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<<So first thing you need ot do is find ou t if you are absorbing the HC

properly. Do this with HC 1% cream available in any pharmacy. Try replacing

the last dose of the day with 1/8tsp cream.>>

I'm desperate for sleep, I'm using up to 2 mg klopin, any of the Ambiens

do nothing, including up to 20 mg... I've tried melatonin. Just started

taking my temp and can't even get it up to 98. (am using the fake mercury

thermometer from walgreens, will buy a digital.)

I'm still waiting on test materials to I can get my saliva's done. If I

start using any hydrocortisone cream now, I will throw off results of

saliva testing I'm sure, so I don't want to do that.

How does someone know that the HC is absorbed properly??

Should I be off all sleeep aids in prep for the saliva. I truly will not

sleep at all and need to do some driving between Phoenix and Tucson.

I'm printing off lots of post to show to my doc, a shrink actually who DOES

believe in shot adrenals and low tyroid. I'm learning as much as possible,

boy I hope that test kid gets here soon.

Do you suggest I go ahead and get Isocort ordered now so I don't have the

additional wait once we get the results.

If you knew the life I have lived the past few years you would know there is

no question my adrenals are shot. You all are telling my story again and

again. and the brieif part is 6 deaths in 18 months and a restrainingn

order against my brother.... rapid weight loss that is coming back on.

I'm a mess.............

I NEED SLEEP DESPERATELY.....

But, I'll keep going as I am cause I don't want to waste the money I'm

spending for the Canary Club testing.

Kathy in AZ

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> >>12.5 7.00 am

> 10 10.30 am

> 10 2.00 pm

> 10 6.00 pm<<

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> Unless you have absorption problems your adrneals CANNOT produce

ANY of theoir own cortisol on this dose. CANNOT as there will be 0

ACTH. So first thing you need ot do is find ou t if you are absorbing

the HC properly. Do this with HC 1% cream available in any pharmacy.

Try replacing the last dose of the day with 1/8tsp cream. You do not

take any at bedtime? I bet you are not sleeping at all! You could

also try breaking these doses up. SMALLER more often will sometimes

work better. You could try dosing like this first:

> 10mg 7AM

> 2.5mg 9AM

> 7.5mg 11AM

> 2.5mg 1PM IF YOU NEED IT

> 5mg 3PM

> 2.5mg 5PM

> 2.5mg 7PM IF YOU NEED IT

> 5mg bedtime

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Hi Val,I possibly do have absorption problems as I have been battling

with candida.If I dose like that I am dropping 5mg straight away-is

that ok?.I didn't really feel any major benefit from the hc until I

got on 42.5 and my blood pressure has been higher apart from

following this stress although still low which is why we considered

florinef.I'm worried about my ability to handle things reducing

dramatically if I drop that much-won't it reduce the benefits I have

gained?

I have tried the bedtime dose before and seems to keep me awake.

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> > >>12.5 7.00 am

> > 10 10.30 am

> > 10 2.00 pm

> > 10 6.00 pm<<

> >

> > Unless you have absorption problems your adrneals CANNOT produce

> ANY of theoir own cortisol on this dose. CANNOT as there will be 0

> ACTH. So first thing you need ot do is find ou t if you are

absorbing

> the HC properly. Do this with HC 1% cream available in any

pharmacy.

> Try replacing the last dose of the day with 1/8tsp cream. You do

not

> take any at bedtime? I bet you are not sleeping at all! You could

> also try breaking these doses up. SMALLER more often will sometimes

> work better. You could try dosing like this first:

> > 10mg 7AM

> > 2.5mg 9AM

> > 7.5mg 11AM

> > 2.5mg 1PM IF YOU NEED IT

> > 5mg 3PM

> > 2.5mg 5PM

> > 2.5mg 7PM IF YOU NEED IT

> > 5mg bedtime

> >

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> >

> Hi Val,I possibly do have absorption problems as I have been

battling

> with candida.If I dose like that I am dropping 5mg straight away-is

> that ok?.I didn't really feel any major benefit from the hc until I

> got on 42.5 and my blood pressure has been higher apart from

> following this stress although still low which is why we considered

> florinef.I'm worried about my ability to handle things reducing

> dramatically if I drop that much-won't it reduce the benefits I

have

> gained?

>

> I have tried the bedtime dose before and seems to keep me awake.

>

Forgot to add that I have been managing to sleep but it is disturbed.

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>><<So first thing you need ot do is find ou t if you are absorbing the HC

properly. Do this with HC 1% cream available in any pharmacy. Try replacing

the last dose of the day with 1/8tsp cream.>>

I'm desperate for sleep, I'm using up to 2 mg klopin, any of the Ambiens

do nothing, including up to 20 mg... I've tried melatonin. Just started

taking my temp and can't even get it up to 98. (am using the fake mercury

thermometer from walgreens, will buy a digital.)<<

That post was for someone ALREADY on 40+ MG HC. That indicates an absorption

problem. You have to read my replies in CONTEXT to who I am replying to. MOST

the time there is not a problem absorbing HC with pills. The liquid metal

thermometer you have may be more accurate than a digital. CALL Canary Club or

Diagnos Techs about your sleep aids.

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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> Spreading the doses out hels keep the levels better in your body

and you

> may actually need less. How much HC were you on when oyu tried the

> bedtime dose?>

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> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

I've been trying the bedtime dose on and off since I went onto around

37.5 hc onwards and it's been hit and miss as to whether it worked.I

found I was often waking at 2.00 for a few hours but this could be

the high dose of hc-I really don't know anymore.I tried medrol at

bedtime for a while but didn't like being on this at all.So you think

I may be ok to reduce my dose if I spread out the dosing and maybe

try the bedtime dose again? I do want to go onto florinef too as my

blood pressure is still poor but should I hold off on this for the

minute? I know you say only change one thing at once.Thanks

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<>>I've been trying the bedtime dose on and off since I went onto around

37.5 hc onwards and it's been hit and miss as to whether it worked.I

found I was often waking at 2.00 for a few hours but this could be

the high dose of hc-I really don't know anymore.I tried medrol at

bedtime for a while but didn't like being on this at all.So you think

I may be ok to reduce my dose if I spread out the dosing and maybe

try the bedtime dose again? I do want to go onto florinef too as my

blood pressure is still poor but should I hold off on this for the

minute? I know you say only change one thing at once.Thanks<<

Yes only change one thing at a time.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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> <>>I've been trying the bedtime dose on and off since I went onto

around

> 37.5 hc onwards and it's been hit and miss as to whether it

worked.I

> found I was often waking at 2.00 for a few hours but this could be

> the high dose of hc-I really don't know anymore.I tried medrol at

> bedtime for a while but didn't like being on this at all.So you

think

> I may be ok to reduce my dose if I spread out the dosing and maybe

> try the bedtime dose again? I do want to go onto florinef too as my

> blood pressure is still poor but should I hold off on this for the

> minute? I know you say only change one thing at once.Thanks<<

>

> Yes only change one thing at a time.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

Thank you-I will try the new dosing schedule tomorrow and see how it

goes.

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