they are trying to preserve the muscle for the biopsy

that

> > I will eventually get.

> >

> > I hadn't thought about it to ask, but I did have an EMG about

seven

> > years ago (If I am remembering correctly, it was limited to both

of

> > my legs only - but I'm not sure). Is the muscle tissue

permanently

> > compromised - or is seven years a long enough timeframe to not

worry

> > about it? Or does anybody know?

> >

> > Maggie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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contained herein

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consult with their

> > physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

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sends one is

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the attack.

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Maggie

My opinion on EMGs is that they can be of value if someone is good at doing

them and interpreting them. I have had abnormal EMGs and then months later a

normal one in the same area. I have also found that I can have a very

abnormal one that is said to be normal because they couldn't interpret the

abnormality.

I had the diaphragm EMG as part of an extensive exercise test. It was done

primarily because of my air hunger and exercise intolerance.

laurie

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> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:44:21 -0000

> To:

> Subject: Re: EMG question

>

> Laurie,

> Thanks. I was a little concerned after talking to my mom's neuro

> and he mentioned that one of his patients had a biopsy ruined

> because it just happened to be in the same spot as the needle for

> the EMG and therefore they couldn't read it. (don't know how long

> of a time between the EMG and biopsy).

>

> I wondered if I needed to try to get the records from my first EMG

> (since it's been 7 years, I may not have any luck).

>

> Can I ask why they tested your diaphragm? Did it have to do with

> breathing issues?

>

> Maggie

>

>

>

>> Maggie

>>

>> I have had many EMGs and there didn't seem to be any problem with

> having a

>> muscle biopsy in that area after several years. They did try to

> avoid where

>> I had had a needle biopsy as that was scar tissue. It is not

> unusual to have

>> only one side tested when having an EMG. I have had just about

> every

>> combination of spots tested, including my diaphram.

>>

>> laurie

>>

>>> From: " whoewe2002 " <whoewe2002@y...>

>>> Reply-To:

>>> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:13:04 -0000

>>> To:

>>> Subject: EMG question

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>> I had an EMG a couple of months ago and they only tested my right

>>> side, as they are trying to preserve the muscle for the biopsy

> that

>>> I will eventually get.

>>>

>>> I hadn't thought about it to ask, but I did have an EMG about

> seven

>>> years ago (If I am remembering correctly, it was limited to both

> of

>>> my legs only - but I'm not sure). Is the muscle tissue

> permanently

>>> compromised - or is seven years a long enough timeframe to not

> worry

>>> about it? Or does anybody know?

>>>

>>> Maggie

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

> contained herein

>>> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of

> this e mail is

>>> entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded

> of their

>>> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and

> consult with their

>>> physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>>>

>>> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

> sends one is

>>> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of

> the attack.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Laurie,

Did the diaphragm EMG give you any answers?

Maggie

>

> I had the diaphragm EMG as part of an extensive exercise test. It

was done

> primarily because of my air hunger and exercise intolerance.

>

> laurie

>

>

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Maggie

There wasn't much that was significant in the entire testing. The diaphragm

EMG didn't give me any answers other than to know that the air hunger was

more related to the exercise intolerance than to diaphragm weakness. It is

not a test that I would like to have very often. I had two tubes down my

nose, EKG leads, respiratory bands, blood pressure cuff and pulse oximeter

on. I then had to ride a stationary bike, while breathing through a large

hose. I then had to indicate my feelings of fatigue, pain, etc. every 30

seconds by pointing to a chart with my right hand. They were drawing blood

gases from the left. It took about 2-1/2 hours to prep me and do the test.

laurie

>

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> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 18:36:53 -0000

> To:

> Subject: Re: EMG question

>

> Laurie,

>

> Did the diaphragm EMG give you any answers?

>

> Maggie

>

>>

>> I had the diaphragm EMG as part of an extensive exercise test. It

> was done

>> primarily because of my air hunger and exercise intolerance.

>>

>> laurie

>>

>>

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is

> entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their

> physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

>

>

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I could have sworn I read 6 months on the time between EMG and

biopsy in the same area. Don't quote me on it though ! I like

Laurie have had the full combination of poking and prodding in just

about every limb area. I know for my first needle biopsy they

didn't have a problem doing it two weeks after my knee surgery in

the thigh on the same side. I figured why be gimpy on both sides

eh ? Ultimately, the fresh open muscle biopsy was the only way to

dx the mito.

bug

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Laurie,

I pretty much had the same test - minus the two tubes down my nose

(glad they didn't think of that one!).

Maggie

> Maggie

>

> There wasn't much that was significant in the entire testing. The

diaphragm

> EMG didn't give me any answers other than to know that the air

hunger was

> more related to the exercise intolerance than to diaphragm

weakness. It is

> not a test that I would like to have very often. I had two tubes

down my

> nose, EKG leads, respiratory bands, blood pressure cuff and pulse

oximeter

> on. I then had to ride a stationary bike, while breathing through

a large

> hose. I then had to indicate my feelings of fatigue, pain, etc.

every 30

> seconds by pointing to a chart with my right hand. They were

drawing blood

> gases from the left. It took about 2-1/2 hours to prep me and do

the test.

>

> laurie

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Hi Bug, where are you located, I saw that you were diagnosed at the U of M in another posting. I was diagnosed there also. Ruth

-----Original Message-----From: venomvw Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: EMG questionI could have sworn I read 6 months on the time between EMG and biopsy in the same area. Don't quote me on it though ! I like Laurie have had the full combination of poking and prodding in just about every limb area. I know for my first needle biopsy they didn't have a problem doing it two weeks after my knee surgery in the thigh on the same side. I figured why be gimpy on both sides eh ? Ultimately, the fresh open muscle biopsy was the only way to dx the mito.bugMedical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack.

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