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I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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What did your last labs show for levels? Is the doc the type of person that you can sit down with and explain that you want to push a bit harder to relieve symptoms?

Some docs will handle nudging numbers if you show them that you are responsible and will contact them at the first sign of anything being 'off'.....

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:24:48 -0500 "My Group" writes:

I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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switch doctors : ). make sure the new doc will prescribe t3 & t4 medicine (armour, cytomel, etc.) and make sure they will check by symptoms as well as lab work.

good luck,

andrea

also... does your toe only go numb when you are sitting down? standing? both? do your fingers go numb or turn blue as well? medications can cause this. also, if you have underwear or pants that are too tight when you sit (underwear red mark on skin is tale tell sign) it will cut off the blood flow to your main artery in your leg just enough to cause that to happen.

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I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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he has been made well aware, however made several errors in letters, errors that a kindergardener would make.. i know i need a new doctor.. this one is foreign, and yes, i have to knock that hard not because of his nationality but because he didn't go to school here.. would've taken months to get in to see a regular endo..

Re: Left pnky toe numb

What did your last labs show for levels? Is the doc the type of person that you can sit down with and explain that you want to push a bit harder to relieve symptoms?

Some docs will handle nudging numbers if you show them that you are responsible and will contact them at the first sign of anything being 'off'.....

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:24:48 -0500 "My Group" writes:

I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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During my second back injury, I would get prickling, tingling, cold and

then numbness in some of my toes. This radiated down from my pinched

sciatic nerve in my back. I also had extreme pain in the fronts of my

thighs, down the back of my legs, etc. is right that your little

toe problem could be a pinch somewhere. To be honest though, you may be

able to stretch yourself out of it, before your next appointment every

comes up. Or, alternatively, a decent Osteopathic physician who handles

family care can help you figure this out too. It is easy stuff for them.

The book I recommended last week to for healing back pain naturally

might also benefit you. If you would like, I can describe a few beginner

simple stretches that may help you start softening up the pain and

tightness.

As a quick note, even if you are unable to get up out of bed from back

pain (as I was at one point) you can start by doing " butt crunches "

gently. Those big ole muscles in your rump can help you loosen your back

tightness, which in turns loosens other things as well. You can do this

sitting, laying down, standing, driving ... where-ever. You gently and

slowly squeeze those butt muscles, hold it for a few seconds, then very

slowly and very gently release that squeeze. Repeat a few times - always

gently. Always slowly. You can do this every hour or as often as you

need to. It is a safe exercise.

Best,

-Lynn

My Group wrote:

> well, your probably absolutely pinpointing this, thanks for the

> response, i will look into this b/c i do have deg disc disease and have

> horrible back problems and used to see a chiro years ago.. in fact my

> arm went numb and stuff a few years back and it was nerve related from

> my neck,again, ddd.

>

> its only on the left side moreso than the right. but i get numbness and

> it has been all over before most of it was under control but the left

> toe thing has happeneed before..

>

> Yes i have had several bad care accidents i shouldn't have survived, but

> i think you nailed it.

>

> thanks lisa.. i will do that, i have to call the ins co to see if they

> pay for that, it may be they only pay for PT..

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If all else fails.. there is self treating... It's not something for just anyone to do... but sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get things done, to keep things going until you can get a doc that understands that if this is taken care of properly you aren't 'sick' anymore.....

Give me a holler off list and we'll banter some ideas back and forth for options, if you want....

Some docs are better with giving you what you need when you can come in and say that this is what I'm on and I'm doing this much better than when I was on the lesser dose, let's see if we can get even more improvement... Then show that you've been self monitoring and watching closely - demonstrating responsibility in your own well being and health.

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On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:23:25 -0500 "My Group" writes:

he has been made well aware, however made several errors in letters, errors that a kindergardener would make.. i know i need a new doctor.. this one is foreign, and yes, i have to knock that hard not because of his nationality but because he didn't go to school here.. would've taken months to get in to see a regular endo..

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Do you know what is interesting? There are no foreign D.O.s allowed to practice in the US the A.O.A. (american osteopathic association) considers that unless they are trained in the U.S. at the handful of schools that offer the program, they won't be allowed to sit for their boards. Not one doctor trained in another country has passed the boards here. Doesn't it make you wish all medical fields were so strict? Maybe it would help prevent the problems that many of us have.

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What did your last labs show for levels? Is the doc the type of person that you can sit down with and explain that you want to push a bit harder to relieve symptoms?

Some docs will handle nudging numbers if you show them that you are responsible and will contact them at the first sign of anything being 'off'.....

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:24:48 -0500 "My Group" writes:

I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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Do you know what is interesting? There are no foreign D.O.s allowed to practice in the US the A.O.A. (american osteopathic association) considers that unless they are trained in the U.S. at the handful of schools that offer the program, they won't be allowed to sit for their boards. Not one doctor trained in another country has passed the boards here. Doesn't it make you wish all medical fields were so strict? Maybe it would help prevent the problems that many of us have.

Re: Left pnky toe numb

What did your last labs show for levels? Is the doc the type of person that you can sit down with and explain that you want to push a bit harder to relieve symptoms?

Some docs will handle nudging numbers if you show them that you are responsible and will contact them at the first sign of anything being 'off'.....

Topper ()

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:24:48 -0500 "My Group" writes:

I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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Do you know what is interesting? There are no foreign D.O.s allowed to practice in the US the A.O.A. (american osteopathic association) considers that unless they are trained in the U.S. at the handful of schools that offer the program, they won't be allowed to sit for their boards. Not one doctor trained in another country has passed the boards here. Doesn't it make you wish all medical fields were so strict? Maybe it would help prevent the problems that many of us have.

Re: Left pnky toe numb

What did your last labs show for levels? Is the doc the type of person that you can sit down with and explain that you want to push a bit harder to relieve symptoms?

Some docs will handle nudging numbers if you show them that you are responsible and will contact them at the first sign of anything being 'off'.....

Topper ()

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:24:48 -0500 "My Group" writes:

I'm getting so tired of this, my symptoms are returning and my feet went from getting ice cold now to one pinky toe numb. I know this is thyroid related, but it doesn't seem like my doctor is fixing my problem.

He says the levels are normal, and doens't know what is causing these symptoms.

its like parasthesia, i know their thyroid symptoms but what can i do?

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Oh wow!!! I do the butt squeeze thing as part of my stretching thing before bed and before Bedxercises. I always felt more relaxed and at ease after it... never really thought much about why that did that to me, just made it part of my routine.... now I've learned why.. that it involves loosening the back.... Cool!

Speaking of Bedxercise... I mention that on the ThyroPhoenix site and darned if it that didn't get picked up in a porn link.... the guys that are searching for porn type exercises are now getting pointed toward a website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that has to be a disappointment.... I thought about making a stink about it and getting the link removed from the site... but those guys might know someone that might benefit from thyroid info so I just let it ride....

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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:18:43 -0500 Lynn writes:

During my second back injury, I would get prickling, tingling, cold and then numbness in some of my toes. This radiated down from my pinched sciatic nerve in my back. I also had extreme pain in the fronts of my thighs, down the back of my legs, etc. is right that your little toe problem could be a pinch somewhere. To be honest though, you may be able to stretch yourself out of it, before your next appointment every comes up. Or, alternatively, a decent Osteopathic physician who handles family care can help you figure this out too. It is easy stuff for them. The book I recommended last week to for healing back pain naturally might also benefit you. If you would like, I can describe a few beginner simple stretches that may help you start softening up the pain and tightness.As a quick note, even if you are unable to get up out of bed from back pain (as I was at one point) you can start by doing "butt crunches" gently. Those big ole muscles in your rump can help you loosen your back tightness, which in turns loosens other things as well. You can do this sitting, laying down, standing, driving ... where-ever. You gently and slowly squeeze those butt muscles, hold it for a few seconds, then very slowly and very gently release that squeeze. Repeat a few times - always gently. Always slowly. You can do this every hour or as often as you need to. It is a safe exercise.Best,-Lynn

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I did not know that. Thank you for teaching me something new!

-Lynn

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> Do you know what is interesting? There are no foreign D.O.s allowed to

> practice in the US the A.O.A. (american osteopathic association)

> considers that unless they are trained in the U.S. at the handful of

> schools that offer the program, they won't be allowed to sit for their

> boards. Not one doctor trained in another country has passed the boards

> here. Doesn't it make you wish all medical fields were so strict?

> Maybe it would help prevent the problems that many of us have.

>

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You've got a point there, Topper. I was just thinking back to a weird

cyst I got in a very embarrassing place after being stuck sitting on a

train for 16 hours. It got so bad that it took over most of my

.....errr.. backside. The doctor was pretty sure they'd need to schedule

me with a surgeon ... but he agreed that if I would actually take the

antibiotics he prescribed AND sit in a very warm bath twice a day for 20

minutes at least each, then we'd see if I could kick the problem without

surgery. He required me to come in every week, then every 10 days. It

took 30 days, but it completely righted itself because I was a fanatic

about taking my sitz baths. He showed respect for me, I showed him

progress and could tell him exactly what and how I was doing. I even was

able to get the meds refilled over the phone without another appointment

because he knew I was keeping good track of what was happening. He's the

doc I have hopes for taking my thyroid tests to when I get them back ...

fingers crossed he'll remember our former partnership a few years ago on

that cyst and will trust my intuition. But my point it, you're right, if

you show some docs that you are responsible and bright, they listen and

try harder.

Best,

-Lynn

topper2@... wrote:

>

> Some docs are better with giving you what you need when you can come in

> and say that this is what I'm on and I'm doing this much better than

> when I was on the lesser dose, let's see if we can get even more

> improvement... Then show that you've been self monitoring and watching

> closely - demonstrating responsibility in your own well being and health.

>

> Topper ()

> topper2@...

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You've got a point there, Topper. I was just thinking back to a weird

cyst I got in a very embarrassing place after being stuck sitting on a

train for 16 hours. It got so bad that it took over most of my

.....errr.. backside. The doctor was pretty sure they'd need to schedule

me with a surgeon ... but he agreed that if I would actually take the

antibiotics he prescribed AND sit in a very warm bath twice a day for 20

minutes at least each, then we'd see if I could kick the problem without

surgery. He required me to come in every week, then every 10 days. It

took 30 days, but it completely righted itself because I was a fanatic

about taking my sitz baths. He showed respect for me, I showed him

progress and could tell him exactly what and how I was doing. I even was

able to get the meds refilled over the phone without another appointment

because he knew I was keeping good track of what was happening. He's the

doc I have hopes for taking my thyroid tests to when I get them back ...

fingers crossed he'll remember our former partnership a few years ago on

that cyst and will trust my intuition. But my point it, you're right, if

you show some docs that you are responsible and bright, they listen and

try harder.

Best,

-Lynn

topper2@... wrote:

>

> Some docs are better with giving you what you need when you can come in

> and say that this is what I'm on and I'm doing this much better than

> when I was on the lesser dose, let's see if we can get even more

> improvement... Then show that you've been self monitoring and watching

> closely - demonstrating responsibility in your own well being and health.

>

> Topper ()

> topper2@...

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the guys that are searching for porn type exercises are now getting pointed toward a website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that has to be a disappointment

I LOVE it!!!LOLOL!!!!!

So funny in so many ways...

sue

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the guys that are searching for porn type exercises are now getting pointed toward a website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that has to be a disappointment

I LOVE it!!!LOLOL!!!!!

So funny in so many ways...

sue

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Wish I could figure out what made the site add the link to Phoenix... what was their thought process??

but still funny.... yes.

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the guys that are searching for porn type exercises are now getting pointed toward a website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that has to be a disappointmentI LOVE it!!!LOLOL!!!!!So funny in so many ways...sue

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Duh.. that's true... hehehehe

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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:40:29 -0500 Lynn writes:

Errr... thought process ? LOL. They don't use a thought process that involves the brain when they're surfing for porn. ;):D

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You're welcome :) I hope you love it as much as I do. A lot of levels of

information. All fascinating.

Best,

-Lynn

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> I got that book, and 2 others, today. I had to order them from Amazon,

> since my local bookstores didn't have them in stock. I haven't read a

> lot of it since I just got it today, but I can already tell you I'm

> going to love it! Thanks so much for the suggestion!

>

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Wow, this IS very useful information. I am dealing

with some back *issues* at the moment myself and there

isn't alot I can do as far as stratching my back or

even lying flat without getting major pain...but I

think I can pull this off! I'm going to try it for

sure...

Thanks for posting it

And heck...it can't hurt to tighten up the ol booty a

little bit either ;)

Ayla

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Oh wow!!! I do the butt squeeze thing as part of my

> stretching thing

> before bed and before Bedxercises. I always felt

> more relaxed and at ease

> after it... never really thought much about why that

> did that to me, just

> made it part of my routine.... now I've learned

> why.. that it involves

> loosening the back.... Cool!

>

> Speaking of Bedxercise... I mention that on the

> ThyroPhoenix site and

> darned if it that didn't get picked up in a porn

> link.... the guys that

> are searching for porn type exercises are now

> getting pointed toward a

> website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that

> has to be a

> disappointment.... I thought about making a stink

> about it and getting

> the link removed from the site... but those guys

> might know someone that

> might benefit from thyroid info so I just let it

> ride....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:18:43 -0500 Lynn

> writes:

> During my second back injury, I would get prickling,

> tingling, cold and

> then numbness in some of my toes. This radiated down

> from my pinched

> sciatic nerve in my back. I also had extreme pain in

> the fronts of my

> thighs, down the back of my legs, etc. is right

> that your little

> toe problem could be a pinch somewhere. To be honest

> though, you may be

> able to stretch yourself out of it, before your next

> appointment every

> comes up. Or, alternatively, a decent Osteopathic

> physician who handles

> family care can help you figure this out too. It is

> easy stuff for them.

> The book I recommended last week to for healing

> back pain naturally

> might also benefit you. If you would like, I can

> describe a few beginner

> simple stretches that may help you start softening

> up the pain and

> tightness.

>

> As a quick note, even if you are unable to get up

> out of bed from back

> pain (as I was at one point) you can start by doing

> " butt crunches "

> gently. Those big ole muscles in your rump can help

> you loosen your back

> tightness, which in turns loosens other things as

> well. You can do this

> sitting, laying down, standing, driving ...

> where-ever. You gently and

> slowly squeeze those butt muscles, hold it for a few

> seconds, then very

> slowly and very gently release that squeeze. Repeat

> a few times - always

> gently. Always slowly. You can do this every hour or

> as often as you

> need to. It is a safe exercise.

>

> Best,

> -Lynn

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My PT is having me do all sorts of weird but interesting muscle strengthening exercises to help my lower back and hip muscles, and they are tightening up my buns nicely LOL! Here are a few:

Pelvic Tilts

Lay flat on your back, with your knees bent and your feet flat on the floor, legs a comfortable distance apart (whatever works for you, just not more than hip width apart). Tilt your pelvic bones in toward your chest, not raising your back off the floor, and squeeze your buns and your belly muscles. Hold for 10 seconds and do 10 of them.

Bridging

Lay flat on your back in the same position as above, but this time push off from the floor with your heels and upper back, and make a bridge with your pelvis up off the floor. Squeeze into it with your buns, thighs, and hold up to 10 seconds or as long as you can, then back down to the starting position. Repeat 10x again, or as many as you can, they can be difficult for some people at first, esp if you have lower back pain, so if it hurts, don't do it til the muscles get strong enough with the other excercises.

Kegels, or something similar

Laying on your back in the same position again, put a thick pillow or soft cusiony ball between your knees (just anything to give you something to squeeze). Squeeze in on the cushion 5 seconds at a time, doing it 20 times. You can really feel this in those lower back muscles.

Reverse Kegels

In the same postion again, attach a belt or yoga strap around your legs just above your knees, with your legs as close together as comfortable but leave a little bit of space to work with. This time, push out in the opposite direction from the sqeezing in you did previously, to work the opposing muscles from that exercise. 5 seconds each, 20 times.

Once I got stronger, I also do small crunches. I do a set of 10 of them holding at the upper position 4 seconds, in 3 positions: straight, left shoulder going toward right knee, and right shoulder going toward left knee. The sideways ones help work the muscles on the sides of your belly, and the straight ones help work the center muscles. My belly is starting to tone some, but these are difficult, I had to wait until my neck and back were strong enough to handle them, and went very slowly at first. My husband says they do them differently, easier, but my PT says the ones they do don't give me correct form for the muscles I need to work. Bascially, you lay on your back with your legs bent and your feet up on the wall at a 90 degree angle, and you do the crunches that way, and it helps take some strain off your neck that way, but for mine, the neck muscles need the work.

Anyway, that's some excercise tips for the day, and you could feasible do them all in bed. :)

Wow, this IS very useful information. I am dealingwith some back *issues* at the moment myself and thereisn't alot I can do as far as stratching my back oreven lying flat without getting major pain...but I

think I can pull this off! I'm going to try it forsure...Thanks for posting itAnd heck...it can't hurt to tighten up the ol booty alittle bit either ;)Ayla

--- topper2@... wrote:

> Oh wow!!! I do the butt squeeze thing as part of my> stretching thing> before bed and before Bedxercises. I always felt> more relaxed and at ease> after it... never really thought much about why that

> did that to me, just> made it part of my routine.... now I've learned> why.. that it involves> loosening the back.... Cool!> > Speaking of Bedxercise... I mention that on the

> ThyroPhoenix site and> darned if it that didn't get picked up in a porn> link.... the guys that> are searching for porn type exercises are now> getting pointed toward a> website dealing with thyroid care.. heheehhe that

> has to be a> disappointment.... I thought about making a stink> about it and getting> the link removed from the site... but those guys> might know someone that> might benefit from thyroid info so I just let it

> ride....> > Topper ()> > On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:18:43 -0500 Lynn> <

lynn@...> writes:> During my second back injury, I would get prickling,> tingling, cold and > then numbness in some of my toes. This radiated down> from my pinched > sciatic nerve in my back. I also had extreme pain in

> the fronts of my > thighs, down the back of my legs, etc. is right> that your little > toe problem could be a pinch somewhere. To be honest> though, you may be > able to stretch yourself out of it, before your next

> appointment every > comes up. Or, alternatively, a decent Osteopathic> physician who handles > family care can help you figure this out too. It is> easy stuff for them. > The book I recommended last week to for healing

> back pain naturally > might also benefit you. If you would like, I can> describe a few beginner > simple stretches that may help you start softening> up the pain and > tightness.

> > As a quick note, even if you are unable to get up> out of bed from back > pain (as I was at one point) you can start by doing> " butt crunches " > gently. Those big ole muscles in your rump can help

> you loosen your back > tightness, which in turns loosens other things as> well. You can do this > sitting, laying down, standing, driving ...> where-ever. You gently and > slowly squeeze those butt muscles, hold it for a few

> seconds, then very > slowly and very gently release that squeeze. Repeat> a few times - always > gently. Always slowly. You can do this every hour or> as often as you > need to. It is a safe exercise.

> > Best,> -Lynn

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Re: Left pnky toe numb

If all else fails.. there is self treating... It's not something for just anyone to do... but sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get things done, to keep things going until you can get a doc that understands that if this is taken care of properly you aren't 'sick' anymore.....

Give me a holler off list and we'll banter some ideas back and forth for options, if you want....

Some docs are better with giving you what you need when you can come in and say that this is what I'm on and I'm doing this much better than when I was on the lesser dose, let's see if we can get even more improvement... Then show that you've been self monitoring and watching closely - demonstrating responsibility in your own well being and health.

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he has been made well aware, however made several errors in letters, errors that a kindergardener would make.. i know i need a new doctor.. this one is foreign, and yes, i have to knock that hard not because of his nationality but because he didn't go to school here.. would've taken months to get in to see a regular endo..

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Hummm, with his being educated in another country, did you by any

chance, check to verify that he is board certified in his specialty

in this country and licensed to practice in your state?

I ask this because there was/is a really big problem in regards to

foreign doctors working in the states without passing the American

licensing boards exams and working under another doctors license.

There is a reason that foreigners come to the states for their

medical training...most of the US and CA medical training schools

are the best in the world.

Gossimer

>

> he has been made well aware, however made several errors in

letters, errors that a kindergardener would make.. i know i need a

new doctor.. this one is foreign, and yes, i have to knock that hard

not because of his nationality but because he didn't go to school

here.. would've taken months to get in to see a regular endo..

>

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Goss is right. Check with the AMA (M.D./allopathic physician) and A.O.A. (osteopathic) website and they should be able to tell you the info you need. You can also check with your state's licensing board and they will be able to direct you to the right office.

If the doctor is affiliated with a certain hospital you may be able to look them up on the hospital's website also.

Good luck,

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Hummm, with his being educated in another country, did you by any chance, check to verify that he is board certified in his specialty in this country and licensed to practice in your state?I ask this because there was/is a really big problem in regards to foreign doctors working in the states without passing the American licensing boards exams and working under another doctors license. There is a reason that foreigners come to the states for their medical training...most of the US and CA medical training schools are the best in the world. Gossimer>> he has been made well aware, however made several errors in letters, errors that a kindergardener would make.. i know i need a new doctor.. this one is foreign, and yes, i have to knock that hard not because of his nationality but because he didn't go to school here.. would've taken months to get in to see a regular endo..>

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