Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I take Magnesium Chelate every day. Don't bother taking Magnesium Oxide, your body will have a hard time absorbing it. Read the label carefully (as always). Multi vites typically contain magnesium oxide but it's cheaper than dirt. Magnesium is good for many things and my Afib certainly hasn't gotten any worse since I started taking it. If anything it got better but who knows what caused that. If you want to read more about Magnesium I can recommend 'The Protein Power Life plan' by the Drs. Eades. Even if you don't think low-carb is for you the chapters about various minerals could still be of interest. Sander Magnesium I'm sure this has been posted before, but I couldn't find any information. Does anyone have any experience with afib and magnesium? I've heard magnesium decreases your afib episode frequency. Is there any empirical evidence to this? Does it prevent afib episodes or help in anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 In a message dated 10/19/04 2:11:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, zansheva@... writes: > Does anyone have any experience with afib and > magnesium? I've heard magnesium decreases your afib episode > frequency. Is there any empirical evidence to this? Does it prevent > afib episodes or help in anyway? It's been a god-send for me, though it works better at some times than others, and I'm not sure what differentiates those times. I take 200 mg. 2-3 times a day, more if I'm actually in a-fib. Too much doesn't hurt and can give you the runs, but sometimes that's a good trade-off for me. I'd rather have the runs than a-fib. It's especially helpful for me as I seek more holistic remedies (or helps anyway) since I can't take any of the regular meds most of the people on this list can or do (if they want to) ... I only take digoxin and 81mg aspirin. Go to the archives on this list ... there is a lot posted. I still believe in magnesium helping. And note that by the time a blood test actually measures that you're low in magnesium, it's low in the cells ... usually a blood test (as with potassium, according to my doctor) can't actually test how much usable magnesium you have ... just what's currently in your cells from which they make an educated guess. She's been pleased with my response to the magnesium (she's my regular doc, not an EP or a cardiologist), but her feeling is that if it works, go for it since too much magnesium is not usually a problem. She did say to keep under 1200 mgs daily though (which I am well under), so that was my guideline. Good luck. Oh, and others have opinions on which is the easiest to metabolize ... some take SlowMag which is apparently hard to find. I take calcium citrate which is easy to find, relatively cheap, and works dandy. Toni CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Hi I take magnesium and yes this has come up many time before with the magnetic beds. I am not sure if AF will be decreased by taking Magnesium. One thing is that if we lack magnesium if may cause irregular heart beat. I honestly believe why not try it, its cheap and if you over dose on it, the only side effect would be the trots. So you cannot lose on this regime. C Uk Ps I take magnesium for cramps and to help my body since my thyroid was destroyed due that great drug Amiodarone. > > I'm sure this has been posted before, but I couldn't find any > information. Does anyone have any experience with afib and > magnesium? I've heard magnesium decreases your afib episode > frequency. Is there any empirical evidence to this? Does it prevent > afib episodes or help in anyway? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Well over a year ago I started to read in this archive references to magnesium being used to stop or limit Afib episodes in some of the people who posted here. At the time I was having at least 2, if not 3, full fledged attacks per week lasting anywhere from 6 to 12 hours at a time. I was desperate; my quality of life was zero. There was also a thought in the back of my mind that some of these posters were verging into a catagory that I considered to be in the 'wacko' fringe. I started researching many different supplements on the 'net'. I figured I had nothing to lose and everything to gain. I started taking over a dozen different supplements and had to stop some fairly quickly because they interfered with my INR levels or showed way too high concentrations in blood tests. Afib episodes started decreasing rapidly, especially the ectopics. Once I had stabilized for several months and only having Afib episodes about once a month along with the fact that my attacks were now lasting only a couple hours, I started to experiment by stopping one supplement at a time for several days. The only one that had any major effect on me was stopping the magnesium. After 3 or 4 days of not taking that my Afib episodes returned to previous levels. I slightly disagree with the comment I read in one of the responses to your posting that " magnesium oxide is not absorbed. " It does take a higher dosage to be effective, but since it is so cheap merely doubling the intake more than compensates...at least for me. Inall this time I have not changed my standard medications, Tambocor 100mg X 2, Atenolol 50mg, warfarin 7.5mg. I'm not cured by any means, but my quality of life has greatly improved now that I look upon an Afib attack as a minor inconvenience instead of the major factor in my life before. Yes, I am a strong believer in magnesium being a 'miracle drug' for my condition. This does not mean that 'it' by itself will help you totally. I believe that the other drugs work better with a higher concentration of magnesium ions in your heart muscles. S. <snip> Does it prevent afib episodes or help in anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 In a message dated 10/20/04 2:04:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yy@... writes: > am I correct in recalling some study which cautions > against use of high dosage because of ill effects (potentially serious > in the long run) upon the kidneys?? My doctor mentioned that when she advised keeping the maximum dose under 1200 mgs. a day ... I take 600 regularly (200 mgs. 3x a day) and I take extra if I'm actually in a-fib, but I've still kept it under (or at) 1200 mgs. a day based on her advice. She said it's a remote chance, but wanted to be cautious and at least share the info with me. Toni CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 There has been a lot of speculation on this board re Magnesium and the effects of the stuff if you are low. I can only add something that happened to my wife after finding she was low. I have no thyriod due to Amiodarone medication. I have been having terrible trouble since having PVA, really after the PVA I thought I could get on with my life but that was not to be but that is another stopy for another time. I went to two DRs both MDs who treats with vitimins minerals and other herbs etc. I feel they are looked down upom in the UK but when all else has failed what can one do to get better!!!. This DRs took bloods and said I was very very low in Magnesium, so I started on a course of the stuff, no side effect but it did nothing for the cramps I was complaing about. My wife went for a general check up for fertility treatment and found her blood pressure was very high. 190. 150 and sometimes 160 . The Dr Prescribed a course of Magnesium. it took about a month but her blood pressure went down slowly and although still on the normal high it went down. Our GP wanted to put Tania on a Blood pressure drug but this would be for the rest of her life. Tania is a little over weight and with diet and excersise perhaps we can get this to normal.. I asked both the Drs who believe in this treatment why we are so short of Magnesium and it was mainly out diet, I will not going into what parts of the diet as I got shouted down on this board and it casued a forore and it was not worth it. I also asked my EP if taking Magneium what effect it will have on my heart. He said being low on the stuff will not cause your AF but taking it will not harm you and will make your heart go better. My advice it to take a Magneium from the Nutir centre they are both in the USA and the UK try it and as your quite rightly point out it will only cause the runs at worst. You never know it may make you feel better. I hope that helps a little. C Uk > > > I have a physician friend who things magnesium is a cure for all sorts > of things. The problem, as many have discovered, is that you can only > take so much orally before you get the runs. But you can rub the > stuff on your skin or soak in it and have it absorbed that way without > getting the runs, although it's hard to say how much you're taking. > > I have been doing this sporadically, but haven't decided yet whether > it really helps my Afib. But it does give me the psychological > satisfaction to think I'm doing something, instead of just sitting > around passively. I'll post something when I've finally concluded > whether it works for me or not. >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Charley: I am a born skeptic when it comes to herb and other supplements being the greatest things 'since sliced bread' that will cure almost every ailment with which mankind is afflicted, but over a year ago a member of this board named Otis who claimed that soaking in a tub of hot water and Epson Salts (magnesium sulfate) converted him out of Afib episodes. To use a pun... I took that comment with a grain of salt. But, after several days of Internet research on magnesium in particular and other elemental minerals in general I decided to try taking magnesium in all the different forms that I found in my local supermarket. Within several days the ectopic beats that usually signaled my going into a full Afib episode dropped noticeably. Even when I did have the occasional episode it was milder and shorter than normal. I am now taking at least 500 mg/day of magnesium oxide orally and am happy that I found something that works both so well and so cheaply. I have not seen Otis contribute to this board for quite some time now. I hope it is because he feels so much better and has no more need of the support this great board gives to every member. S. > > I have a physician friend who things magnesium is a cure for all sorts > of things. The problem, as many have discovered, is that you can only > take so much orally before you get the runs. But you can rub the > stuff on your skin or soak in it and have it absorbed that way without > getting the runs, although it's hard to say how much you're taking. > > I have been doing this sporadically, but haven't decided yet whether > it really helps my Afib. But it does give me the psychological > satisfaction to think I'm doing something, instead of just sitting > around passively. I'll post something when I've finally concluded > whether it works for me or not. > > If you want to read up on it and perhaps try your own experiment with > it, go to http://www.yourlifesource.com/cwr-dhea.htm > > Charley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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