Re: EVERYONE PLEASE READ & HEED-- PLEASE!!! (Deleting Duplicate...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2004 3:37:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

trairden@... writes:

> It's simply not that hard to edit the previous message down, by

> selecting/highlighting then deleting irrelevant or superfluous

> portions of it and by deleting its antecedent message(s). Not to do so

> is inconsiderate and lazy, essentially expressing the feeling that

> one's being heard is far more important than being considerate and

> taking slightly more time in order to make the message content

> focussed and useful.

>

>

Since I try to think the best of others and look on the positive side, a

policy which is more heart healthy, I can think of another reason that people

are

posting excess material. Some people are simply not as adept at computer

usage and are a bit intimidated by the whole process. For some people, the

process of editing might seem quite unfathomable or hard for a variety of

reasons,

some being afib related. In fact, many posters in this group and others have

made the comment that they don't know much about computers and are afraid of

making mistakes. Many of these fearful people have seemed so desperate about

their afib that they are willing to take the intimidating step of fighting the

computer giant and moving beyond their level of comfort. For this reason, I

think it is possible that not everyone who posts excess material is

inconsiderate or lazy. Some, or perhaps most, may be unknowledgeable,

desperate, highly

distracted by afib's terrifying symptoms, disoriented, and/or confused.

Haven't we all experienced those problems at times when in the throes of afib?

I

know that 20 years ago I was so distracted and terrified by afib that I

couldn't perform even the simplest, ordinary tasks of living. I think

compassionate

understanding and the gentle reminders that have already been given are

appropriate here. Compassionate understanding will encourage intimidated

afibbers

to summon the courage to make a post here.

Also, I believe that group participants were asked not to use capital letters

in message titles or in the messages themselves since some perceive this as

the equivalent of shouting. This reminder was given in an appropriately gentle

way, but obviously we all make mistakes and forget from time to time what we

should be doing, as is evidenced by the title of this message. :-) I'm in

favor of understanding, compassion, and gentle reminders except in cases where

malicious, abusive, or possibly dangerous intent on the part of the poster is

obvious.

in sinus in Seattle

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2004 5:16:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

susieq1958fla@... writes:

> Your comment was very well said. I am one of the ones that is very new at

> the computer. If I can figure out how to delete and snip I will be very glad

> to do so. Thanks again for your compassion!

>

Hi, Susie,

I am glad that you are able to post here and share with us, and your computer

knowledge will grow with use. But even if you never learn how to cut and

paste or delete, I would still rather hear from you. I would feel very sorry if

some like you are reluctant to post and receive support for their afib

problems because they are not as knowledgeable about the computer as veteran

users.

It's probably difficult to describe a method for deleting that will work in

all e-mail systems, but generally if one uses the mouse to place the cursor at

the beginning of the material you want to quote, clicks on the left side of

the mouse, and drags the cursor over the material you want to appear in your

reply, only the part of the original post to which you want to reply will be

selected. Then you can click on " copy, " open up an e-mail form, click on the

spot

where you want the quoted material to appear, and then click on " paste, " a

command which should be available to you in the " edit " section of your tool bar.

With this method, only the material to which you are responding will appear

in your new reply. Or with some e-mail services like AOL, all you have to do

is highlight the material you want to appear in your new response message and

click on " reply. " The highlighted material will automatically appear in your

new message above the area where you write. For those you have " Outlook " it's

a bit more tricky, because the whole message appears in your response

automatically, and you have to manually delete it.

I hope this is helpful to any who are having difficulty with posting, but if

it isn't, I hope you will continue to post anyway. I think the opportunity

for all to be heard is worth the expenditure of a little extra bandwidth.

in sinus in Seattle

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/2004 4:55:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

kstept@... writes:

> I am surprised and disappointed at seeing a personal attack on this board,

> the very first I have ever encountered here. I have no objection to

> disagreement, but personal attacks are just not necessary.

>

>

Kathleen,

I agree. It is possible to disagree agreeably without being disrespectful or

abusive to another person, and that positive approach is much healthier for

our hearts. Resentment and hostility are not healthful emotions, and my doctor

brother tells me that these negative emotions harm the person who harbors

them more than their expression can harm the recipient of those feelings.

Forgiveness helps the forgiver more it helps the forgiven.

in sinus in Seattle

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your comment was very well said. I am one of the ones that is very new at the

computer. If I can figure out how to delete and snip I will be very glad to do

so. Thanks again for your compassion!

Susie

Starfi6314@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/26/2004 3:37:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

trairden@... writes:

> It's simply not that hard to edit the previous message down, by

> selecting/highlighting then deleting irrelevant or superfluous

> portions of it and by deleting its antecedent message(s). Not to do so

> is inconsiderate and lazy, essentially expressing the feeling that

> one's being heard is far more important than being considerate and

> taking slightly more time in order to make the message content

> focussed and useful.

>

>

Since I try to think the best of others and look on the positive side, a

policy which is more heart healthy, I can think of another reason that people

are

posting excess material. Some people are simply not as adept at computer

usage and are a bit intimidated by the whole process. For some people, the

process of editing might seem quite unfathomable or hard for a variety of

reasons,

some being afib related. In fact, many posters in this group and others have

made the comment that they don't know much about computers and are afraid of

making mistakes. Many of these fearful people have seemed so desperate about

their afib that they are willing to take the intimidating step of fighting the

computer giant and moving beyond their level of comfort. For this reason, I

think it is possible that not everyone who posts excess material is

inconsiderate or lazy. Some, or perhaps most, may be unknowledgeable,

desperate, highly

distracted by afib's terrifying symptoms, disoriented, and/or confused.

Haven't we all experienced those problems at times when in the throes of afib?

I

know that 20 years ago I was so distracted and terrified by afib that I

couldn't perform even the simplest, ordinary tasks of living. I think

compassionate

understanding and the gentle reminders that have already been given are

appropriate here. Compassionate understanding will encourage intimidated

afibbers

to summon the courage to make a post here.

Also, I believe that group participants were asked not to use capital letters

in message titles or in the messages themselves since some perceive this as

the equivalent of shouting. This reminder was given in an appropriately gentle

way, but obviously we all make mistakes and forget from time to time what we

should be doing, as is evidenced by the title of this message. :-) I'm in

favor of understanding, compassion, and gentle reminders except in cases where

malicious, abusive, or possibly dangerous intent on the part of the poster is

obvious.

in sinus in Seattle