Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Wow, , you have a lot to ask and I am so glad that you have found us. First of all, I think you should check out the website for the Magic Foundation. The address is www.magicfoundation.org. It is an organization of many different growth disorders and there is a separate section for RSS. I think that many of your questions will be answered there. Also, please feel free to email me directly at z4all@... (I'm the Email Coordinator for Magic and I have an almost 13 year old son with RSS - and an almost 16 year old daughter without RSS.) You can also email Salem who is the RSS Division Coordinator. Her email is magicrss@... . I will tell you more about Magic in a private email so that this message does not look like an advertisement for Magic, which it is not. I hear that you are very concerned about your son. Many of us have been in your shoes and understand completely. We even have a few parents of twins, where one has RSS and the other doesn't, and there is a mom of triplets, too! Your best bet for now, however, is really to read the many responses you will probably get and to check out the Magic website. It is scary to know that there may be something " wrong " with your child, but when you read more about it, you will see that it is not so bad. Yes, the day to day dealings can be worrisome and there are definitely things to consider, but Colin will be a healthy, happy, productive grown-up - which is an important thing to keep in mind. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions that come to your mind. We are a lively group and try hard to help each other out. It would help a lot, however, if you could tell me where you live. There may be people that live in your area and even doctors that we all might recommend. For example, in NYC, there is Dr. Madeleine Harbison who has over 100 RSS patients in her practice. She is our resident medical advisor, mentor and many other things. Enough talk for now. You need to digest all of this and then come up with more questions. Hang in there. It will all be okay. I promise. Jodi New here with intro and questions (long) > Hi, > My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin > was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . > He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and > as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to > eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while > sleeping. > > He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many > doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the > geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he > was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for > height and 55% for weight. > > Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they > believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done > some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the > large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset > ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, > among others. > > This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families > are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So > from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with > this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early > on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? > When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? > Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of > medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for > this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for > him? How common is this disorder? > > It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is > growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be > hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. > > How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of > shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a > kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it > really sounds like this is it. > > Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if > you think he has it? > > Thanks for listening.... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Hi Jodi, I'm in Portland, OR, a long way from NY! We are currently working with Emanuel Children's Hospital. Thanks for your note - > Wow, , you have a lot to ask and I am so glad that you have found us. > First of all, I think you should check out the website for the Magic > Foundation. The address is www.magicfoundation.org. It is an organization > of many different growth disorders and there is a separate section for RSS. > I think that many of your questions will be answered there. Also, please > feel free to email me directly at z4all@g... (I'm the Email > Coordinator for Magic and I have an almost 13 year old son with RSS - and an > almost 16 year old daughter without RSS.) You can also email Salem > who is the RSS Division Coordinator. Her email is magicrss@m... . > I will tell you more about Magic in a private email so that this message > does not look like an advertisement for Magic, which it is not. > > I hear that you are very concerned about your son. Many of us have been in > your shoes and understand completely. We even have a few parents of twins, > where one has RSS and the other doesn't, and there is a mom of triplets, > too! > > Your best bet for now, however, is really to read the many responses you > will probably get and to check out the Magic website. It is scary to know > that there may be something " wrong " with your child, but when you read more > about it, you will see that it is not so bad. Yes, the day to day dealings > can be worrisome and there are definitely things to consider, but Colin will > be a healthy, happy, productive grown-up - which is an important thing to > keep in mind. > > In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions that come to your > mind. We are a lively group and try hard to help each other out. It would > help a lot, however, if you could tell me where you live. There may be > people that live in your area and even doctors that we all might recommend. > For example, in NYC, there is Dr. Madeleine Harbison who has over 100 RSS > patients in her practice. She is our resident medical advisor, mentor and > many other things. > > Enough talk for now. You need to digest all of this and then come up with > more questions. Hang in there. It will all be okay. I promise. > > Jodi > > New here with intro and questions (long) > > > > Hi, > > My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin > > was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . > > He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and > > as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to > > eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while > > sleeping. > > > > He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many > > doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the > > geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he > > was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for > > height and 55% for weight. > > > > Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they > > believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done > > some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the > > large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset > > ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, > > among others. > > > > This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families > > are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So > > from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with > > this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early > > on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? > > When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? > > Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of > > medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for > > this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for > > him? How common is this disorder? > > > > It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is > > growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be > > hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. > > > > How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of > > shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a > > kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it > > really sounds like this is it. > > > > Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if > > you think he has it? > > > > Thanks for listening.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Dear , Welcome to our group. My little boy is 19 mths old - we only found out about RSS a few months ago and like many other people in this group we still don't have a firm diagnosis....but that doesn't matter becuase so many of the children share the same symptomes/issues anyway. We have received so much help, advice comfort and support from the people here - and I'm sure you will too. Like you we were very concerened when we first learned about RSS - but we have learned much more about it now and feel much more relaxed about Finlays future. I second Jodi's advice about tapping into Magic - we joined recently and have made use of many of the resources. They have growth charts for the projected height potential of children with RSS without growth hormone treatment as well as a library of articles written about research into RSS. we also purchased the videos of lectures from the last convention. the lectures were by 2 experts in the field of RSS/SGA dr Madeleine Harbison and Dr Harmut Wollman (actually I'm sure I have got his name wrong - someone will hopefully correct me??) he is from Germany THe other advice I would echo is to look through the many posts to this site - I learned so much from doing that and was so reassured to find so many parents facing exactly the same issues nad emotions as we were. And keep asking us all questions!!! When I first joined I had zillions of questions which I asked and asked and asked!!! I felt very supported here. You can post a photo of Colin into the files section of this list - or what some others have done is put together a web site at www.growthspurts.com with photos and growth data - here is the link to Finlays if you want to have a look.... http://www.growthspurts.com/view.asp?s=45416/ Good luck with your research, you've come to the right place! (mum to Finlay 19 mths 16lbs 15 oz, 28 inches, Wellington, New Zealand) > Hi, > My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin > was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . > He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and > as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to > eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while > sleeping. > > He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many > doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the > geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he > was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for > height and 55% for weight. > > Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they > believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done > some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the > large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset > ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, > among others. > > This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families > are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So > from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with > this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early > on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? > When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? > Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of > medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for > this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for > him? How common is this disorder? > > It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is > growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be > hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. > > How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of > shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a > kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it > really sounds like this is it. > > Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if > you think he has it? > > Thanks for listening.... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Hi , My name is Cheryl and I have 3 year old triplets, , , and . is my RSS son. I'm sure others will post as to what kinds of medical interventions you might be in for, but let me start by saying you're not alone in this process. It is very difficult in the beginning to learn your child " has something wrong with him/her " . I was in shock as well when we first learned of s diagnosis. It does get a easier over time when you've had a chance to digest things, learn more about RSS, and then figure out what road you shall travel on. The main concern with RSS is short-stature but for some kids, including my , it can potentially go past just that. We learned that had RSS at 18 months, severe congenital scolisios at 20 months as well as having a single kidney, then to top things off at 23 months learned he's profoundly deaf. Deafness is not a characteristic of RSS, but scoliosis is a potential as well as having a single kidney. He also had 1 undescended teste / hernia that needed to be corrected. To give you background on my triplets, they were born at 34 wks., was 1.13 lbs., 14-1/2 " , was 4.5 lbs., 17-1/2 " , and was 5.1 lbs., 19-1/2 " . The main reason for my delivery (I had a c-section) was wasn't growing and we didn't know why. We thought he was small cause he wasn't properly nutritioned in the womb, but boy were we wrong. As my kids have gotten older the span in size between and /Jen has significantly grown. is off the chart, Jen's in the 90th percentile, and 's not even on the chart. So we say, what chart? It means nothing in my house. We call being on the chart. He's in the percentile. It's hard watching my kids being the exact same age with such a size difference. You will probably get comments over time of people thinking there's a year or two between them and noone will believe you when you say they're twins. I argue with people all the time cause they don't believe I've got triplets. They think my kids are either a year apart from one another or I have twins and one other. But, that's all another story I'll save for when you're kids are older. Comments - LOL! Overall, my is doing great. He's growing at his own pace (with the help of a feeding tube and oral eating), his deafness has somewhat been corrected with the aid of a Cochlear Implant which allows deaf kids to hear, and right now we're waiting to see what we're going to do with the scoliosis. He will eventually need back surgery, but time will tell. His single kidney is functioning fine - we just monitor it 1X/year. And, I guess that's about it. He's a wonderful little boy that I'm glad to have part of our family. Take one day at a time and check out www.magicfoundation.org when you get a chance. That will give you more info on RSS. Good luck and feel free to write if you should have any questions for me. Cheryl Mom to , , and - all 3 jebarker@... wrote: > Hi, > My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin > was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . > He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and > as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to > eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while > sleeping. > > He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many > doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the > geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he > was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for > height and 55% for weight. > > Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they > believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done > some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the > large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset > ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, > among others. > > This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families > are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So > from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with > this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early > on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? > When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? > Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of > medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for > this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for > him? How common is this disorder? > > It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is > growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be > hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. > > How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of > shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a > kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it > really sounds like this is it. > > Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if > you think he has it? > > Thanks for listening.... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Hi , I also have boy/girl twins with my son having RSS. It can be difficult, but you do learn to deal with it. Currently, is a little over 12 lbs at 16 month and is over 22 lbs. We have been very lucky, there are no problems with other than RSS. He was born by c-section at 33 weeks because he stopped growing in the womb. They thought that was stealing his food, but that wasn't true. He was born at 2 lb 1 oz and 14 inches. Becca was 5 lb 3 oz and 17 1/2 inches. has been receiving physical therapy (to help with low muscle tone and other issues directly related to his lack of size)since he was 4 months old. Starting July 1, he will also be receiving occupational therapy. Dr. H (who you have already heard about) told us that we have nothing to worry about with other than making sure he gets enough calories. Right now, is a head taller than , and the difference is increasing. Eventually, will go on growth hormones. I am short myself (just under 5') and my husband is 5'9 " . My family tends to be small, but both of my husband's brothers are over 6'. Hopefully will wind up in the 5'2 " - 5'4 " range but with my lack of size, I am not counting on it. These kids are really amazing and learn how to compensate for the size. has learned to hold and balance large toys in his feet so he can play with them with his hands. He can't crawl (still too top-heavy) but he rolls everywhere. Anyway, you have found a fantastic group of people. We are all here to support each other (whether for RSS issues or not). Glad to meet you, Judith, Steve, (RSS) and (non-RSS) 16 mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Hi , I also have boy/girl twins with my son having RSS. It can be difficult, but you do learn to deal with it. Currently, is a little over 12 lbs at 16 month and is over 22 lbs. We have been very lucky, there are no problems with other than RSS. He was born by c-section at 33 weeks because he stopped growing in the womb. They thought that was stealing his food, but that wasn't true. He was born at 2 lb 1 oz and 14 inches. Becca was 5 lb 3 oz and 17 1/2 inches. has been receiving physical therapy (to help with low muscle tone and other issues directly related to his lack of size)since he was 4 months old. Starting July 1, he will also be receiving occupational therapy. Dr. H (who you have already heard about) told us that we have nothing to worry about with other than making sure he gets enough calories. Right now, is a head taller than , and the difference is increasing. Eventually, will go on growth hormones. I am short myself (just under 5') and my husband is 5'9 " . My family tends to be small, but both of my husband's brothers are over 6'. Hopefully will wind up in the 5'2 " - 5'4 " range but with my lack of size, I am not counting on it. These kids are really amazing and learn how to compensate for the size. has learned to hold and balance large toys in his feet so he can play with them with his hands. He can't crawl (still too top-heavy) but he rolls everywhere. Anyway, you have found a fantastic group of people. We are all here to support each other (whether for RSS issues or not). Glad to meet you, Judith, Steve, (RSS) and (non-RSS) 16 mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 , Welcome to ous list. I do hope you feel supported and informed as you converse with us, and learn about RSS. I have a 9 yr. old daughter, , with RSS, and she's doing great---just fininshed 3rd grade, and she has been on gh shots for 3 yrs and has responded well. Academically and socially, and physically she's doing great. It may seem like a long dark road ahead of you right now, but we are hear to listen and light the way for you. Everyone is at different stages, depending on when they receive the diagnoses and how old their child is. It is great you are finding ou this diagnoses early. Some on the list wait years before hearing the RSS term. Also, note that there are " mild RSS " cases, which is probably what you could call our case. Well, I'm real short on time today, but please ask questions, and try to be at the convention...you will feel so informed and ready to address the needs of your child so much better...but if you can't, videos of prior yrs. are available through Magic. Cheryl V. mom to , age 9, RSS mom to , age 6 New here with intro and questions (long) >Hi, >My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin >was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . >He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and >as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to >eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while >sleeping. > >He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many >doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the >geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he >was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for >height and 55% for weight. > >Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they >believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done >some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the >large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset >ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, >among others. > >This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families >are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So >from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with >this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early >on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? >When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? >Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of >medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for >this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for >him? How common is this disorder? > >It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is >growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be >hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. > >How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of >shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a >kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it >really sounds like this is it. > >Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if >you think he has it? > >Thanks for listening.... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Hi , As you can see, you are not alone. Any feelings you are having are completely normal. I started out feeling confused, then angry, then sad and then pity. I went through every emotion almost every day. I felt that way until I found this group. I have to say that I have learned so much from this group, which in turn has helped me become a better advocate for my son. I realized that I needed to use my energy on figuring out what was best for my son. Josh was born at 38 weeks, 4'15oz., 17 " . He is now 27 mo. and has not yet been diagnosed with RSS. We saw a geneticist when Josh was 1yr. They suspected RSS, but wanted to wait a year to see how he grew. Well, needless to say, he didn't. We met with them again at age 2. They still didn't confirm a RSS diagnosis, but in my heart of hearts I know. Anyway, we are meeting with an endo next month to discuss growth hormone. Josh has been going to occupational therapy since before he turned 1 and speech therapy for 7 months now. I know there are obstacles ahead that we'll have to deal with, but I wouldn't change it for anything. Josh is a bright, happy and adorable child that makes it all worth while. I agree with Jodi, that everything will okay. Just hang in there, and learn as much as you can about RSS, you'll find that it isn't all that bad. Rita (Josh 27 mos) New here with intro and questions (long) Hi, My name is and I have 6 mo. old boy/girl twins. My son Colin was IUGR and at 37 weeks was born at 4.3, 17 " . His twin was 6.8, 19 " . He has struggled with reflux and projectile vomiting since birth and as a result developed an oral aversion to the bottle and refuses to eat while awake. He takes about 20 oz. a day on average all while sleeping. He is now about 13.5 at 6.5 mo. and almost 24 " . We have been to many doctors trying to figure out why he refuses to eat, and recently the geneticist to determine why he is so small. We had just assumed he was small because he didn't eat. His twin is now in the 90% for height and 55% for weight. Yesterday Colin's physical therapist by mistake mentioned that they believe he has RSS. She assumed the doctors had told us. I have done some reading and he does appear to have all the symptoms. He has the large forehead, small pointy chin, small downturned mouth, lowset ears, low tone, sweaty head, hyperactive, and the fifth finger thing, among others. This has all come as quite a shock to my husband and I. Our families are both tall. My husband is 6.1 and I'm 5.7. My father is 6.6! So from what I've read online short stature is the primary concern with this disorder. Can they determine how tall they will be this early on? What is average for a male? Are the growth hormones effective? When do they start treatment? What else can be done for these kids? Realistically how is this going to impact his life? What kinds of medical intervention will he need? I just want to prepare myself for this and know what to expect? Will eating always be a struggle for him? How common is this disorder? It is so especially hard because he is a twin and his sister is growing so well. I have a feeling she will be tall and that will be hard on him growing up always in comparison to his sister. How do all of you deal with this? I am still in such a state of shock. We are waiting on a bone age study, a chromosome study, and a kidney ultrasound before the final diagnosis is determined, but it really sounds like this is it. Is there a way to post a picture so you could look at him and see if you think he has it? Thanks for listening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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