Re: I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice, please!

June 21, 2001

How often are you eating the Atkins Bars? There has been a lot of

discussions about hidden cvarbs in them and that they can cause stalls.

Perhaps you should stay away from them for a while and see what happens.

Also, some bacon is sugar cured, check your brand.

Hope this helps, Debra

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June 21, 2001

Have the bars been a part of your daily menu since you started back on

induction? If they have been, it is probably just a normal fluctuation in

the rate of weight loss. Many people don't lose consistently each week, but

lose in fits and spurts with periods of maintaining followed by a nice WOOSH

of loss.

If the bars are something you added right before your weight loss slowed, it

may be worthwhile eliminating them from your diet for a week or two and

observing the results.

Kirstie

June 21, 2001

> Have the bars been a part of your daily menu since you started back on

> induction? If they have been, it is probably just a normal fluctuation in

> the rate of weight loss. Many people don't lose consistently each week, but

> lose in fits and spurts with periods of maintaining followed by a nice WOOSH

> of loss.

Thank you for mentioning that, Kirstie. Again, everybody's been so quick

to say, " Ack! It's the bars! Get rid of the bars. " But it could in fact

be perfectly normal for her.

Also, something that I noticed when I looked over her menu was that 1) she

was eating Mc's beef which isn't 100% beef; it has fillers. 2) she

didn't seem to be eating enough veggies, and 3) she didn't mention

anything about supplements.

> If the bars are something you added right before your weight loss slowed, it

> may be worthwhile eliminating them from your diet for a week or two and

> observing the results.

Well put. She also may just be overdoing them if she's having more than 1

bar per day. Just an idea.

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3/26/01

June 21, 2001

Hi T,

I read through the menu you posted and the thought that kept repeating in my

brain was " Where's the veggies? " On Induction you need 20 carbs a day from

veggies, 3 cups of fresh green salad veggies (no carrots, corn, peas or

taters) or 2 cups of salad with 2/3 cup steamed veggies. That's alot of

veggies, more than I ate when I was low fat or even vegetarian! The veggies

have fiber and nutrients you need, and it's dangerous to eat all meat or

protien and no veggies for a prolonged period of time.

The Atkins Bars may or may not be a wise choice until you hit maintenance -

they do have more carbs in them than listed (they contain glycerine, which

some people metabolize as a carb and some don't, and because of this

labelling laws allow the manufacturers to leave out the carb count of the

glycerine). They have been known to cause people to stall, and one or two a

day on a regular basis (especially in induction) could be your problem.

(Plus the carbs you are spending on them would be better spent on veggies ,

imho). If it were me I'd save the bars until you are at or near goal - I

rarely eat them, just sometimes if we're travelling I like to have them in

my purse, as I too am hypoglycemic, and if we get lost in the middle of

nowhere (my typical hubby never asks for directions!) and I have a

hypoglycemic episode, they are good to bring my blood sugar back up.

The diet soft drinks may be a problem too. I learned early on that if I

have aspartame, I get food cravings and my weight goes up (water retention),

stop aspartame the cravings go away and the weight drops. Splenda

(sucralose - the only " ose " that's good for low carb) is a way better

choice, and if you live in the states you are fortunate to have quite a few

soft drinks sweetened with Splenda. (Here in Canada they are few and far

between - and Splenda is made in Canada!! LOL). Caffiene has also been

known to raise insulin levels and hinder weight loss (Doctor A addresses

this in his book), so that could be a factor in the diet Coke. Pop also has

alot of citric acid which some people are known to be sensitive to.

So make sure you keep drinking 8 - 10 (or more) glasses of water a day, and

stick to whole natural foods (fresh veggies, natural cheese (not processed

which usually has sugar and other bad stuff), eggs, real meats of all kinds

(no processed stuff as the nitrates and salt can cause water retention and

some processed meats have sugar in them)) for a while, until you are really

loosing weight and your system is detoxified. Then add back some of that

stuff (Atkins (or other low carb) Bars, Diet Pop, processed meats, etc.) one

item at a time to see if you are sensitive to each or any of them.

And being is ketosis is like being pregnant, either you are or you aren't -

so even if the sticks show a trace amount or light to moderate, that means

you *are* in ketosis! You don't want the sticks to be really dark as that

usually means you are not drinking enough water.

Hope I haven't overloaded you with info, I have ADHD and usually talk (or

type) way too much!! And keep in mind this is just my opinion, take all,

some or none of it as needed. HTH

Keep Living La Vida Low Carb!

Crystal in Saskatoon, SK, Canada

Currently 174/147/132 Arrgghh!!!!

Prior to Wellbutrin - 174/132/132 42 pounds gone forever

Atkins since Jan. 12, 1998

Maintenance since May 1998

(My story and photos are at http://lowcarber.org/ in the " Stories "

section)

I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice, please!

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Im new here, I introduced myself in my last post.

>

> I've got a question-

>

> I had brilliant results with the 2 week induction, losing just about

> 12 pounds from 197 to 185/86.

>

> I have faithfully stuck to the diet, I've strayed once about 3 weeks

> ago at a wedding shower.

>

> This past week, I've not lost one single pound, and according to the

> Ketosticks, I am not in ketosis, the colors that have shown range

> from " negative " to " Small " What is oing on here? Here's a typical day:

>

> morning: an Atkins bar, or a 2 egg omelette with shred cheese and

> bacon, water

>

> Lunch- usually grilled chicked caesar, diet coke or dbl QP from

> Mcs, sans bun and fries, or an Atkins Bar

>

> Dinner- usually bacon cheeseburger, salmon,chicken,cheese, diet coke

>

> I drink a pretty good bit of water, and have not knowingly strayed

> from the alloted carbs. I did have a piece of bread (13g of carbs)

> with an egg.

>

> Can anyone give me any insight as to what is going on? Im getting

> really frustrated! I havent budged from 186 in 7 days!!!!

>

> Please respnd,

>

> T

June 21, 2001

I'm not looking to pick a fight - let me say that up front. But in the

United States, Mcs uses 100% pure USDA inspected beef, no additives,

no fillers, no extenders. I know two different people who are owners of

Mcs franchises (not that it matters) and the info is according to the

corporate website.

-Marlena in DC

214.5/169.0/150

>

>Reply-To: Atkins_Support_List

>To: <Atkins_Support_List >

>Subject: Re: I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice, please!

>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:47 -0500 (EST)

>[[[snip]]]

>Also, something that I noticed when I looked over her menu was that 1) she

>was eating Mc's beef which isn't 100% beef; it has fillers.

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June 21, 2001

> I'm not looking to pick a fight - let me say that up front. But in the

> United States, Mcs uses 100% pure USDA inspected beef, no additives,

> no fillers, no extenders. I know two different people who are owners of

> Mcs franchises (not that it matters) and the info is according to the

> corporate website.

> -Marlena in DC

> 214.5/169.0/150

Sorry, Marlena. I stand corrected. I had read somewhere that fillers

were used, and being the person that I am, I was certain I'd confirmed it

before I opened my mouth. Looks like I didn't though. Although I can't

seem to find information on their sight broken down by ingredient. (I

thought I'd found something like that previously, and I thought I'd seen

that the burgers had carbs, but apparently not.)

Thanks for setting me straight.

--

in Indy

(262.5)253.5/236/150

3/26/01

June 21, 2001

> I'm not looking to pick a fight - let me say that up front. But in the

> United States, Mcs uses 100% pure USDA inspected beef, no additives,

> no fillers, no extenders. I know two different people who are owners of

> Mcs franchises (not that it matters) and the info is according to the

> corporate website.

> -Marlena in DC

> 214.5/169.0/150

Sorry, Marlena. I stand corrected. I had read somewhere that fillers

were used, and being the person that I am, I was certain I'd confirmed it

before I opened my mouth. Looks like I didn't though. Although I can't

seem to find information on their sight broken down by ingredient. (I

thought I'd found something like that previously, and I thought I'd seen

that the burgers had carbs, but apparently not.)

Thanks for setting me straight.

--

in Indy

(262.5)253.5/236/150

3/26/01

June 21, 2001

> I'm not looking to pick a fight - let me say that up front. But in the

> United States, Mcs uses 100% pure USDA inspected beef, no additives,

> no fillers, no extenders. I know two different people who are owners of

> Mcs franchises (not that it matters) and the info is according to the

> corporate website.

> -Marlena in DC

> 214.5/169.0/150

Sorry, Marlena. I stand corrected. I had read somewhere that fillers

were used, and being the person that I am, I was certain I'd confirmed it

before I opened my mouth. Looks like I didn't though. Although I can't

seem to find information on their sight broken down by ingredient. (I

thought I'd found something like that previously, and I thought I'd seen

that the burgers had carbs, but apparently not.)

Thanks for setting me straight.

--

in Indy

(262.5)253.5/236/150

3/26/01

June 21, 2001

Actually, this is a popular belief. However, it is not true.

Mcs, Burger King, Jack in the Box, etc. etc. all use

100% beef. In the very early 80's Mcs did experiment

with some soy fill, but that was extremely short lived when

they discovered that the filler was more expensive than just

plain ole ground beef.

A.

>>

>>Reply-To: Atkins_Support_List

>>To: <Atkins_Support_List >

>>Subject: Re: I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice,

please!

>>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:47 -0500 (EST)

>>[[[snip]]]

>>Also, something that I noticed when I looked over her menu

was that 1) she

>>was eating Mc's beef which isn't 100% beef; it has

fillers.

June 21, 2001

Actually, this is a popular belief. However, it is not true.

Mcs, Burger King, Jack in the Box, etc. etc. all use

100% beef. In the very early 80's Mcs did experiment

with some soy fill, but that was extremely short lived when

they discovered that the filler was more expensive than just

plain ole ground beef.

A.

>>

>>Reply-To: Atkins_Support_List

>>To: <Atkins_Support_List >

>>Subject: Re: I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice,

please!

>>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:47 -0500 (EST)

>>[[[snip]]]

>>Also, something that I noticed when I looked over her menu

was that 1) she

>>was eating Mc's beef which isn't 100% beef; it has

fillers.

June 21, 2001

Actually, this is a popular belief. However, it is not true.

Mcs, Burger King, Jack in the Box, etc. etc. all use

100% beef. In the very early 80's Mcs did experiment

with some soy fill, but that was extremely short lived when

they discovered that the filler was more expensive than just

plain ole ground beef.

A.

>>

>>Reply-To: Atkins_Support_List

>>To: <Atkins_Support_List >

>>Subject: Re: I'M stuck!!! Really need some advice,

please!

>>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:44:47 -0500 (EST)

>>[[[snip]]]

>>Also, something that I noticed when I looked over her menu

was that 1) she

>>was eating Mc's beef which isn't 100% beef; it has

fillers.

June 21, 2001

> The diet soft drinks may be a problem too. I learned early on that if I

> have aspartame, I get food cravings and my weight goes up (water retention),

> stop aspartame the cravings go away and the weight drops. Splenda

> (sucralose - the only " ose " that's good for low carb) is a way better

> choice, and if you live in the states you are fortunate to have quite a few

> soft drinks sweetened with Splenda. (Here in Canada they are few and far

> between - and Splenda is made in Canada!! LOL). Caffiene has also been

> known to raise insulin levels and hinder weight loss (Doctor A addresses

> this in his book), so that could be a factor in the diet Coke. Pop also has

> alot of citric acid which some people are known to be sensitive to.

Did you guys know that that carbonated beverage itself causes water

retention? If you were to drink just plain old seltzer water, you'd still

likely retain b/c of the reaction that happens inside your body with the

carbonic acid.

As has been stated before, your best bet is to drink WATER. If you HAVE

to have some diet pop, try and get in all your water FIRST. Then, once

you decide to have some pop, make sure that you drink an equal amount of

water to help offset the effects of all the things in the pop that could

cause water retention. (I needed to take my own advice yesterday, but

I've been sick and the cold, fizzy rootbeer felt REALLY good on my sore

throat.)

--

in Indy

(262.5)253.5/236/150

3/26/01

June 21, 2001