Re: reducing high cortisol

[Guest guest]

I have high cortisol and it has nothign to so with stress in my life or

mental anything. It has ot do with a malfunctioning body.

How can you know this Val?

I am inclined to agree with to a point in that I think it probably is

true that meditation and yoga can go a long way to keeping us healthy.

Whether it would lower cortisol I cannot say.

I used to do a lot of transcendental meditation and yoga and it changed me

in very deep ways. Had i kept it up I may not have ended up in the mess I am in

now.

I think the people behind TM did a lot of research, The Maharishi Institute

I think they called themselves.

I'll have a hunt and see if I can find anything interesting.

Mo

[Guest guest]

>>To my knowledge the most effective ways to reduce high cortisol are exercise,

meditation and yoga<<

where do you get this stuff? Show me ONE persin that cured their high

cortisl with any of these methods? Where is the proof? PROOF in scientoific

studies pleas not a websote selling something. MOST people with HIG H cportisl

cannto exercise and might easily cause tyhemselves a heart attack for their

troubles. I know a person that TAUGHT Yoga that has severe adrenal problems now,

and meditation? SOrry this is NOT true. High cortilsl is NOT a mental problem it

is physical. I have high cortisol and it has nothign to so with stress in my

life or mental anything. It has ot do with a malfunctioning body.

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Show me the healed people OR the scientific studies. I have almost NO

stress in my life. I have no mental stresses causing my high cortiosl. I

am not holding on to things. Sorry don;t buy that. I meditate with my

kitties every night with a loc3e affair that has no bounds but Yoga..

well I doubt my old body would do it any more. Exercise is OUT./ I get

plenty lifting ans wrestluign dogs every day and jsut walking the lenght

of my shop 100 times. I do not so aerobics as my heart would crash.

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Val,

Meditation is not about mental problems. As far as I know high cortisol is

treated by reducing stress. What I have proposed here are scientifically proven

stress reduction methods. Exercise reduces stress and so does yoga and

meditation. After all, isn't high cortisol usually produced in response to

stress?

Re: reducing high cortisol

>>To my knowledge the most effective ways to reduce high cortisol are

exercise, meditation and yoga<<

where do you get this stuff? Show me ONE persin that cured their high

cortisl with any of these methods? Where is the proof? PROOF in scientoific

studies pleas not a websote selling something. MOST people with HIG H cportisl

cannto exercise and might easily cause tyhemselves a heart attack for their

troubles. I know a person that TAUGHT Yoga that has severe adrenal problems now,

and meditation? SOrry this is NOT true. High cortilsl is NOT a mental problem it

is physical. I have high cortisol and it has nothign to so with stress in my

life or mental anything. It has ot do with a malfunctioning body.

--

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[Guest guest]

>> After all, isn't high cortisol usually produced in response to stress?<<

So goes the theory when they do not know what ELSE may be causing the high

cortiosl. I am telling MANY opeopel it is NOT caused by stress. I ahve NO

stresses in my life to speak of. Whta about PHYSICAL stress of just being ill?

What about adrenal hyperplasia which they have no clue what causes it?

Meditation is NOT going to cure this high cortiosl. WHat abou high cortiosl from

the stress of 25 years of hypothyroidism?

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>> After all, isn't high cortisol usually produced in response to stress?<<

So goes the theory when they do not know what ELSE may be causing the high

cortiosl. I am telling MANY opeopel it is NOT caused by stress. I ahve NO

stresses in my life to speak of. Whta about PHYSICAL stress of just being ill?

What about adrenal hyperplasia which they have no clue what causes it?

Meditation is NOT going to cure this high cortiosl. WHat abou high cortiosl from

the stress of 25 years of hypothyroidism?

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Val,

Your kitty cats (and mind) are a big form of stress reduction. I don't think

any of us can live in today's society and not experience stress even if we think

we don't have stress in our life. I too supposedly have no stress in my life (I

haven't got one responsibility right now) and YET my body responds to its

environment as if I'm in fight or flight 24/7.

I am constantly saing that I feel totally " stressed out " yet there is no

visibile stress in my life. When I was high corisol back in the 90's, I felt so

much better when I went for long brisk walks and I did meditation. I stopped

doing those things and I crashed big time. Now I cannot exercise.

Re: reducing high cortisol

Show me the healed people OR the scientific studies. I have almost NO

stress in my life. I have no mental stresses causing my high cortiosl. I

am not holding on to things. Sorry don;t buy that. I meditate with my

kitties every night with a loc3e affair that has no bounds but Yoga..

well I doubt my old body would do it any more. Exercise is OUT./ I get

plenty lifting ans wrestluign dogs every day and jsut walking the lenght

of my shop 100 times. I do not so aerobics as my heart would crash.

--

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[Guest guest]

I knew there were many scientific studies about TM reducing cortisol. Thanks.

Re: reducing high cortisol

Go to PubMed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

...and search for these 'strings':

transcendental meditation cortisol

transcendental meditation DHEA

transcendental meditation

Google: " transcendental meditation " + cortisol -- 16,400 results >>

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22transcendental+meditation%22+cortisol

--- NOVAexeter@... wrote:

>

>I am inclined to agree with to a point in that I think it probably is

true that meditation and yoga can go a long way to keeping us healthy.

>Whether it would lower cortisol I cannot say.

>I used to do a lot of transcendental meditation and yoga and it changed me in

very deep ways. Had i kept it up I may not have ended up in the mess I am in

now.

>I think the people behind TM did a lot of research, The Maharishi Institute I

think they called themselves.

>I'll have a hunt and see if I can find anything interesting.

>

>Mo

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Val,

I totally understand what you are saying. I know that you are more of a

scientific thinker, but meditation and yoga are proven to help the glands and to

rebalance the endocrine system and other organs of the body. I will try to find

some info on this.

Re: reducing high cortisol

>> After all, isn't high cortisol usually produced in response to stress?<<

So goes the theory when they do not know what ELSE may be causing the high

cortiosl. I am telling MANY opeopel it is NOT caused by stress. I ahve NO

stresses in my life to speak of. Whta about PHYSICAL stress of just being ill?

What about adrenal hyperplasia which they have no clue what causes it?

Meditation is NOT going to cure this high cortiosl. WHat abou high cortiosl from

the stress of 25 years of hypothyroidism?

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the stress from Diabetes is PHYSICAL for me not mental. I have a

better A1c and glucose reading snow than most NON Diabetics. But it is a

PHYSICAL stress which is my point. So is the many years of hypothyrod

which left me with a weakened heart and probabyl weakened organs. My

adrenals have had to over compensate for many years whihc has possibly

caused adrenal; hyperplasia.. which is a fancy term for super adrenals

whihc have grown too large to meet the demands on them, and just never

returned to normal size cause they are physically damaged.

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Val,

I understand. But how can having all of this happen not be at all upsetting

emotionally. The emotional aspect is the biggest cause of stress rather than

mental. I don't want to open up a can of worms here but I have been doing some

very interesting research and reading lately. I have read all of Carolyn Myss'

books where she explains the emotional components to physical illness. She gets

very specific too and then I took what I learned and looked around me at people

we know and it's interesting how it seems to apply.

For example, the heart chakra represents the breasts, lungs, heart, etc. She

says that death or loss/grief over a child can trigger cancer of the breasts

(the nurturing organs). This is the case with Sen. 's wife (she lost

a child). Then there's Reeve's wife (lung cancer created by grief)

That woman never smoked or did anything unhealthy, yet six months after her

husband died she got lung cancer (grief-related and died). The list goes on and

on. She even narrows it down and says that cancer of the right breast is about

a child and cancer of the left breast is about grief over failed love

relationships. How many people here know women who developed breast cancer

after a divorce. She says with matters of the heart it'll hit you in the area

of the heart chakra where you are most genetically predisposed. If you're

pre-disposed to heart disease then that's what you'll get rather than say breast

cancer. All I'm saying is the mind/emotions are huge and often times we are not

even in touch with our emotions and just block them out so that we can pretend

we are okay. So maybe I should change my question and ask you " How has all this

affected you emotionally " ? You must have gone thru anger, resentment at the

medical system/doctors/ grief over the loss of your mother to medical

negligence, etc. etc. How can this NOT have affected you emotionally and how

can it NOT still bring up emotions as you now face life with diabetes knowing it

all could have been prevented. I know you're strong and you have moved on and

probably let go of the anger, but underneath it all you are a compassionate and

feeling person; you are not made of stone.

Re: reducing high cortisol

the stress from Diabetes is PHYSICAL for me not mental. I have a

better A1c and glucose reading snow than most NON Diabetics. But it is a

PHYSICAL stress which is my point. So is the many years of hypothyrod

which left me with a weakened heart and probabyl weakened organs. My

adrenals have had to over compensate for many years whihc has possibly

caused adrenal; hyperplasia.. which is a fancy term for super adrenals

whihc have grown too large to meet the demands on them, and just never

returned to normal size cause they are physically damaged.

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But , oyu are loking only at the negatives in my life adn believe

me, there are even worse ones than oyu know about. I have the best life

of anyone I know right NOW. I have complete freedom to do anything i

please, I opnly lack energy. I have my finanaces in better order now

than EVER i my life. I am my own boss and have a stress free business.

I only groom the pets I want to groom and have gotten to a place where

if I do not kike the pet OR owner, I refuse them. My family that drug me

down for years is now GOINE they are dead as far as I am concerned,

which may sound cruel but it si a self defense mechanism I have in place

to survive them. Yes I have anger at the medical system that ruined my

health. But i expend that anger by helping others to not go through what

I went through. I have develop[ed HEALTHY alternatives to negative

emotions. but I still have high cortiosl.

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Are you saying Reeves and cancers are caused by their emotional

baggage? Did you know the DOES meditate and so did Mrs.

Reeves? Mrs. Reeves friends in fact, describe her as one of the most

spiritually enlightened and emotional stable people they ever knew.

Kind of blow Myss's theory out the window on that. I think Myss is doing

what in psychology terms is called " projecting " .

Everyone on the planet has emotional baggage of some sort. Not everyone gets

cancer or adrenal disease. I have aunts healthy as can be in their 80s who

have suffered more tragedy and emotional issues, stuffed those feelings in,

never did yoga or meditate a day in their lives. Why would they not be

riddled with disease if this is so simple...if all disease was in the mind?

What I know for sure is, unlike my Mother and the younger siblings, those

aunts were not exposed to the same environmental toxins.

Don't dismiss the physical so readily. The mind/body connection is about the

physical affecting the mental too. Myss seems to only understand it one way.

Cheri

Re: reducing high cortisol

I have read all of Carolyn Myss' books where she explains the emotional

components to physical illness. She gets very specific too and then I took

what I learned and looked around me at people we know and it's interesting

how it seems to apply.

For example, the heart chakra represents the breasts, lungs, heart, etc.

She says that death or loss/grief over a child can trigger cancer of the

breasts (the nurturing organs). This is the case with Sen. 's

wife (she lost a child). Then there's Reeve's wife (lung cancer

created by grief) That woman never smoked or did anything unhealthy, yet six

months after her husband died she got lung cancer (grief-related and died).

.

[Guest guest]

- did you put the hc in capsules before

swallowing?

--- Gikas wrote:

> Val,

>

> Speaking of high cortisol. Why do docs still do

> saliva tests when you are on HC? This is what

> started this whole mess for me a few months ago. My

> holistic gyno looked at my original saliva test and

> said " Oh, I see why they put you on HC " . At that

> point I had adrenal insufficiency with all the

> suffering. So she said she wanted to do a saliva

> test to " see if I was on the right dose " and she did

> and my cortisol levels came out REALLY HIGH and she

> said " I don't know how you are even sleeping; you

> are on too much " . This is when I was taking 15 mgs.

> but I was doing well. So when the lab sent back the

> results, they recommended 7.5 and so I did what she

> said and then got into BIG TROUBLE as you know. Is

> there anyway that someone can be adrenally

> insufficient and yet still be high cortisol? This

> doesn't make any sense to me and I don't understand

> it. When I was taking 15 mgs., I was using it all

> up for sure without a doubt in my mind, so why did

> my cortisol come up SO HIGH on a saliva test?

>

>

> Re: reducing high cortisol

>

>

> But , oyu are loking only at the negatives

> in my life adn believe

> me, there are even worse ones than oyu know about.

> I have the best life

> of anyone I know right NOW. I have complete

> freedom to do anything i

> please, I opnly lack energy. I have my finanaces

> in better order now

> than EVER i my life. I am my own boss and have a

> stress free business.

> I only groom the pets I want to groom and have

> gotten to a place where

> if I do not kike the pet OR owner, I refuse them.

> My family that drug me

> down for years is now GOINE they are dead as far

> as I am concerned,

> which may sound cruel but it si a self defense

> mechanism I have in place

> to survive them. Yes I have anger at the medical

> system that ruined my

> health. But i expend that anger by helping others

> to not go through what

> I went through. I have develop[ed HEALTHY

> alternatives to negative

> emotions. but I still have high cortiosl.

>

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I take the tablets/not capsules.

Re: reducing high cortisol

>

>

> But , oyu are loking only at the negatives

> in my life adn believe

> me, there are even worse ones than oyu know about.

> I have the best life

> of anyone I know right NOW. I have complete

> freedom to do anything i

> please, I opnly lack energy. I have my finanaces

> in better order now

> than EVER i my life. I am my own boss and have a

> stress free business.

> I only groom the pets I want to groom and have

> gotten to a place where

> if I do not kike the pet OR owner, I refuse them.

> My family that drug me

> down for years is now GOINE they are dead as far

> as I am concerned,

> which may sound cruel but it si a self defense

> mechanism I have in place

> to survive them. Yes I have anger at the medical

> system that ruined my

> health. But i expend that anger by helping others

> to not go through what

> I went through. I have develop[ed HEALTHY

> alternatives to negative

> emotions. but I still have high cortiosl.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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