Re: Had another attack last night - melatonin

[Guest guest]

which meds Nicola? A story I would like to hear

Mo

[Guest guest]

My endo told me that melatonin drives down cortisol, so this may

explain your panicky awakenings. If the melatonin is reducing

cortisol, you may be having an adrenalin surge...

What dose of melatonin are you taking? My endo told me to take no

more than 1.5mg, sublingually. This would avoid this problem, and

the hangover feeling you get from a " horses' dose " of 3mg.

I eventually gave up on melatonin for the cortisol reason. I

couldn't face waking up and wondering why - whether it was due to low

cortisol, or not, etc. Then I went on sleeping meds, but that's a

whole other story.

Best

Nicola

-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " jasrich "

wrote:

>

> This one was as bad as the first several weeks ago and came on

exactly

> the same way. I took my bed-time dose of 5mg of HC at 11PM, with a

> piece of cheese, read until around 11:30, turned off the light and

> immediately fell asleep. At 12:30 I woke up all of a sudden,

> sweating, panicking, with my hands and feet tingling, pain in the

> stomach, nausea, short of breath, palps, etc. I tried to ride out

the

> panic by reasoning with myself that I knew what this was and that it

> would go away, but it was too intense so I got up and took a Xanax.

I

> fell back to sleep eventually, but I feel tired and pretty much

awful

> today as I always do after I have these things.

>

> I just don't understand what is causing these as I can't be going

low

> cortisol and hypogly less than an hour after taking HC. It's

different

> from how I wake up at 5AM hungry and sweating. I know when that

> happens that I have to get up and eat which is what I have been

doing

> this past week to deal with the middle of the night hypogly. One

> thing that I noticed last night is that the label on my

> melatonin/valerian root/gaba herbal sleep aid warns about taking it

if

> one has endocrine disorders. Maybe the melatonin is doing this?

>

> Holy crap I just found this:

>

> If you take too much melatonin, you may experience the following

effects:

>

> If you take too much melatonin, you may experience the following

effects:

>

> * Drowsiness upon arising

> * Wild, not just vivid, (bad) dreams

> * An excess of the thyroid hormone (T3), resulting in waking up

> nervous, sweating, and with palpitations

>

> Maybe I've been doing this to myself by taking these herbal sleep

> remedies. I guess I know one thing to stop taking.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Another thought is that valerian is very stimulating for some

people. If I take it, I can not go to sleep AT ALL. The last time I

tried it, I finally took at nap at 7 a.m., then had to be up with the

kiddos at 8. The entire bottle went in the garbage.

GABA can not cross the blood-brain barrier, but can be be broken down

to glutamine quite easily. Glutamine acts as an excitatory

transmitter. I know a lot of people who don't tolerate it, including

my familly.

Melatonin can also cause insomonia if you take too much or don't need

it. Again, my family found out the hard way.

The combination you mentioned would have me wired for sound for at

least two nights.

> >

> > This one was as bad as the first several weeks ago and came on

> exactly

> > the same way. I took my bed-time dose of 5mg of HC at 11PM,

with a

> > piece of cheese, read until around 11:30, turned off the light and

> > immediately fell asleep. At 12:30 I woke up all of a sudden,

> > sweating, panicking, with my hands and feet tingling, pain in the

> > stomach, nausea, short of breath, palps, etc. I tried to ride

out

> the

> > panic by reasoning with myself that I knew what this was and that

it

> > would go away, but it was too intense so I got up and took a

Xanax.

> I

> > fell back to sleep eventually, but I feel tired and pretty much

> awful

> > today as I always do after I have these things.

> >

> > I just don't understand what is causing these as I can't be going

> low

> > cortisol and hypogly less than an hour after taking HC. It's

> different

> > from how I wake up at 5AM hungry and sweating. I know when that

> > happens that I have to get up and eat which is what I have been

> doing

> > this past week to deal with the middle of the night hypogly. One

> > thing that I noticed last night is that the label on my

> > melatonin/valerian root/gaba herbal sleep aid warns about taking

it

> if

> > one has endocrine disorders. Maybe the melatonin is doing this?

> >

> > Holy crap I just found this:

> >

> > If you take too much melatonin, you may experience the following

> effects:

> >

> > If you take too much melatonin, you may experience the following

> effects:

> >

> > * Drowsiness upon arising

> > * Wild, not just vivid, (bad) dreams

> > * An excess of the thyroid hormone (T3), resulting in waking

up

> > nervous, sweating, and with palpitations

> >

> > Maybe I've been doing this to myself by taking these herbal sleep

> > remedies. I guess I know one thing to stop taking.

> >

> >

> >

>